Unrealistic expectations about our defense this season!

chiefsfan1963 · 12-22-2005, 02:40 PM

If we had added quality players to our roster 2 years ago instead of waiting until this season to add talent to this D we would most likely have broken into the Top 20 ranking and be a playoff team in 2005.

All blame goes to the Front Office and CP!!!!!!!!

I believe we can break into that Top 20 list and actually improve in our O ranking as well and be right in the hunt to making the playoffs and ultimately the SB in 2006!

Our D will get better with a year under their belt playing together and our offseason can bring more quality players to our O and D via the draft and free agency.

This can be all done with DV at the helm IMO.

I hope he decides to stay and not buckle to the pressure of fans and critics who know really nothing about the inner workings of Pro Football and don't realize how lucky they are and how close they are to SB Championship!

This team does not have to rebuild far from it! Patience and keeping a cool head is what really is needed!

**ptlyon** · 12-22-2005, 02:41 PM

Where do you come up with this shit?

Brock · 12-22-2005, 02:42 PM

How dare we expect competence!

Calcountry · 12-22-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Where do you come up with this shit?

From the Orange Mane.

Deberg_1990 · 12-22-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

This team does not have to rebuild far from it! Patience and keeping a cool head is what really is needed!

Honestly, we are now into year 16 of the "5 Year Plan" I think time for being patient is over.

chiefsfan1963 · 12-22-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Honestly, we are now into year 16 of the "5 Year Plan" I think time for being patient is over.

DV has been here 5 years, CP 16 years. I would have no problem showing CP the door. I would like DV to play out his hand. Thanks for your comments.

Mr. Laz · 12-22-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

All blame goes to the Front Office and CP!!!!!!!!

i detest Carl Peterson and even i disagree with that.

yes, we shouldn't of stood pat a few years ago ... yes that hurt us bad.

but the lack of focus,toughness and general bad fundamental of this team point directly to coaching not personnel.

not knowing how to manage a game isn't Carl's fault ... not knowing when to take a freakin' timeout isn't car's fault.

Vermeil gets his fair share of the blame for the problems with this team.

chiefsfan1963 · 12-22-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i detest Carl Peterson and even i disagree with that.

yes, we shouldn't of stood pat a few years ago ... yes that hurt us bad.

but the lack of focus,toughness and general bad fundamental of this team point directly to coaching not personnel.

not knowing how to manage a game isn't Carl's fault ... not knowing when to take a freakin' timeout isn't car's fault.

Vermeil gets his fair share of the blame for the problems with this team.

DV has done far more good than bad for this team and he has accomplished a lot in a short 5 years! CP has been given plenty of chances and time to make it happen and his departure is well overdue.

DV deserves another year at least IMO!

Don't hang all your frustration on DV for having to wait 35 years to reach the SB.

Mr. Laz · 12-22-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

DV has done far more good than bad for this team and he has accomplished a lot in a short 5 years! CP has been given plenty of chances and time to make it happen and his departure is well overdue.

DV deserves another year at least IMO!

Don't hang all your frustration on DV for having to wait 35 years to reach the SB.

more good than bad ... maybe, but nothing makes up for the lack of fundamentals.

there is nothing short about 5 years in the NFL

DV has earned some of that frustration

chiefsfan1963 · 12-22-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

more good than bad ... maybe, but nothing makes up for the lack of fundamentals.

there is nothing short about 5 years in the NFL

DV has earned some of that frustration

Marty got 10 to get to the SB, I would like to give DV 6 or another year and offseason to put it altogether. The team was in shambles when DV got here. He turned it into an offensive powerhouse in less than 2. I just believe he deserves more time. If he decides to leave on his own accord then fine, but if wants to stay and make it happen I say let him.

Brock · 12-22-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

Marty got 10 to get to the SB, I would like to give DV 6 or another year and offseason to put it altogether.

Yeah, let's compound one mistake with another.

siberian khatru · 12-22-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

DV has done far more good than bad for this team and he has accomplished a lot in a short 5 years! CP has been given plenty of chances and time to make it happen and his departure is well overdue.

DV deserves another year at least IMO!

Don't hang all your frustration on DV for having to wait 35 years to reach the SB.

What has DV accomplished? Gaudy offensive stats? What does that earn you in the NFL? And if he gets credit for that, why doesn't he, as head coach, also get the blame for carrying a shit defense during that same time?

The guy's had one winning season in four years; we win one game in the next two weeks, he can make it 2 in 5. Whoopee.

Every coach who's won a Super Bowl in the last 30 or so years has done so within his first five years with a team. Five years is plenty of time to get it done. And DV hasn't even won a playoff game. He's only BEEN to one playoff game.

DV doesn't deserve SHIT.

el borracho · 12-22-2005, 03:14 PM

The base of the problems are talent evaluation. The fact that opposing teams are running through defenders on the way to the endzone indicates that there are defenders in position to make the play. Sadly, those defenders are not playmakers. What the Chiefs really need is to hire someone who can evaluate talent. Until then, we will just continue to draft and sign free-agent losers.

chiefsfan1963 · 12-22-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

What has DV accomplished? Gaudy offensive stats? What does that earn you in the NFL? And if he gets credit for that, why doesn't he, as head coach, also get the blame for carrying a shit defense during that same time?

The guy's had one winning season in four years; we win one game in the next two weeks, he can make it 2 in 5. Whoopee.

Every coach who's won a Super Bowl in the last 30 or so years has done so within his first five years with a team. Five years is plenty of time to get it done. And DV hasn't even won a playoff game. He's only BEEN to one playoff game.

DV doesn't deserve SHIT.

all I can say to your comments is that they are petty.

Redcoats58 · 12-22-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

all I can say to your comments is that they are petty.

All I can say about his comment is "Amen"!

12-22-2005, 02:40 PM	Topic Starter
chiefsfan1963 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2001 Casino cash: $10005060	Unrealistic expectations about our defense this season! If we had added quality players to our roster 2 years ago instead of waiting until this season to add talent to this D we would most likely have broken into the Top 20 ranking and be a playoff team in 2005. All blame goes to the Front Office and CP!!!!!!!! I believe we can break into that Top 20 list and actually improve in our O ranking as well and be right in the hunt to making the playoffs and ultimately the SB in 2006! Our D will get better with a year under their belt playing together and our offseason can bring more quality players to our O and D via the draft and free agency. This can be all done with DV at the helm IMO. I hope he decides to stay and not buckle to the pressure of fans and critics who know really nothing about the inner workings of Pro Football and don't realize how lucky they are and how close they are to SB Championship! This team does not have to rebuild far from it! Patience and keeping a cool head is what really is needed!
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el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6229148	The base of the problems are talent evaluation. The fact that opposing teams are running through defenders on the way to the endzone indicates that there are defenders in position to make the play. Sadly, those defenders are not playmakers. What the Chiefs really need is to hire someone who can evaluate talent. Until then, we will just continue to draft and sign free-agent losers.
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