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04-21-2005, 09:32 AM | Topic Starter | |
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How have the Raiders done in their pre-draft dealings?
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04-21-2005, 09:34 AM | #2 |
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Having Randy Moss on your team isn't always a plus. I think I would have just stayed at the 7 spot.
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I'm pretty ambivalent about what they've done, I guess. |
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I guess they got a 2nd from the texans for buchanon wwhich they traded to the jets for the first (along with jolley) which is why the 2nd was left completely off?
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I'd say you did pretty good, if you ignore what your team needs were going into the off-season.
A team that is so bad on the defensive side of the ball, not only getting rid of defensive talent, but being aggressive in aquiring offensive talent. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for the Raiders.
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If you break the trade down based on the draft value chart stuck at the top of the Lounge, you see that Oakland gave up picks valued at 1519.2 and received picks valued at 901.4. The difference is 617.2 which is somewhere between the 30th (620) and 31st (610) picks overall. So speaking in terms of draft value, the trade can be boiled down to: received: Randy Moss dealt: Philip Buchanon Napoleon Harris Doug Jolley pick 1.30 Here is a breakdown of the draft values for the actual picks involved in the trade: Code:
received: pick 1.26 700 pick 3.14 (78 overall) 200 pick 7.26 (240 overall) 1.4 ------ Total 901.4 dealt: pick 1.07 1500 pick 7.05 (219 overall) 4.8 pick 6.38 (212 overall) 7.6 pick 6.40 (214 overall) 6.8 ------ Total 1519.2
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1st - 1300 (est) 3rd - 200 (est)
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BTW, do you have a good source for estimating the value of future draft picks?
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ie 1st round pick from next year is worth the value of a 2nd round pick this year. although i think that's a little extreme to me ... because the pick's value will appreciate over time and become worth the same amount.
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It'd make more sense had they gotten some defensive help. Instead they traded for an incredible WR with issues, and traded away a solid #2 CB, a LB and the 7th overall pick.
The Chiefs defense sucks ass to be sure, but the Faiders gave up more points and more rushing yards. One would think they'd have adressed those issues. Thankfully, they have not. MM ~~
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04-21-2005, 10:38 AM | #12 |
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I would have to say that they performed like Chief wanna be's.
Got some good O help, lignoredt the D.
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If cmh6476 is correct that there should be a second round pick for the in there, then it makes a difference. As it stands, it actually doesn't look like they made out very well overall, even with the Jolley ripoff trade.
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I don't like it. They got a malcontent who can't be counted on. Moss' upside is tremendous and they're likely to reap some of the rewards but he'll likely have a negative impact in the locker room. A negative impact on a team that already had/has locker room chemistry problems.
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i think they did a great job of doing the trades... they seemed to have gotten the better of each trade by a significant margin.
as for the team they are assembling and addressing specific team needs.... they haven't done very well at all. For each step forward they have taken a step backwards.
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