Chiefs Andy Reid on Metro Sports...

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

You're looking for reasons to NOT believe just as much as people who are looking for reasons to believe.

Bullshit

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Reid saying that they might stay or might not stay where they are means nothing. It's just coach speak that we here from every coach/GM every year.

Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

His description of what he wants in a QB doesn't necessarily mean Geno, but it does imply that these "leftover" QB's isn't what Reid is after. Imo, his description of what he's after in a QB is more telling than "i might or might not move back"

You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

**DeezNutz** · 02-08-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

**DeezNutz** · 02-08-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

He's not discounting the importance of footwork, etc., at all, IMO. He's simply "making it short and sweet" in his response.

There are obviously a hell of a lot of specific details that allow a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

He's not discounting the importance of footwork, etc., at all, IMO. He's simply "making it short and sweet" in his response.

There are obviously a hell of a lot of specific details that allow a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.

ModSocks · 02-08-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.

Right, now does that describe the F/A Qb class?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Right, now does that describe the F/A Qb class?

Who said anything about free agency? Not me. Not Dave Stewart. Not Andy Reid.

Who?

**DeezNutz** · 02-08-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.

I see where you're coming from now. And, yeah, this seems entirely plausible to me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-08-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I see where you're coming from now. And, yeah, this seems entirely plausible to me.

It's plausible, but I still don't know what exactly it means.

Does it mean that guys like Philip Rivers and Bernie Kosar, two "winning" QB's with "weird" deliveries would pass the test? That he's not worried about "correctable" things like footwork and delivery, as long as the guy is a leader that can will his team to victory?

If that's the case, and I'm not stating that it is, because he wasn't specific enough to state unequivocally, that would seem to open the door to many QB's in the upcoming draft.

The Combines can't get here soon enough for me.

Molitoth · 02-08-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

Sounds like Geno Smith to me.

crazycoffey · 02-08-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

so now we're getting tebow? FML

crazycoffey · 02-08-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

yeah, bolded part. Listened to a couple more times and it really sounds like he was starting to say hand size, not the hands. Not that it's really a big difference, but..... not saying it's the aliens, but it's the aliens.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-08-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

And if THAT doesnt SCREEEAM "give me Smith YESTERDAY"...then nothing in this ****ing world ever will.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 02-09-2013, 12:01 AM

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And if THAT doesnt SCREEEAM "give me Smith YESTERDAY"...then nothing in this ****ing world ever will.
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All I personally know of Smith is the K-State game and the Pinstripe Bowl. He was less than impressive in both.

I've read more negatives about him than positives, outside of this site, of course.

The biggest knock is that he's a crybaby. True or not, that's a stigma he's carrying among scouts and agents.

KCrockaholic · 02-09-2013, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I personally know of Smith is the K-State game and the Pinstripe Bowl. He was less than impressive in both.

I've read more negatives about him than positives, outside of this site, of course.

The biggest knock is that he's a crybaby. True or not, that's a stigma he's carrying among scouts and agents.

He really wasn't that bad in the Pinstripe bowl considering Nassib completed like 11 of 23 for 130 in that game. It was a tundra during that one, and if you check the game throw by throw he did fine. He stayed within the system which is what he's asked to do. K-state was his rough "bad" game. But he was down 31 to 7 by the 2nd Q. Hard to look good at that point. K state out coached Holgorsen. And I HATE the Holgorsen spread by the way. It's a bad gimmicky offensive system for today's game IMO.

Oh. And I used to think he was a "crybaby" also a few months ago. Then I actually took the time to look into all of his interviews and dig into his personality. Even he admitted his body language was poor at times. But he's not a cry baby. Hopefully he can work on that body language though.