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Old 10-10-2012, 11:30 AM   #1
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I'd give a shit about his doping if he was in a minority of riders who doped. Take away his victories, fine. Who are you going to give them to? The other top riders that weren't as good as him but doped just as much?
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:07 PM   #2
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I'd give a shit about his doping if he was in a minority of riders who doped. Take away his victories, fine. Who are you going to give them to? The other top riders that weren't as good as him but doped just as much?
Exactly. Everyone in professional cycling dopes to some degree or another. Anyone who knows anything about cycling is aware of this. It's not even a well kept secret, dirty little secret, or any kind of secret. It's just a known part of the sport.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:03 PM   #3
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I'd give a shit about his doping if he was in a minority of riders who doped. Take away his victories, fine. Who are you going to give them to? The other top riders that weren't as good as him but doped just as much?
Not sure if anyone is getting those titles, most of the riders who finished behind him are now known to have cheated. If the sport was clean, he probably would have been one of the greatest cyclists in the world. Maybe not 7 titles, the US team had a better doping program than the competition, but everyone was cheating so it was kinda sorta a level playing field.

The titles still have to be stripped obviously, but Armstrong is mostly being condemned and criticized for defiantly continuing his lie to the grave. He would have been forgiven long ago had he just explained that they really had no choice, they could either cheat or finish well behind all the other cheaters.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:03 PM   #4
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The titles still have to be stripped obviously, but Armstrong is mostly being condemned and criticized for defiantly continuing his lie to the grave. He would have been forgiven long ago had he just explained that they really had no choice, they could either cheat or finish well behind all the other cheaters.
That route didn't work so well for Ben Johnson. He's still very much a black sheep. And can you imagine if Barry Bonds ever said anything like that even if it's true?
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