Super Bowl Coaches who didn't deserve credit?

[Nickhead]

There are a lot of coaches that get fired, quit, or are traded. Then are replaced with someone else. Low and behold, the new coach finds himself in the Super Bowl. Two year window, Win or Lose, what coaches could you say, simply rode the coat tails of the previous regime to stardome? We all know Jimmy Johnson has three super bowl rings, and Switzer has none. Does Tomlin replacing Cower count? Gary Kubiak? What are your opinions on coaches that get more credit than they deserve.

No other coach that I can think of has enjoyed a reputation built on such a flimsy foundation as Jon Gruden. Yes, he helped bring the Oakland Raiders back to respectability after a decade lost in the wilds. But in Oakland, he was never the big game coach the team needed, putting together a mediocre 2-2 playoff record. However, he made his bones by winning the Super Bowl following the 2002 season – a game in which he vanquished his former team, the Raiders. Of course, Gruden had a few things working in his favor – first, he inherited a stocked and loaded Tampa Bay Buccaneers team from Tony Dungy. Make no mistake, it was Dungy’s team that won that Super Bowl. Secondly, Gruden faced his former assistant, Bill Callahan, in that fateful title game. And Callahan, who was most assuredly not a good coach, didn’t change a thing from the plays Gruden ran, to the terminology used, to the signals the team used on the field. It’s a lot easier to win a big game and make it look easy when you know exactly what play is coming at you at any given time. Following that Super Bowl win, after Gruden was allowed to put his own stamp on the team, Tampa Bay enjoyed far less success. Despite that fact though, Gruden continues to be one of the most sought after coaches in the NFL.

http://www.thesportster.com/football...s-of-all-time/

[New World Order]

Billick, Kubiak, and Switzer are the biggest 3 that come to my mind.

[Nickhead]

I debated Billick, but couldn't recall the previous coach.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

I debated Billick, but couldn't recall the previous coach.

Billick was an offensive minded coach who rode an elite defense and special teams (coached by Marvin Lewis) to a Superbowl title. That defense allowed these point totals in the postseason:

Denver: 3
Tennessee: 10
Oakland: 3
NYG: 0

The fewest points the Ravens offense scored all postseason was 16. Kubiak situation. The former coach had no credit, it's just that Billick offense did not lead to the title, the defense did.

[TimeForWasp]

Gruden


Sorry, posted this before reading anything.

[jjchieffan]

Definitely Switzer, Gruden and Kubiak. Especially Kubiak. The league is the only one deserving credit for the fixed Superfarce to send Fivehead out with a title.

[Dayze]

Kubiak, Billick, and Switzer.
Maybe Seifert?

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Kubiak, Billick, and Switzer.
Maybe Seifert?

i think seifert was the grand daddy of em all.. post 1985 that is.

[RunKC]

Dungy

[rico]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dungy

This... and to think he is in the HOF. Blech.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by rico

This... and to think he is in the HOF. Blech.

I'm not a huge fan of Dungy or anything, but can you name five better coaches over the last, say, 20 years?

Let's face it, he had continued success with two separate organizations over a pretty long period of time. Sure, you can point to Peyton, but I look forward to the coaches you naming not having a Brees, Brady, Rogers, or whoever as QB.

I think after Belichick, over the last 20 years there are a number of guys who don't really scream out GREAT in any meaningful way. McCarthy and Payton (and perhaps Tomlin), and of course Dungy have the "you haven't done well enough with the great QB you've had", while other guys have either been too inconsistent (Coughlin) or can't seem to do anything in the playoffs (Marv Lewis). I think very highly of the Ravens' Harbaugh, but his trajectory has faltered a bit in the post Lewis/Reed era. I think he'll recover, but we'll see. Ozzie Newsome's drafts lately are also partly responsible for the dropoff there.

I remember the 80s, with Shula, Landry, Parcells, Walsh, Gibbs and a handful of others, and wonder why there don't seem to be many great coaches now. Then again, Shula went to 2 SBs and lost both in the last, like 20 years of his coaching career, despite having Marino. You could look at him and be like "look it's Tony Dungy".

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by rico

This... and to think he is in the HOF. Blech.

Right next to Olandis Gary or whoever that Broncos running back is.

[Amnorix]

Switzer is the biggest one, I think. He inherited a ridiculously stacked team and could only squeeze one SB out of it. I think of all the coaches he contributed the least.

I sorta, kinda disagree on Gruden. I think he got amazingly LUCKY to win that SB, in that he inherited a great team and then got to go up against his old Raiders, etc., etc., BUT is anyone 100% sure that Dungy wins that SB if he stays? I'm not. Not the way I am that just about ANY NFL HC could've won at least one SB with that Cowboys team that Jimmy Johnson built.

Billick and Kubiak -- meh. I don't think they're really overrated. Does anyone think they're geniuses? Nah.

[In58men]

Billichek is is a mastermind. Lot of hate from jealous people here. When they were down 28-3 he was seen on the sidelines taking note after note. He's a brilliant coach.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

Billichek is is a mastermind. Lot of hate from jealous people here. When they were down 28-3 he was seen on the sidelines taking note after note. He's a brilliant coach.

No one said anything about Belichick in this thread.