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Old 01-13-2013, 07:36 PM   #1
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I'm the type of guy who uses the eye test more than stats...I make my own opinions based off of what I see.

I saw Luck make one of the worst passes I've ever seen in my life against the Chiefs overthrowing a wide open player in the end zone.

I think Luck will be great. I think this year he was average.

RUSSEL WILSON was off the charts good after about the first 1.5 months of the season. He played like the best QB in the NFL the past two months. Just sensational. He has no weaknesses, being short effects him in no way, and he can do EVERYTHING. His ability to extend the play and make big plays is second to none.

He's OMG good.

Kaepernick is another guy I was real high on, and he at least made me 50/50 yesterday when I picked the 49ers based off their pass rush and the fact I thought Kaepernick was VASTLY underrated.

Well he's underrated no longer.

But yeah, these are your new NFL QB's. Luck will be successful and elite but he's a dying breed. These new "hybrid" QB's are going to take over and take over fast.

AND I WANT ONE OF MY OWN
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:49 PM   #2
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But yeah, these are your new NFL QB's. Luck will be successful and elite but he's a dying breed. These new "hybrid" QB's are going to take over and take over fast.
A big, excellent pocket passer will never go out of style... when you make great decisions and can take a beating, you're ALWAYS going to win plenty.

Luck ended the year with 54%, a stat that will surely climb, but he made great decisions and was always able to stay in the game, and you could ALWAYS tell his team had faith in him, as evidenced by their play.

The new breed like Wilson, Kaepernick, 3... absolutely, they are thrilling players in every sense of the word, but at some point even the most durable of them (wilson, kaep imo) will have to scale back the running and focus on the passing much more, thats flashy, high risk scheming will sooner or later sideline them way too much to hold their jobs.

Running ability for a quarterback is nothing more than the gravy on top of your pocket passing meat and potatoes.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:37 PM   #3
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I also think Wilson has dashing good looks, I love the fact he was a baseball player, and he is a great interview.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:43 PM   #4
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I also think Wilson has dashing good looks, .

Wait, what?
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:46 PM   #5
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Wait, what?
I loved his interview where he ended it with "Go Hawks."

He sounded like a true professional, intelligent guy and yes...a good looking man. Great muscle definition, everything.

The dude is a man's man, and he can play the shit out of QB to boot!

I just traded Colin Kaepernick (17th round value) for Russel Wilson (5th round value) in my dynasty league (along with swapping 1st round picks, I get the #1 overall, guy gets the #8 overall). You lose the round your keeper was picked in in the draft so I'll lose a 5 and he'll lose a 17 which is why we swapped 1sts.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:52 PM   #6
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I also think Wilson has dashing good looks, I love the fact he was a baseball player, and he is a great interview.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:38 PM   #7
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I take everything back I Said about him after our preseason game. I called him a "preseason hero" and 99 times out of 100 that's usually the case for rookies. Major props to him for his season and hopefully it's a long career. He's a true talent.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:40 PM   #8
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Dare we say

Russel Wilson is maybe even better than RG3

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He'll probably have a longer career anyway.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:44 PM   #9
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I still really like RGIII but he's nowhere close to as far as long in the QB developmental process as Russel Wilson.

That dude, oh man...the performance he put on today was LEGENDARY. The poise, everything.

I'd trade our #1 pick and 3 future 1sts for that kid IN A SECOND.

How did he get passed on so many times? This doesn't even compare to a Tom Brady. Brady sat for a whole year and didn't really develop superhuman QB abilities for a few years after that...even after his first Super Bowl he was still kind of a system QB.

Over the course of 1 season, Wilson developed into a SUPERSTAR. The dude is a throw first QB who can extend every play, escape from any situation, break off monster runs, display unbelievable accuracy..

and in his first ever postseason he put HIS team on HIS back and brought them back down 14 one time and almost from down 20 in ONE HALF another time...starting the 2nd half 10-10 for 185 yards and 2 TDs...

I mean.

****!

That's just unbelievable. Today he looked like GOD in a football uniform.

Why can't good things happen to us?
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:01 PM   #10
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How did he get passed on so many times?
It's has been discussed many times already, but the 1st few rounds of the draft especially the first round are all about measurables. It's because for the most part, most of the hits do fit into a certain measurable. It's all about playing the odds, but yes, every now and then a player will rise above his perceived ability. For every Wilson, Brady or Montana, there are about a thousand who fail.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:44 PM   #11
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:49 PM   #12
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like I said, I'm omitting Brady and Manning from all future lists, but here are my 2013 QB power rankings in terms of who I'd want running my team for ONE season.

1. Russel Wilson
2. Aaron Rodgers
GAP
3. Colin Kaepernick
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4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. Eli Manning
7. RGIII
8. Matt Ryan
9. Cam Newton
10. GSIII (of course!!!)
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:53 PM   #13
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like I said, I'm omitting Brady and Manning from all future lists, but here are my 2013 QB power rankings in terms of who I'd want running my team for ONE season.

1. Russel Wilson
2. Aaron Rodgers
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3. Colin Kaepernick
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4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. Eli Manning
7. RGIII
8. Matt Ryan
9. Cam Newton
10. GSIII (of course!!!)
How big is the gap between aaron rodgers and Kaepernick? Going into last night, I'd say a huge one. But Kaepernick looked really good, and he has the best quarterback mind coaching him. He's going to be really, really good.
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Most would agree that Harbaugh coached up Alex Smith.
Most would also agree that Kaepernick has a higher ceiling than Alex Smith.
So I think it's logical to think that with Kaepernick's athletic ability and ceiling as a pocket passer (with Harbaugh's help, of course), the guy can be much better. That's scary considering how good he was last night.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:01 PM   #15
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How big is the gap between aaron rodgers and Kaepernick? Going into last night, I'd say a huge one. But Kaepernick looked really good, and he has the best quarterback mind coaching him. He's going to be really, really good.
I'm not the guy who thinks you need a body of work to be considered the current best. I said the Packers Super Bowl year and the next year Rodgers was the most talented QB I had ever seen in my entire life.

I think I'm still taking Rodgers by a considerable margin because he is more traditional and makes passes that no one in the world can make.

I think he needs to work on taking less sacks. I don't think that is on his offensive line, I think it is on him. People always talk about Cutler having a terrible line in Chicago but I disagree. I think a QB can make a line look a whole lot better, or worse (like Cutler) than it really is.

If Kaepernick QB'd the Packers last night and Rodgers the 49ers, I still would have picked the 49ers to win. I thought the defense the 49ers have (FAST) presented a HUGE matchup problem for Rodgers.

I think Rodgers is on an elite level and he can carry a team to a championship with little help. I'm not sure I'm ready to elevate Kaepernick there yet BUT he's really, really close.

I mean, you can't defend a guy who is accurate with the deep ball, can throw it a mile and 100 MPH, and can run like Cam freaking Newton...and generally has made the smart decision 9 times out of 10. (and has a QB friendly head coach to help along the way)
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