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Old 09-28-2010, 09:01 PM  
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Its a Shame (Royals)

I know none of us care anymore about the Royals, especially with the Chiefs at 3-0 but this has bothered me for a while so I thought I would put it out there. I go to 10-15 Royals games a year and around half of the Chiefs game, love and support both best i can.

What gets me about the Royals is that Kansas City supports teams much better than half of the cities that have MLB, but we HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING to root for. I mean we have been so bad for so long that its almost an enigma that we haven't have one year that we have won our division in the last 15 plus years.

Here is the real beef, look at teams like Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Florida Marlines, Oakland A's, Toronto Blue jays, Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee, San Diego etc. All teams that we would support so much better if we just had something. I mean besides Pittsburg, we have absolutely been the bottom feeder in MLB. I mean imagine if we had Tampa's Team here, it would be crazy, we would sell twice the tickets that Tampa does.

ahhhh, anyway just thoughts...
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:05 PM   #31
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Dude, I totally believe you. I have no doubt that we probably have the best prospects in all of baseball. The problem here is, (as you know) putting it together all at once and winning so they generate enough revenue to keep these guys. It's the same old story. We have good players that trickle in a few at a time and tear it up but by the time we call up enough to win, the existing ones are already traded away.Posted via Mobile Device
That is actually not the case this time. We really do have a ton of great prospects who are scheduled to come together at about the same time. A lot of great prospects need to inexplicably bust for the Royals to not become at least an above-average team in 2-3 years.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:06 PM   #32
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Greinke still thinks we are going to suck despite our prospects coming up. He is loco, but I think he's probably right..I mean we are cursed.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:09 PM   #33
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Greinke still thinks we are going to suck despite our prospects coming up. He is loco, but I think he's probably right..I mean we are cursed.
He's not really saying that, and he's arguably not wrong. He's saying that by the time we are ready to compete, it could be as late as 2013-2014, which we might be perfectly fine looking forward to, but hard for him to commit to.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:11 PM   #34
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He's not really saying that, and he's arguably not wrong. He's saying that by the time we are ready to compete, it could be as late as 2013-2014, which we might be perfectly fine looking forward to, but hard for him to commit to.
Can anybody tell me why teams just don't go out and buy 5 huge to good free agent pitchers that have proven themselves? Just completely blow your wad on starting pitching...and let the chips fall where they may on the rest of your needs. The Royals are .002 away from being the #1 team in the MLB in batting average and look what it got them. They are dead last in pitching (as usual) and we suck again.

Honestly, if I was a GM, I'd just spent 90% of the budget on pitching. Then bring the AAA team up to bat...I mean how much worse could it be.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:13 PM   #35
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:22 PM   #36
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I wonder what we can get for Greinke? I wonder if his value is the same as it was after last year ended? He has said some negative things lately and he checked out a long time ago. This season was not close to what i thought he'd do (atleast low 3 era)
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:30 AM   #37
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Can anybody tell me why teams just don't go out and buy 5 huge to good free agent pitchers that have proven themselves? Just completely blow your wad on starting pitching...and let the chips fall where they may on the rest of your needs. The Royals are .002 away from being the #1 team in the MLB in batting average and look what it got them. They are dead last in pitching (as usual) and we suck again.

Honestly, if I was a GM, I'd just spent 90% of the budget on pitching. Then bring the AAA team up to bat...I mean how much worse could it be.
This is a statistic that means absolutely nothing, however. If we were nearly #1 in OBP or OPS, this season would have been dramatically different. Batting average, while nice and all, means jack shit.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:19 AM   #38
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:34 AM   #39
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For those of you that are keeping tabs of the farm system...what are some player names that you feel represent the future of the Royals?
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For those of you that are keeping tabs of the farm system...what are some player names that you feel represent the future of the Royals?
Moosetacos should be up in '11, but Hosmer and Montgomery are arguably the two most talented prospects.
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Until the Glass family starts running the team like they care, KC will be nothing more than a Minor League team being a doormat for the AL and the laughingstock of MLB
MLB is broken. It doesn't matter one iota who owns the Royals, unless it's someone who's got a $100 million a year to lose - good luck finding someone willing to do that. People need to accept that the Royals will NEVER contend for a World Series in our lifetimes, unless the power-owners and MLB Union decide it's a game and not a business.

You can't expect a team in a market that can't make sense of supporting a payroll comparable to the top teams, to do so. Money doesn't grow on trees, yes, even for David Glass.

It's incredible how few people see through the reality of the sham that is MLB and continue to hold onto hope that the Royals might catch lightning in a bottle and beat teams stacked with the top talent, year in and year out. Even if we happen to win the hapless AL Central Division, we stand virtually no chance of going deep into the playoffs, much less knock off the Yankees, Sox etc. in a Series.

MLB is simply a joke, and people paying for tickets to the Royals and/or investing their emotions into the team are simply supporting its future in its current, pathetic state.

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I was telling my girl how the Yankees vs Royals was a big thing in the late 70's and 80's, now it doesn't mean shit
Theres a whole lost generation out there under 30 who have known nothing but Royals ineptitude....shameful.
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Moosetacos should be up in '11, but Hosmer and Montgomery are arguably the two most talented prospects.
The thing about the Royals' top five is that they are all arguable as the top prospect. For me, Wil Myers is the top prospect.

Basically, Archie, the elite prospects go like this:

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1B Eric Hosmer (destroyed high A before moving to AA at midseason, crushed AA on route to winning the Texas League championship)
C Wil Myers (super young, toolsy, best all around bat. This kid, whether he stays at Catcher or moves to the OF, has STAR written all over him)
3B Mike Moustakas (gave AA the ass-raping of its life before moving to AAA. After adjusting to AAA pitching, he ended up doing very well there. Led the entire major leagues in HR).

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Mike Montgomery (He's the shit. A bit of elbow stiffness held his playing time back this year, but when pitching he was pretty much overmatching the AA level).
John Lamb (made high A batters look foolish. This dude is absolutely filthy. Struggled through some minor roadblocks at AA but adjusted well enough)
Danny Duffy (a complete starting package.)
Chris Dwyer (him too. Also, all 4 pitchers I mentioned are Left Handed. Interesting).

There are plenty of guys underneath them that are major league players, too.
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Dude, I totally believe you. I have no doubt that we probably have the best prospects in all of baseball. The problem here is, (as you know) putting it together all at once and winning so they generate enough revenue to keep these guys. It's the same old story. We have good players that trickle in a few at a time and tear it up but by the time we call up enough to win, the existing ones are already traded away.

I truly hope that you're right and they put it together quicky enough to do something. Unfortunately, history usually repeats itself with this club all too often.
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