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Old 10-09-2012, 06:31 PM   #1
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And? Luck is 5 games into his.

Dalton is a game manager who is slightly better than Cassel.
A game mananger who:

Leads the NFL in completions over 40 yards.

Is 12th in passing yards.

Is third in yards per attempt.

Is 7th in TD percentage.



You're a tard.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #2
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Dalton is a game manager who is slightly better than Cassel.
You are an idiot if you truly believe that.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:26 PM   #3
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And he's still awful against good teams.
As a rookie, he lost 24-17 to Pitt, 24-31 at Balt, 20-19 against Houston, and 24-16 against Balt.

Cassel couldn't have as close of games against the ****ing Bills.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:28 PM   #4
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Cassel couldn't have as close of games against the ****ing Bills.
2 years in a row, I might add.


Listen, I'm not saying that Dalton is Tom Brady. He is clearly, without a doubt an upgrade from Cassel and a better QB not even 2 full years in the NFL. If you don't agree that is fine but your opinion probably won't be valued here (which probably means little to nothing).
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:09 PM   #5
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a moment of honesty from Belichick?

“Some of the memories I have of Kevin, the one thing I’d say is the 2008 season is probably one that not many people realize what Kevin did for us that year. When Tom [Brady] got hurt in the opener against Kansas City, Matt Cassel came in as the quarterback but it wasn’t really Matt’s team. Ultimately Matt grew into the role of a great leader and quarterback that he was that season, but it didn’t really start that way. When Tom was out offensively, even as a team, we were kind of trying to find some leadership and some glue to hold the team together. That’s one of the many times – one of the many times – that we saw Kevin really come forward and be truly a leader of our football team in that season. He's the guy who kept the cohesion offensively, and ultimately Matt took over that role as a quarterback should. But Kevin was very instrumental in that.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:21 PM   #6
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The trade for Cassel? - not a problem, seemed like a great move at the time.

Signing Cassel to that ridiculous contract before he ever played a snap?

That right there was the problem. He went all in before seeing the ****ing flop with a shit hand he hadn't even looked at! It's the reason he let Orton leave, and huge part of the reason we never brought in any real competition at QB.

Besides, I'm look at the Chiefs roster and seeing that our stars and the core of the team all came from the Peterson/Edwards drafts. Pioli's drafts are looking pretty weak so far.

Then you look at the 2 coaches he's picked...

He's good at managing the cap and finding bargain role players, but he's clearly not the football guy he thinks he is.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:23 PM   #7
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The contract wasn't even a big problem for me. I would have gladly taken the cap hit if Pioli had admitted his mistake.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:27 PM   #8
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The contract wasn't even a big problem for me. I would have gladly taken the cap hit if Pioli had admitted his mistake.
... because of the contract he couldn't admit to the mistake. As long as he thought there was a chance Cassel could work out, he was going to stick with it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:29 PM   #9
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... because of the contract he couldn't admit to the mistake. As long as he thought there was a chance Cassel could work out, he was going to stick with it.
Eh. There are plenty who would have realized their mistake and ate the cap hit.

Honestly, it wasn't even as bad a hit as T-jack has been IIRC.
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Dalton is a young QB who is bad against good teams.

Cassel is an old QB who is bad against everyone.

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Old 10-09-2012, 06:30 PM   #11
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"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:07 PM   #12
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"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.

An intelligent post instead of spit-flying rants. Thanks.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:50 PM   #13
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"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.
I don't know if trying is enough. You can argue he tried with Cassel and failed. If he tries with Landry Jones in the upcoming draft for example, I don't think many people will find that acceptable...
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #14
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Additionally, Dalton played/plays in a much tougher division than Luck will ever play in during his lifetime, IMO.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:47 PM   #15
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Chiefs should have drafted Ryan Mallet.
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