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Old 07-27-2013, 09:04 AM   #1
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:09 AM   #2
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I am suuuuuuuuure he was never told about the clause.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:18 AM   #3
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I would imagine his agent should have told him about the contract more thoroughly.
I also would imagine that he will be told he should have read it before he signed the contract.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:23 AM   #4
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I would imagine his agent should have told him about the contract more thoroughly.
I also would imagine that he will be told he should have read it before he signed the contract.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:58 AM   #5
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I would imagine his agent should have told him about the contract more thoroughly.
I also would imagine that he will be told he should have read it before he signed the contract.
Brown is claiming that he was in frequent contact with his agent. He claims that the clause never really came up. Which I'm inclined to believe, because it really does genuinely seem like Brown flat out did not know about this. It will be interesting to see if Brown mentioned he was working out on his own and his agent said nothing.

It doesn't help that his agent is a contract lawyer. This is an unbelievable oversight on his part.

It's possible he told Brown about it. I'm inclined to believe that given he had money on the line too, he would have been forceful about it if he did and certainly wouldn't have ever let him work out on his own.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:22 AM   #6
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Brown is claiming that he was in frequent contact with his agent. He claims that the clause never really came up. Which I'm inclined to believe, because it really does genuinely seem like Brown flat out did not know about this. It will be interesting to see if Brown mentioned he was working out on his own and his agent said nothing.

It doesn't help that his agent is a contract lawyer. This is an unbelievable oversight on his part.

It's possible he told Brown about it. I'm inclined to believe that given he had money on the line too, he would have been forceful about it if he did and certainly wouldn't have ever let him work out on his own.
So he is admitting that he didn't read his contract. That is his fault. I can't blame him for firing his agent. I would feel like the agent cost me the money as well. But the bottom line does not change. It was Browns legal responsibility to know what was in the contract before he signed the contract. He did not do that so he has no one to blame past himself. He probably will not trust his next agent.
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So he is admitting that he didn't read his contract. That is his fault. I can't blame him for firing his agent. I would feel like the agent cost me the money as well. But the bottom line does not change. It was Browns legal responsibility to know what was in the contract before he signed the contract. He did not do that so he has no one to blame past himself. He probably will not trust his next agent.
If you pay an agent to represent you, and he's the one telling you that it's okay to workout somewhere else, that's advice and counsel. And it's pretty much malpractice because he gave counsel that he absolutely should have known was wrong. People act like we're talking about educated Harvard students who negotiate their contracts. They hire agents who are more than likely reading high level points about the salary. It's possible this clause was barely even communicated to him in the talking points.

That is especially worse if his agent had power of attorney.
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If you pay an agent to represent you, and he's the one telling you that it's okay to workout somewhere else, that's advice and counsel. And it's pretty much malpractice because he gave counsel that he absolutely should have known was wrong. People act like we're talking about educated Harvard students who negotiate their contracts. They hire agents who are more than likely reading high level points about the salary. It's possible this clause was barely even communicated to him in the talking points.

That is especially worse if his agent had power of attorney.
This agent has how many players that he is responsible for? If the player doesn't ask a direct question reguarding this where the agent would look up that information then it is not the agents fault.
I would imagine that it would be difficult to keep those contracts straight off the top of your head.
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tell me the details of your latest cell phone contract or rental car contract. or the last update for Microsoft Office.

there are some contracts you sign just because you have no choice so you just have to close your eyes and not worry about the fine print. I hate that but its true..
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tell me the details of your latest cell phone contract or rental car contract. or the last update for Microsoft Office.

there are some contracts you sign just because you have no choice so you just have to close your eyes and not worry about the fine print. I hate that but its true..
Someone offers me a couple million and you can rest assured I don't treat it like a rico post and go TLDR
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When it comes to millions of dollars, yes.


Don't forget that he is a CB, so he probably has the IQ of a doorstop. Reading is not required in his field of expertise.
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Don't forget that he is a CB, so he probably has the IQ of a doorstop. Reading is not required in his field of expertise.
I should point out that he went to the University of Texas, so he must be pretty bright unless things have changed since I went there.
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