All Star Snubs... - Page 3

Carlota69 · 07-01-2007, 01:26 PM

Which Snub disgusts you the most?

Mine is Orlando Cabrera--SS--LA Angels.

Not only is he not going to start the AS Game, but he may not even be there. His numbers at the plate are equal if not better than Jeters'.

OC--Avg...338 5 HR OBP .835 RBI 48
Jeter Avg...335 5 HR OBP .408 RBI 38

Fielding

OC --.998 4 errors (#1 in the league)

Jeter--.966 12 errors

I'm so irritated by the voting process and all these talking heads saying that Jeter should be the starter...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-01-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Yeah, I call shenanigans on that one.

Of course, that is the only place ON EARTH that he won't get booed.

I'm usually not the type to wish injury on anyone, but I'd laugh my ass off if he blew out his knee chasing down a gapper in the ASG.

Career over.

Hank's record safe.

Justice is served.

Coach · 07-01-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Yeah, I call shenanigans on that one.

Of course, that is the only place ON EARTH that he won't get booed.

Yeah. Barry was down by 120,000 and surpasses Soriano by 100,000. I say something really stinks.

Frazod · 07-01-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Yeah. Barry was down by 120,000 and surpasses Soriano by 100,000. I say something really stinks.

Apparently the officials from the $tealer$/Seahawks Super Bowl were in charge of tabulating the results.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-01-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Apparently the officials from the $tealer$/Seahawks Super Bowl were in charge of tabulating the results.

Damn, fraz....

Did you lose a shit-ton of money on that game or something?

I mean, its only been almost 18 months ago.....

Frazod · 07-01-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Damn, fraz....

Did you lose a shit-ton of money on that game or something?

I mean, its only been almost 18 months ago.....

Hey, bent is bent.

88TG88 · 07-01-2007, 05:40 PM

Didn't really catch the AL but the NL seems good. Underrated Saito made it in and Russ Martin should start. Not bad

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-01-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Hey, bent is bent.

Fair enough.

Frazod · 07-01-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Fair enough.

To answer your question, no, I didn't bet anything on that game. Nor do I have any great hatred of the $tealer$, or any great love for the Hags.

But that game was completely handed to the $tealer$ by the officials. And it stunk just as much as Roid Boy Bonds getting the start over Soriano stinks now.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 07-01-2007, 05:50 PM

I forgot... when did Barry Bonds test positive for steroids?

Heh.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-01-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beer me

I forgot... when did Barry Bonds test positive for steroids?

Heh.

Please tell me you're not one of "them"........

Dr. Johnny Fever · 07-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Please tell me you're not one of "them"........

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty... so sue me.

I do believe OJ did though.... and Barry probably did too.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-01-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beer me

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven guilty... so sue me.

I do believe OJ did though.... and Barry probably did too.

I'm the same, but to me, admitting it in front of a grand jury = guilty.

Sam Hall · 07-01-2007, 06:06 PM

i was hoping we might have a night where we wouldn't have to hear about that bonds guy.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 07-01-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm the same, but to me, admitting it in front of a grand jury = guilty.

Did Barry do that? I honestly didn't know if he did.

**alnorth** · 07-01-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I'm not saying that he is what he was at one time, or even that he's the best, but to say he's the worst is pretty out there.

Derek Jeter's complete ineptitude at the six is a pretty unanimous fact among the Saber nerds like myself. I explain Derek's being rewarded with the gold glove despite being among the worst for a couple reasons.

First, the gold glove is heavily influenced by offensive performance. Its not supposed to be, but lets not kid ourselves, a guy who can really rake the ball becomes a more popular star, high profile, hes looked at more often, and if he doesnt butcher his position, a good offensive player is given the benefit of the doubt. Throw in the whole "the leader of the Yankees" mystique, and its harder to stand in the way.

Second, when a ball *IS* hit at Jeter (except this year) he has been money, clean professional fielding, spectacular and pretty-looking, when he gets to the ball, he hasnt missed the throw very often till this year, and he's looked very good doing it with Athletic double plays.

The problem is, he's got feet of stone, he doesnt GET to many balls in order to show off his accurate arm. To a baseball fan, even a non-Yankee fan, already dazzled by the offense and the leadership, you want to believe hes a good defender, and when you see him play (again until recently), he looked really good.

However, if you have two shortstops, one guy is money (say 98%) but he only gets to about 3/4 of the balls he should get to, the other guy is a more mortal 96% on balls he gets to, but he gets to 85% of them, Jeter may look good, but he costs his team more runs than the 2nd more ordinary-looking shortstop, because range is very hard to see.

This is only changing with Jeter this year because his already-pathetic range has gotten even slower to the point where its now finally painfully obvious to even the casual fan that he just isnt getting to the ball. The stats have been seeing this for years, and the fans are finally seeing it this year.

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