Donks release Javon Walker - Page 2

Miles · 02-29-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't hear a whole lot of bitching about Shanahan.

There is plenty of it going on around Denver.

smittysbar · 02-29-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

I don't know, why don't we ask Carl Peterson what he thinks?

Mile High Mania · 02-29-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

When is Pat Bowlin and the fans going to start to hold Shanahan responsible for all his ****ups? Pretty much every decision he has made at least in FA sucks ass. His drafts haven't fared much better either.

Shanahan isn't hitting on 100% of his moves, but ... he has more successes than failures. And, he is more active than the average coach when it comes to changing things. Is it over the top sometimes? Possibly, but you can't say he is ever just "content".

I'm not going to fault him for taking a chance and failing...

The Plummer experiment was interesting, but you can't argue with the wins during that tenure. The revolving door at RB has been frustrating, but they've been successful more often than not.

The trade for Bailey worked... signing guys via FA like Lynch, Stokely and others have worked. There have been a fair share of failures as well during that time.

I look at the drafts and yes, there have been a number of misses. However, he's hit on several as well over the years.

The 2006 class is something that looks to be very nice.

Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
2006 - Denver Broncos
1	11	Jay Cutler	QB	Vanderbilt
2	61	Tony Scheffler	TE	Western Michigan
4	119	Brandon Marshall	WR	Central Florida
4	126	Elvis Dumervil	DE	Louisville
4	130	Domenik Hixon	WR	Akron
5	161	Chris Kuper	G	North Dakota
6	198	Greg Eslinger	C	Minnesota

There were some forgettable drafts without a doubt in the years before 2005 and you see that now with the holes on the team.

I'm not saying the guy hasn't failed at times, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because to be honest... I'm not sure I like the idea of not having Shanahan as the coach right now.

2007 was only the 2nd losing season for Denver since 1995... that's a nice history of not sucking and something that speaks well to his ability to field a team that is better than "just average".

We'll see what happens this season.

**the Talking Can** · 02-29-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

2007 was only the 2nd losing season for Denver since 1995... that's a nice history of not sucking and something that speaks well to his ability to field a team that is better than "just average".

We'll see what happens this season.

you've become a True Fan....Chiefs fans were where you are now a decade ago....

"Most Wins In the 90's!!!" - Carl Peterson

Shanahan has been grasping at straws for a while, and his FA moves are mostly bad to absolute disaster....your drafts haven't been much better...

**Bowser** · 02-29-2008, 04:49 PM

And Ian Gold follows Walker out the door. Didn't they give him a huge signing bonus a couple of years ago?

http://www.kansascity.com/491/story/511618.html

ClevelandBronco · 02-29-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

...Chiefs fans were where you are now a decade ago...

No. You're almost four decades removed from your team's last title. It's been only a decade for us.

We could reach your frustration level in another 25 years or so.

**noa** · 02-29-2008, 02:50 PM

Yeah, Brandon Marshall definitely grew into a much better player throughout the season, which makes this move reasonable. The injury risk and the attitude problem just aren't worth it.
I would have done the same if I was them.

**The Franchise** · 02-29-2008, 02:58 PM

I doubt he's going to want to come here and be #2 to Bowe.

Silock · 02-29-2008, 03:11 PM

I'd say 2006 was a good draft for the Donks.

bowener · 02-29-2008, 03:26 PM

I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.

Sure-Oz · 02-29-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.

that'd be pretty effed up

rtmike · 02-29-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I thought I read earlier this offseason that Walker wanted out of Denver over some bad blood and the fact that he said everywhere he looks he sees D. Williams. That would suck I think.

I remember reading shortly after D.Williams was shot that Walker wanted out but was talked into staying.

Frankie · 02-29-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rtmike

I remember reading shortly after D.Williams was shot that Walker wanted out but was talked into staying.

Maybe a change of scenery will help him. I say if he's reasonably priced and passes our physical, why not?

The Poz · 02-29-2008, 03:32 PM

read this on rotoworld:
Broncos released WR Javon Walker, according to ESPN's Michael Smith.
He's a big name, but Walker's contract and knee injury made it an easy choice by Denver. That no one chose to give up a late-round pick for Walker is telling. It's rumored that he could need microfracture surgery in the future, although he will have plenty of suitors lined up with MRI machines. Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, and Tampa Bay have been rumored to be interested.

ClevelandBronco · 02-29-2008, 03:35 PM

One season too late.

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The Poz Enjoyer of things Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Casino cash: $10012210	read this on rotoworld: Broncos released WR Javon Walker, according to ESPN's Michael Smith. He's a big name, but Walker's contract and knee injury made it an easy choice by Denver. That no one chose to give up a late-round pick for Walker is telling. It's rumored that he could need microfracture surgery in the future, although he will have plenty of suitors lined up with MRI machines. Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, and Tampa Bay have been rumored to be interested.
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