Chiefs You scared? - Page 5

**bevischief** · 12-10-2012, 04:13 PM

Only if they don't clean house.

|Zach| · 12-10-2012, 04:22 PM

The culture of a business (especially a pro sports business) starts at the top and permeates every single level. It is so important.

Hammock Parties · 12-10-2012, 04:24 PM

Clark already said he wanted to build via the draft and develop our own QB.

He gets it.

He just needs to find the right guy to execute it.

|Zach| · 12-10-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Clark already said he wanted to build via the draft and develop our own QB.

He gets it.

He just needs to find the right guy to execute it.

And Carl had a 5 year plan!

Whatever.

Hammock Parties · 12-10-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

And Carl had a 5 year plan!

Whatever.

Facts are facts.

Carl and Herm are not on Clark. He took care of that.

Pioli was a giant ****up.

We'll see if Clark has any hiring sense in a couple months.

If not, he's a problem and someone else needs to be in control.

Goldmember · 12-10-2012, 04:28 PM

Rome was built faster

**Iowanian** · 12-10-2012, 04:29 PM

I'm not scared, but if this offseason doesn't give me reason to hope....I'll cancel Sunday ticket and officially be apathetic.

They're close to ruining football for me and I'll find better things to do. I can hunt most sundays of the NFL Season.

|Zach| · 12-10-2012, 04:32 PM

It isn't just on the field. This organization is tone deaf and bad in other phases as well. They had a photographer that worked for them for forty ****ing years and screwed him over the first chance they got when Lamar passed.

This turned into a huge court case.

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A photographer who worked for the Kansas City Chiefs for 40 years is complaining that the team misused his images. Hank Young says the Chiefs violated his agreement with the team's public-relations department when it used his photographs to enliven the concourses, entrances and other areas of the new Arrowhead Stadium.

Young's work with the Chiefs began in 1972, the year that Arrowhead opened. According to a lawsuit filed in federal court, Young was an independent contractor who "retained the right to permit or refuse the use of any photographs for non-editorial purposes."

Young granted the Chiefs access to his archives during the renovation, which included the construction of a hall of fame. Young says he was led to believe that his photographs were going to be used in the hall of fame in a way that was consistent with the license agreement.

Later, Young says, the Chiefs attempted to "coerce" him into signing over the rights to his photographs. The team gave Young a deadline of July 23, 2010, the day the press took a tour of the new Arrowhead.

Young, who lives in Fairway, took the tour. He says his images "permeate" the stadium. He estimates that he took at least half of the photographs that are used in artwork on walls, columns and banners.

As Young sees it, the displays violate the terms of his agreement because the images draw attention to concession stands and serve sponsorship deals. A photograph of the offensive line that Young took in 2004, for instance, is featured an a banner that stretches across a gate that Sprint sponsors.

Young alleges that he got a cold response when he went to the front office to talk about the way his images were being used:

Shortly after he learned that the Chiefs had made his artwork a central design aspect of New Arrowhead, Mr. Young requested a meeting with Mark Donovan, who is currently President of the Kansas City Chiefs. At the meeting, Mr. Donovan refused to even discuss the unauthorized use of Mr. Young's Photographs and told Mr. Young that he could not pursue a request for compensation for the use of his Photographs and continue as a game day photographer. Consequently, Mr. Young's forty-year relationship with the Kansas City Chiefs came to end.

In addition to the Chiefs, Young names as defendants the architecture and design firms that worked on the stadium renovations, as well as team sponsors Sprint, Time Warner and Hy-Vee.

The Chiefs declined comment. A spokesman says team officials are aware of Young's claim but have not had a chance to review the file.

http://www.pitch.com/plog/archives/2...his-game-shots

Failing on the field...screwing over local business partners they have worked with for decades...being assholes to fans...

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 04:33 PM

Good ****ing God, Zach.

You sound like Denise.

|Zach| · 12-10-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Good ****ing God, Zach.

You sound like Denise.

How can you not see all these things go together to paint a picture of an organization that does not "get it"

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

How can you not see all these things go together to paint a picture of an organization that does not "get it"

Because Clark and Lamar aren't the same person.

Clark fired Carl Peterson after 2 seasons, something Lamar couldn't do in TEN.

I'm not going to hang it all up after Clark's first hire, especially when that first hire is about to get fired.

|Zach| · 12-10-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because Clark and Lamar aren't the same person.

Clark fired Carl Peterson after 2 seasons, something Lamar couldn't do in TEN.

I'm not going to hang it all up after Clark's first hire, especially when that first hire is about to get fired.

You're right. Lamar at least won a few things before he let the organization rot on the vine...Clark just thought he would fast forward through all that.

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

You're right. Lamar at least won a few things before he let the organization rot on the vine...Clark just thought he would fast forward through all that.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-10-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Good ****ing God, Zach.

You sound like Denise.

LOL Precisely.

Spott · 12-10-2012, 04:35 PM

Hell, I'm 40 and this dry spell started before I was born. But if Pioli and Romeo are here next year and we don't take a QB, I am throwing out all of my Chiefs stuff and either finding a new team or I just won't have a favorite NFL team.

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12-10-2012, 04:32 PM	#8
\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5236768	It isn't just on the field. This organization is tone deaf and bad in other phases as well. They had a photographer that worked for them for forty **ing years and screwed him over the first chance they got when Lamar passed. This turned into a huge court case. ------ A photographer who worked for the Kansas City Chiefs for 40 years is complaining that the team misused his images. Hank Young says the Chiefs violated his agreement with the team's public-relations department when it used his photographs to enliven the concourses, entrances and other areas of the new Arrowhead Stadium. Young's work with the Chiefs began in 1972, the year that Arrowhead opened. According to a lawsuit filed in federal court, Young was an independent contractor who "retained the right to permit or refuse the use of any photographs for non-editorial purposes." Young granted the Chiefs access to his archives during the renovation, which included the construction of a hall of fame. Young says he was led to believe that his photographs were going to be used in the hall of fame in a way that was consistent with the license agreement. Later, Young says, the Chiefs attempted to "coerce" him into signing over the rights to his photographs. The team gave Young a deadline of July 23, 2010, the day the press took a tour of the new Arrowhead. Young, who lives in Fairway, took the tour. He says his images "permeate" the stadium. He estimates that he took at least half of the photographs that are used in artwork on walls, columns and banners. As Young sees it, the displays violate the terms of his agreement because the images draw attention to concession stands and serve sponsorship deals. A photograph of the offensive line that Young took in 2004, for instance, is featured an a banner that stretches across a gate that Sprint sponsors. Young alleges that he got a cold response when he went to the front office to talk about the way his images were being used: Shortly after he learned that the Chiefs had made his artwork a central design aspect of New Arrowhead, Mr. Young requested a meeting with Mark Donovan, who is currently President of the Kansas City Chiefs. At the meeting, Mr. Donovan refused to even discuss the unauthorized use of Mr. Young's Photographs and told Mr. Young that he could not pursue a request for compensation for the use of his Photographs and continue as a game day photographer. Consequently, Mr. Young's forty-year relationship with the Kansas City Chiefs came to end. In addition to the Chiefs, Young names as defendants the architecture and design firms that worked on the stadium renovations, as well as team sponsors Sprint, Time Warner and Hy-Vee. The Chiefs declined comment. A spokesman says team officials are aware of Young's claim but have not had a chance to review the file. http://www.pitch.com/plog/archives/2...his-game-shots Failing on the field...screwing over local business partners they have worked with for decades...being assholes to fans...**
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Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $2882400	Hell, I'm 40 and this dry spell started before I was born. But if Pioli and Romeo are here next year and we don't take a QB, I am throwing out all of my Chiefs stuff and either finding a new team or I just won't have a favorite NFL team.
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