Misc ATT to impose DSL/Uverse cap - Page 2

WoodDraw · 03-13-2011, 09:24 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/a...-overage-fees/

150 gigs for landline DSL, 250 for U-Verse. $10 for each additional 50.

Thoughts?

Frazod · 03-13-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

There is not a high def version of Romancing the Bone.

And thank God for that.

Seriously, who wants high def porn? I'd rather not see stubble bumps, plastic surgery scars and snatch acne in 1080p clarity, thank you very much.

**pr_capone** · 03-13-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

And thank God for that.

Seriously, who wants high def porn? I'd rather not see stubble bumps, plastic surgery scars and snatch acne in 1080p clarity, thank you very much.

Match up HD porn with a fleshlight w/usb connection to the computer... every D&D player's dream.

TrickyNicky · 03-13-2011, 11:01 PM

Is there a program to monitor your usage? I wonder how much online gaming for 20-30 hours a week uses.

Pants · 03-14-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

Is there a program to monitor your usage? I wonder how much online gaming for 20-30 hours a week uses.

Not anywhere near the 150/250gb limit. You have to download like a fiend for a month to reach those numbers. Unless of course, you're DLing a bunch of BluRay movies.

You can still pirate a bunch of shit and still be ok with that 250gb limit. Thank God.

**007** · 03-14-2011, 08:10 PM

I've always wondered how much bandwidth a 2 hour netflix movie takes.

patteeu · 03-14-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I've always wondered how much bandwidth a 2 hour netflix movie takes.

When I had satellite, my provider (Hughes) had a bandwidth limit of 425 MB per 24 hour period which is a little less than 15 GB per month. That was pretty restrictive. I could generally do all the webpage surfing and email I wanted, but I had to limit my streaming video and audio consumption. I could watch about one 1 hr Hulu tv show replay and a few youtube videos per day without busting the cap, but that was about it.

150 GB per day sounds like a pretty decent limit, but with HD and with multiple family members all wanting to watch different Hulu or Netflix streams, and with content becoming ever larger, I bet it won't be long before the limit becomes a factor even if it isn't as crippling as the Hughes limits were.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-14-2011, 08:55 PM

Those mother****ing, goddamned, degenerate ****ing ****s.

**morphius** · 03-14-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I've always wondered how much bandwidth a 2 hour netflix movie takes.

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According to Netflix customer service as of 11/2010, the following are their estimated average bandwidth use:
Computer: 2.5gb/hour
PS3: 2.5gb/hour
XBOX 360: 1.5gb/hour

Just randomly grabbed off of some site. Some other places say 1 GB an hour.

**CrazyPhuD** · 03-15-2011, 10:23 AM

So when it comes to 'how much bandwidth does this take' there's a pretty straight forward way to calculate the amount of bandwidth per hour.

So video tends to be encoded and references in MegaBits per second or KiloBits per second. For the sake of arguement I'm going to ignore the KiloBits/s video since most of the high quality video is in MegaBits/s. Now the bandwidth caps are in GigaBytes. A Byte is 8 Bits, so if video was say encoded at 8MegaBits/s second that would equal 1 MegaByte/s or for every second of video played you need 1 MegaByte of bandwidth. With 60 seconds per minute and 60 minutes per hour there are 3600 seconds per hour. 1hr of 8 MegaBit/s(1 MegaByte/s) video would need 3.6 GigaBytes of bandwidth.

So the amount of bandwidth you need depends upon how high quality the video is.

So the general rule for high quality SDTV is 3.5Mbits/s or ~1.5GB/hour of video.

For broadcast quality 720p HDTV is between 8-15Mbits/s or 3.6GB-6.8GB/hour

For bluray quality 1080p it's between 30-40Mbits/s or 13.5GB-18GB/hour

Now over the internet they compress the hell out of some of the video and don't come close to approaching high quality(1080p video online is a real joke). The commonly used bandwidth metrics for internet video tends to be(or at least the last time I looked which was a while).

~1.5Mbits/s for SD or 675MB/hour
~3Mbits/s for 720p HD or 1.35 GB/hour
~5Mbits/s for 1080p HD or 2.25GB/hour

If I recall the average household watches around 80-100 hours of TV a month.

So at SD you'd have 54-67.5GB of monthly bandwidth.

At '720p HD' you'd have 108-135GB per month

At '1080p HD' you'd have 180-225GB per month

Note this is with pretty medium quality video.

WoodDraw · 03-15-2011, 12:10 PM

My concern is less with the immediate cap and more with the longterm scale. 250 gigs is plenty now, but in two years? I doubt ATT will be rushing to up the free cap.

In other words, it feels like an attempt to get a cap in without a lot of controversy (no one reaches these limits, etc.), knowing it won't take long for todays high use to become normal use.

patteeu · 03-15-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw

My concern is less with the immediate cap and more with the longterm scale. 250 gigs is plenty now, but in two years? I doubt ATT will be rushing to up the free cap.

In other words, it feels like an attempt to get a cap in without a lot of controversy (no one reaches these limits, etc.), knowing it won't take long for todays high use to become normal use.

I think you're right.

ReynardMuldrake · 03-15-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw

My concern is less with the immediate cap and more with the longterm scale. 250 gigs is plenty now, but in two years? I doubt ATT will be rushing to up the free cap.

In other words, it feels like an attempt to get a cap in without a lot of controversy (no one reaches these limits, etc.), knowing it won't take long for todays high use to become normal use.

It's also regressive. New business/advertising models have sprung up because of the availability of bandwidth. Things like streaming content & video chat. It's like they want to keep us in the 20th century. Very weak move on AT&T's part.

kcxiv · 03-15-2011, 03:00 PM

i think i mma have to go with AT and T uverse soon. comcast cant figure out why i cant download hell, even watchy netflix and play xbox live anymore without it studdering to hell and back. My download speed is 158 kbs a second and i pay 46 a month for cable modem? wtf kinda bullshit is that. 2 days ago i was downlaoding at speeds of 1400 now its down to 148?

I am pissed. I feel like i am back in 1999.

kcxiv · 03-15-2011, 06:25 PM

I ordered Uverse the 6mb line for 30 bucks a month for the first year. Comcast tried to offer me 6mb a month for 49 a year. I am right now 1.5mb at 46 a month? Lets not forget that Comcast also has the 250gb cap a month. I have never went over that cap and i download/stream alot of movies/tv/video gamesand yeah porn.

30 a month at 6mb line? or 1.5mb at 46 a month? what ****ing makes sense? comcast can eat a dick.

Pants · 03-17-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

i think i mma have to go with AT and T uverse soon. comcast cant figure out why i cant download hell, even watchy netflix and play xbox live anymore without it studdering to hell and back. My download speed is 158 kbs a second and i pay 46 a month for cable modem? wtf kinda bullshit is that. 2 days ago i was downlaoding at speeds of 1400 now its down to 148?

I am pissed. I feel like i am back in 1999.

Do you use wireless? Is it encrypted? You might have someone like CJizzles stealing your bandwidth.

03-13-2011, 09:24 PM
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03-15-2011, 10:23 AM	#24
CrazyPhuD Meow Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $10005050	So when it comes to 'how much bandwidth does this take' there's a pretty straight forward way to calculate the amount of bandwidth per hour. So video tends to be encoded and references in MegaBits per second or KiloBits per second. For the sake of arguement I'm going to ignore the KiloBits/s video since most of the high quality video is in MegaBits/s. Now the bandwidth caps are in GigaBytes. A Byte is 8 Bits, so if video was say encoded at 8MegaBits/s second that would equal 1 MegaByte/s or for every second of video played you need 1 MegaByte of bandwidth. With 60 seconds per minute and 60 minutes per hour there are 3600 seconds per hour. 1hr of 8 MegaBit/s(1 MegaByte/s) video would need 3.6 GigaBytes of bandwidth. So the amount of bandwidth you need depends upon how high quality the video is. So the general rule for high quality SDTV is 3.5Mbits/s or ~1.5GB/hour of video. For broadcast quality 720p HDTV is between 8-15Mbits/s or 3.6GB-6.8GB/hour For bluray quality 1080p it's between 30-40Mbits/s or 13.5GB-18GB/hour Now over the internet they compress the hell out of some of the video and don't come close to approaching high quality(1080p video online is a real joke). The commonly used bandwidth metrics for internet video tends to be(or at least the last time I looked which was a while). ~1.5Mbits/s for SD or 675MB/hour ~3Mbits/s for 720p HD or 1.35 GB/hour ~5Mbits/s for 1080p HD or 2.25GB/hour If I recall the average household watches around 80-100 hours of TV a month. So at SD you'd have 54-67.5GB of monthly bandwidth. At '720p HD' you'd have 108-135GB per month At '1080p HD' you'd have 180-225GB per month Note this is with pretty medium quality video. __________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t*rd by the clean end"
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03-15-2011, 12:10 PM	#25
WoodDraw Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005059	My concern is less with the immediate cap and more with the longterm scale. 250 gigs is plenty now, but in two years? I doubt ATT will be rushing to up the free cap. In other words, it feels like an attempt to get a cap in without a lot of controversy (no one reaches these limits, etc.), knowing it won't take long for todays high use to become normal use.
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03-15-2011, 03:00 PM	#28
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8807996	i think i mma have to go with AT and T uverse soon. comcast cant figure out why i cant download hell, even watchy netflix and play xbox live anymore without it studdering to hell and back. My download speed is 158 kbs a second and i pay 46 a month for cable modem? wtf kinda bullshit is that. 2 days ago i was downlaoding at speeds of 1400 now its down to 148? I am pissed. I feel like i am back in 1999.
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03-15-2011, 06:25 PM	#29
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8807996	I ordered Uverse the 6mb line for 30 bucks a month for the first year. Comcast tried to offer me 6mb a month for 49 a year. I am right now 1.5mb at 46 a month? Lets not forget that Comcast also has the 250gb cap a month. I have never went over that cap and i download/stream alot of movies/tv/video gamesand yeah porn. 30 a month at 6mb line? or 1.5mb at 46 a month? what ****ing makes sense? comcast can eat a dick.
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