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Old 10-09-2012, 08:55 PM   #1
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Brian Griese was an attempt at drafting a franchise QB.

The Broncos didn't have the ammo to get a QB with a high pick at the time.

Shanny > Belichick, and his record against that fraud is proof.
Shanny's record has shown that like Belichick, his success has come only when having an elite QB.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:03 PM   #2
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Shanny's record has shown that like Belichick, his success has come only when having an elite QB.
The Broncos were a very good team with Plummer.

42 wins in 4 years is nothing to scoff at.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:04 PM   #3
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The Broncos were a very good team with Plummer.

42 wins in 4 years is nothing to scoff at.
Thanks for your input Carl Peterson.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:06 PM   #4
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Thanks for your input Carl Peterson.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #5
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Your homer days are OVER! You will wear BLACK.
At this point I'm one of the least homerish here. Most of you Casselhats are just happy with anything better than Cassel. Out here white knighting Russell Wilson, Tannehill, Mallett, and Jake freaking Plummer. Really now. If that's our goal just shoot all of us in the head now and get this over with.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:11 PM   #6
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At this point I'm one of the least homerish here. Most of you Casselhats are just happy with anything better than Cassel. Out here white knighting Russell Wilson, Tannehill, Mallett, and Jake freaking Plummer. Really now. If that's our goal just shoot all of us in the head now and get this over with.
People wanting Wilson was an overreaction to the lose to SEA. Who wants Jake Plummer? Not sure Tannehill is a bad situation.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:13 PM   #7
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People wanting Wilson was an overreaction to the lose to SEA. Who wants Jake Plummer? Not sure Tannehill is a bad situation.
I've watched Wilson make throws in the last few game that Matty could only dream about.
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At this point I'm one of the least homerish here. Most of you Casselhats are just happy with anything better than Cassel. Out here white knighting Russell Wilson, Tannehill, Mallett, and Jake freaking Plummer. Really now. If that's our goal just shoot all of us in the head now and get this over with.
All the QB's you listed would be an upgrade over Cassel.

Jake Plummer who has been out of the league for 5 years would be an upgrade over Cassel.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:15 PM   #9
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All the QB's you listed would be an upgrade over Cassel.

Jake Plummer who has been out of the league for 5 years would be an upgrade over Cassel.
There you go. The point is not to find a QB better than Cassel. The point is to find a QB capable of winning a Super Bowl. Period.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:40 PM   #10
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At this point I'm one of the least homerish here. Most of you Casselhats are just happy with anything better than Cassel. Out here white knighting Russell Wilson, Tannehill, Mallett, and Jake freaking Plummer. Really now. If that's our goal just shoot all of us in the head now and get this over with.
Tannehill is showing the stuff that Franchise QB's are made of, so he does not belong in this category.

It's early, but he's looking awfully good.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:01 PM   #11
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Tannehill is showing the stuff that Franchise QB's are made of, so he does not belong in this category.

It's early, but he's looking awfully good.
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At this point I'm one of the least homerish here. Most of you Casselhats are just happy with anything better than Cassel. Out here white knighting Russell Wilson, Tannehill, Mallett, and Jake freaking Plummer. Really now. If that's our goal just shoot all of us in the head now and get this over with.
What's wrong with Tannehill? The guy looks decent for a rookie who may be getting rushed into it.
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What's wrong with Tannehill? The guy looks decent for a rookie who may be getting rushed into it.
And he's improving each week.

Furthermore, the guy doesn't have jack for receivers.
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The Broncos were a very good team with Plummer.

42 wins in 4 years is nothing to scoff at.
Fair. BB was 11-5 the yr he didn't have Brady. Granted it was a weak schedule but in the end I am not sure there is much of a difference. Neither has had any real "great coach" success without their elite QB. Shanny has either 0 or 1 playoff win without Elway right? Also not much in WAS to care about before RG3.

Either way, while I do also feel BB gets way too much credit, I just feel fraud is a little bit much.
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