"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

[Prison Bitch]

The fact this epidemic is such a recent phenomenon really ends any discussion it's a "disease"

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

The fact this epidemic is such a recent phenomenon really ends any discussion it's a "disease"

Good point, and the struggle is figuring out... given the constraints, how can we solve the problem.

How do you reduce obesity when you have "big food" using deceptive labeling? How do you convince people to make better food, when they don't know how to cook? How do you convince frugal people to buy better food when good food is unbelievably expensive? How do you convince people to stay on diets and exercise programs when: 1) they fail because they're not reading labels right; 2) they fail because they got suckered into some sham diet or exercise plan; 3) they fail because they don't have the money to pay for a trainer?

For example... I'm not a big fan of running. And I don't get people's obsession with it. If you can do it consistently, good for you. But too many people think that running an hour a day is the best way to lose weight. So much miseducation out there about how to keep yourself in good shape.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Good point, and the struggle is figuring out... given the constraints, how can we solve the problem.

How do you reduce obesity when you have "big food" using deceptive labeling? How do you convince people to make better food, when they don't know how to cook? How do you convince frugal people to buy better food when good food is unbelievably expensive? How do you convince people to stay on diets and exercise programs when: 1) they fail because they're not reading labels right; 2) they fail because they got suckered into some sham diet or exercise plan; 3) they fail because they don't have the money to pay for a trainer?

For example... I'm not a big fan of running. And I don't get people's obsession with it. If you can do it consistently, good for you. But too many people think that running an hour a day is the best way to lose weight. So much miseducation out there about how to keep yourself in good shape.

It may not be the best way to lose weight, but it's certainly better than sitting on your ass watching TV.

My generation didn't spend all day playing video games. We were outside doing something active, sunrise to sunset. Stickball, street hockey, touch football, tennis - hell, we made up games to play.

Sadly, it's my generation that is allowing obesity to become an epidemic among children. Buying the PS3 because everyone else has one, then allowing thier kid to sit on it for hours on end.

Going through the drive thru and feeding your kids garbage because you're in a hurry or because you can't say boo to your kid.

Instead of blaming "big food", people can take personal responsibility for their predicament and do something to change their habits. It's not going to happen overnight. Small steps can lead to big change.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It may not be the best way to lose weight, but it's certainly better than sitting on your ass watching TV.

My generation didn't spend all day playing video games. We were outside doing something active, sunrise to sunset. Stickball, street hockey, touch football, tennis - hell, we made up games to play.

Sadly, it's my generation that is allowing obesity to become an epidemic among children. Buying the PS3 because everyone else has one, then allowing thier kid to sit on it for hours on end.

Going through the drive thru and feeding your kids garbage because you're in a hurry or because you can't say boo to your kid.

Instead of blaming "big food", people can take personal responsibility for their predicament and do something to change their habits. It's not going to happen overnight. Small steps can lead to big change.

It's a mix between personal responsibility but also irresponsible practices by society including "Big Food." You may be oversimplifying the problem. There are people who try and despite their efforts, fail. Because they are doing the right things but working off really, really bad information.

I've always kept myself pretty healthy. I gave up fast food about 7 years ago and eat it rarely. I don't really eat junk food. I wish I was more motivated to work out, but I work out enough. But even when I was at my most active, I didn't get nearly the benefit of exercise until I started doing more total body cardio. I improved my diet a millionfold when instead of just watching what I ate, I actually followed a diet plan telling me how much dairy, protein, etc... I could eat in a day.

Now that I know this stuff, I can maintain and have for over 5 years. It took me about 30 years to figure that out, and it wasn't for lack of trying. It shouldn't have to be that hard. I hate that we took home ec and phys ed out of a lot of schools. And I hate that our food is so misleading that we don't know what we are putting into our bodies even when we're watching out for it.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It may not be the best way to lose weight, but it's certainly better than sitting on your ass watching TV.

My generation didn't spend all day playing video games. We were outside doing something active, sunrise to sunset. Stickball, street hockey, touch football, tennis - hell, we made up games to play.

Sadly, it's my generation that is allowing obesity to become an epidemic among children. Buying the PS3 because everyone else has one, then allowing thier kid to sit on it for hours on end.

Going through the drive thru and feeding your kids garbage because you're in a hurry or because you can't say boo to your kid.

Instead of blaming "big food", people can take personal responsibility for their predicament and do something to change their habits. It's not going to happen overnight. Small steps can lead to big change.

There's also the fact that fewer and fewer jobs every year require any physical labor. A days work use to mean a days work for most people. Now we have tons of desk jobs and computers and machines do do the actual work for us...

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Welp, use it against me later, I don't give a ****. I lost 185lbs and put damn near every bit back on in the last 3 years. Went from running 40 miles a week, to drinking a gallon of bourbon a week. I've been trying hard to break the chains of drinking, but it's really easy to do after a long days work. Never drank in my life before I moved down here. Alcoholism runs in my family. Funny how life works. But I know it's not a disease. It's a series of horrible ****ing choices. I'm searching for the willpower to break the ****ing chains.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Welp, use it against me later, I don't give a ****. I lost 185lbs and put damn near every bit back on in the last 3 years. Went from running 40 miles a week, to drinking a gallon of bourbon a week. I've been trying hard to break the chains of drinking, but it's really easy to do after a long days work. Never drank in my life before I moved down here. Alcoholism runs in my family. Funny how life works. But I know it's not a disease. It's a series of horrible ****ing choices. I'm searching for the willpower to break the ****ing chains.

That's what I love about you, bro. You're so ****ing honest.

So you've made some bad choices in the last 3 years. BFD.

You've done it before, (lost significant weight) and you'll do it again if you want to. Start small, break those chains, then power on.

[houstonwhodat]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Welp, use it against me later, I don't give a ****. I lost 185lbs and put damn near every bit back on in the last 3 years. Went from running 40 miles a week, to drinking a gallon of bourbon a week. I've been trying hard to break the chains of drinking, but it's really easy to do after a long days work. Never drank in my life before I moved down here. Alcoholism runs in my family. Funny how life works. But I know it's not a disease. It's a series of horrible ****ing choices. I'm searching for the willpower to break the ****ing chains.

AA?

It worked for me.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

AA?

It worked for me.

Do they have AA for racists?

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do they have AA for racists?

RA?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's what I love about you, bro. You're so ****ing honest.

So you've made some bad choices in the last 3 years. BFD.

You've done it before, (lost significant weight) and you'll do it again if you want to. Start small, break those chains, then power on.

I have the blueprint. That's for sure. I don't mind putting myself out there on this board. If one person can relate and find some kind of comfort in knowing they're not alone in the world, that's good enough for me. We need to hook up this summer bro. I'm going to get up for a Cards game before the season is over. It's non negotiable.

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

AA?

It worked for me.

I haven't gotten to the point that I'm ready to go down that road. I've been drinking for a short period of time, and feel I can do it with will power. I'm not opposed to it however if it becomes something I feel necessary.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I have the blueprint. That's for sure. I don't mind putting myself out there on this board. If one person can relate and find some kind of comfort in knowing they're not alone in the world, that's good enough for me. We need to hook up this summer bro. I'm going to get up for a Cards game before the season is over. It's non negotiable.

I have three weeks off from September 13th to October 6th.

Let's make it happen. Set a date in that timeframe, and I'll be sure to set aside the company tickets.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I have three weeks off from September 13th to October 6th.

Let's make it happen. Set a date in that timeframe, and I'll be sure to set aside the company tickets.

Easy. That's a deal, my friend. Never been there, and super excited. I'll check dates at work, and set up a time with you within the week! Thanks, brother! I've driven through the Lou, but never really been able to check it out.

[houstonwhodat]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I have the blueprint. That's for sure. I don't mind putting myself out there on this board. If one person can relate and find some kind of comfort in knowing they're not alone in the world, that's good enough for me. We need to hook up this summer bro. I'm going to get up for a Cards game before the season is over. It's non negotiable.



I haven't gotten to the point that I'm ready to go down that road. I've been drinking for a short period of time, and feel I can do it with will power. I'm not opposed to it however if it becomes something I feel necessary.

I went for 7 years and was sober for that long.

I enjoyed it. Met some nice people and made some nice industry contacts too.

You wouldn't believe who is in AA. Hell Ringo was in town one week and kept coming to our club.

But in the end it's up to you.

I started feeling like I wanted a drink again and went out and did more "research" as they call it.

Life is definitely much better sober and cheaper too.

****ing drinking is expensive.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

I went for 7 years and was sober for that long.

I enjoyed it. Met some nice people and made some nice industry contacts too.

You wouldn't believe who is in AA. Hell Ringo was in town one week and kept coming to our club.

But in the end it's up to you.

I started feeling like I wanted a drink again and went out and did more "research" as they call it.

Life is definitely much better sober and cheaper too.

****ing drinking is expensive.

****in' A it is! I won't drink complete dog shit, so I spend at least $50 a week as Jim Beam is the lowest shelf I'll drink.