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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:48 AM   #1126
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well then, prove it wrong. I don't much care. I am sure you will grab YOUR bag of excuses to defense every QB alive or dead except your own QB. Have fun with that!

Go Chiefs!
Who needs to make excuses for Rodgers, Eli and Ben?

They have FIVE LOMBARDI TROPHIES between them, you ****ing dolt.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:13 PM   #1127
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:15 PM   #1128
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Who needs to make excuses for Rodgers, Eli and Ben?

They have FIVE LOMBARDI TROPHIES between them, you ****ing dolt.
Uh...yeah.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:35 PM   #1129
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Hey were 3-0 !! Deal with it !!! It only gets better !!
Thanks, Halfcan.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:41 PM   #1130
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OMG WE DON'T HAVE SHIELDS, GRUNDGART, AND ROAF ETC. WE JUST CAN'T PLAY FOOTBALL CORRECTLY FOR ALEX SMITH, OH WOE IS US!

Enough.
That being said, with all of Alex Smith's weaknesses, we need our line to play better to have a chance of winning anything substantial. Mainly in the run game.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:42 PM   #1131
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #1132
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This.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand of course:



Mother****er; we're NOT hearing any bullshit about this ****ing line ANYMORE.

YOU AND ANYONE SPOUTING THIS BULLSHIT WILL CEASE AND DESIST NOW.

ENOUGH, GODDAMNIT.
**** off, you miserable sack of shit.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:45 PM   #1133
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Thanks, Halfcan.
And thank you for repeatedly letting us all know that Alex Smith is Alex Smith.

That's some cutting edge info.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:47 PM   #1134
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Can someone sum up all 76 pages?
The Chiefs suck.

The end.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:53 PM   #1135
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The Chiefs suck.

The end.
no no no -- The Chiefs' QB sucks balls and Dwayne Bowe is choco heaven. The end.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #1136
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Worst in the league huh? Apparently they haven't seen the Jacksonville Jaguars play this season...
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:59 PM   #1137
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Worst in the league huh? Apparently they haven't seen the Jacksonville Jaguars play this season...
no no no -- you can't watch games and evaluate, you must only use statistics text and that is the motherload.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:05 PM   #1138
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And thank you for repeatedly letting us all know that Alex Smith is Alex Smith.

That's some cutting edge info.
You're welcome.

Now, if I could just show you these stats...

Spoiler!
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:07 PM   #1139
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It's not a defense for the offense, but in the Dallas game alone Smith had 4 balls dropped by his receivers on 3rd down that would have been 1st down completions. You can spread the blame on offense around to everyone though. The line has struggled, they haven't gelled as a unit. Lack of a push and the ability to consistently rush between the tackles. Pass protection is shakey and inconsistent.

Smith's lack of vertical passing, and holding onto the ball too long sometimes. We can't seem to keep any of our TE's healthy- and that seems to be Smith's security blanket.
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You're welcome.

Now, if I could just show you these stats...

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You bastard. I opened that too lol.
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