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Old 09-17-2013, 09:55 AM  
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SI: The 49ers intended to trade Kaepernick to Philly
Report: Eagles backed out of trade for Colin Kaepernick intending to draft Russell Wilson

BY BRIAN KOTLOFF

The Eagles reportedly had a trade in place to acquire Colin Kaepernick for a second-round pick last offseason.

The NFL’s top two emerging young quarterbacks apparently slipped through the Philadelphia Eagles’ grasp last offseason.

Prior to the 2012 NFL Draft, the Eagles came close to trading a second-round pick for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, but backed out of the deal thinking they could draft Russell Wilson, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

The 49ers were open to trading Kaepernick because Alex Smith, who they eventually traded to the Chiefs, had led them to the NFC Championship Game in 2011.

But the Eagles’ decision backfired when the Seattle Seahawks selected Wilson with the 12th pick in the third round, forcing Philadelphia to settle for current backup Nick Foles 13 picks later.

According to the report, the Eagles had “geared their whole draft around” Wilson, who led the Seahawks to the playoffs during a spectacular rookie season in 2012.

Wilson and Kaepernick face off on Sunday Night Football this week, guiding what many consider the two best teams in the NFC.

http://tracking.si.com/2013/09/15/ea...?sct=obnetwork
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:12 PM   #61
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I don't know if I'd go that far, at least regarding Pete. He stated throughout the 2012 offseason that there was going to be a true competition between Wilson and Flynn, despite the fact they gave Flynn a three year, $27 million dollar deal.

He said he really liked Wilson's competitiveness, didn't think his height would be a factor and thought he had plenty of arm strength.
He didn't want to draft Wilson. The GM overruled him. It's well-chronicled.
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He didn't want to draft Wilson. The GM overruled him. It's well-chronicled.
I don't recall that being the case. Maybe you're better at teh Googles than me but I found these articles, just after the 2012 draft, in which Pete gushes over Wilson and give him an opportunity to start.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-can-be-great/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/79...eahawks-qb-job

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ru...hawks-qbs.html
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:23 PM   #63
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This is why the "Harbaugh absolutely loved Kaepernick" story was bullshit. If he loved him as much as the media expressed he never would have waited until the second to snag him, even if he had to trade up to do so.

Harbaugh and Carroll, like Belichick before them, were just really ****ing lucky.
you can't get lucky if you don't draft one...been saying this for years, and luck is just as good as anything

bottom line, he drafted him, groomed him, and traded Smith....those are the facts
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This is actually pretty ****ing hilarious, though slightly off-topic.

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/4/2...-2012-seahawks

Rob Rang gives the 2012 Seahawks draft a "C", Vinny Iver gives it a "D" and Kansas City's own Randy Covitz gives it a "D-".
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:27 PM   #65
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If I remember right they traded up to get him in the second.
Correct. The 49er universe thought that Jims target had to be Dalton, and then when he went, the 49ers traded up, I doubt very few people really thought it was to get Colin Kaepernick. But the rumor was that Oakland was going to take him, so the 49ers made the move.
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The silver lining here is that our current HC was definitely fishing for the right QBs.
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This is actually pretty ****ing hilarious, though slightly off-topic.

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/4/2...-2012-seahawks

Rob Rang gives the 2012 Seahawks draft a "C", Vinny Iver gives it a "D" and Kansas City's own Randy Covitz gives it a "D-".
Hey! A Jaye Howard sighting!
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The silver lining here is that our current HC was definitely fishing for the right QBs.
Yep, then gets to KC and reels in an old bud light can.
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Yep, then gets to KC and reels in an old bud light can.
uh, he was fishing for Alex Smith while in Philly too!
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The article states Kaepernick for Philly's 2012 second rounder, #46 overall.
Exactly, the point. It's revisionist history. All the talk of Harbaugh spotting this kid and knowing what no one else saw, is bullshit. Otherwise, you don't give him up for so little or even really entertain the idea bc if you knew his play potential and really believed that, it doesn't even get a serious discussion especially for a player whose position is by far and by a really large margin the most important position in today's NFL. Just like getting 2 seconds from us for Smith- so the 9ers deemed him of higher value? No, they simply had leverage based on the market, the Chiefs alt. Options and given the history of Andy's interest before, they could squeeze us simply because there were other teams in need of a qb and we needed to address this because thank god the new gm and coach understand the value of a qb unlike pioli refusing to admit his guy was a mistake and move on.
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uh, he was fishing for Alex Smith while in Philly too!
I wish he would have kept the same bait.
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Maybe, if the NFL existed in a vacuum.

If a prospect is universally seen as a third rounder and a front office takes him early in the first round, they're pretty much putting their own job and nearly every job in the entire franchise in jeopardy.

So with that being the case, do you really believe that you or anyone else would draft Russell Wilson, in 2012, in the first round, knowing that if he's a failure, you've jeopardized (if not altogether lost) your job, the jobs of the coaching staff, training staff, etc., not to mention, jeopardizing any likely possibility of ever becoming a GM of an NFL franchise again?
Right now there's a stereotype based on a misguided notion of "risk." For example, teams can draft RTs at 1/1 or centers in the first, but these same teams would get eviscerated for drafting a QB with questions like Wilson?

The answer is yes, they would, and that's just pure stupidity. Trust your talent evaluations, make the pick, and own the results. I hate this mindset of "safety" in the interest of job preservation.

No doubt it exists, though.
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I wish he would have kept the same bait.
Understood. What it tells you about the three qbs that he was looking for.

he was looking for smart mobile guys. All three have that same quality.
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I don't recall that being the case. Maybe you're better at teh Googles than me but I found these articles, just after the 2012 draft, in which Pete gushes over Wilson and give him an opportunity to start.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-can-be-great/

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/79...eahawks-qb-job

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ru...hawks-qbs.html
Sorry, I got sidetracked by simultaneous tantrums.

This piece from NFL.com indicates that Carroll and Schneider disagreed over when to take him. Schneider wanted to pull the trigger in the 2nd. Carroll pushed for a defensive player instead.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...son-in-round-2

So, didn't want him at all was hyperbolic, but he wasn't the advocate of Wilson that the above makes it out to be, either.
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