John Elway is turning out to be a pretty darn good GM

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Just want to quote this to drive home the point to the OP.

I think the after high Jumbo Jack made him post it.

[alpha_omega]

Well, he got rid of Tebow. Check.

Got Manning. Check.

Rest of the division blows. Check.

Sounds like most of us here are just as smart as horseface.

[RealSNR]

Are people this dumb?

"Brilliant move picking up Peyton Manning in free agency! Stunning and creative football wisdom in picking Von Miller!"

GREATEST PERSONNEL DIRECTOR EVAH!!!

Let's see Elway put together a string of good drafts before we judge him.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by SNR

Are people this dumb?

"Brilliant move picking up Peyton Manning in free agency! Stunning and creative football wisdom in picking Von Miller!"

GREATEST PERSONNEL DIRECTOR EVAH!!!

Let's see Elway put together a string of good drafts before we judge him.

4 starters (5 if Carter wasn't on IR) and 3 regular contributors in 2 drafts seems pretty good to me.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

4 starters (5 if Carter wasn't on IR) and 3 regular contributors in 2 drafts seems pretty good to me.

2010-2011 Pioli drafted 5 starters (6 if Hudson wasn't on IR) and 4 regular contributors, but he's still a shitty GM. If Manning had chosen the Chiefs instead of the Broncos, we'd likely be talking about how Elway is struggling and Pioli is the brains.

I prefer to remove Manning from the picture when judging how Elway will do in a few years.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by SNR

2010-2011 Pioli drafted 5 starters (6 if Hudson wasn't on IR) and 4 regular contributors, but he's still a shitty GM. If Manning had chosen the Chiefs instead of the Broncos, we'd likely be talking about how Elway is struggling and Pioli is the brains.

I prefer to remove Manning from the picture when judging how Elway will do in a few years.

That team is donkey shit without Jughead

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by PGM

That team is donkey shit without Jughead

Yet we won the division without him last year.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by SNR

2010-2011 Pioli drafted 5 starters (6 if Hudson wasn't on IR) and 4 regular contributors, but he's still a shitty GM. If Manning had chosen the Chiefs instead of the Broncos, we'd likely be talking about how Elway is struggling and Pioli is the brains.

Starters on a 1-7 team. Awesome.

I prefer to remove Manning from the picture when judging how Elway will do in a few years.

Of course you would. Then you can pretend that Elway sucks and no one can argue because you are talking about a hypothetical fantasy.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Starters on a 1-7 team. Awesome.



Of course you would. Then you can pretend that Elway sucks and no one can argue because you are talking about a hypothetical fantasy.

You act all pompous, but switch the QB play and see where either team is at.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Of course you would. Then you can pretend that Elway sucks and no one can argue because you are talking about a hypothetical fantasy.

Easy, champ. Calm down there.

I'm not saying the Elway sucks. I'm just not going to slobber over him for fielding a good team led by, oh, I don't know... PEYTON MANNING.

He gets credit as a front office personnel manager for his playing career and business acumen. The guy clearly said the right words to Manning to get him to sign there, likely referencing his own brilliant playing career to foster that relationship.

We'll see how well his drafts ACTUALLY translate after some more time. Those Chiefs starters we drafted long ago are 1-8 now, but in 2010 they looked just as impressive as Elway's guys do (excluding Von Miller, who is a significant grade above anybody Pioli has drafted). A toxic work environment, shitty coaching staff, and a few slapdicks at QB later, you get the 1-8 product you see before you.

John Fox is no Romeo Crennel, so I'm not saying your team would go 1-8 even if Manning got injured or retired. But you'll excuse me if I don't call Elway a ****ing football personnel genius just yet.

[durtyrute]

Originally Posted by SNR

Are people this dumb?

"Brilliant move picking up Peyton Manning in free agency! Stunning and creative football wisdom in picking Von Miller!"

GREATEST PERSONNEL DIRECTOR EVAH!!!

Let's see Elway put together a string of good drafts before we judge him.

I hate horseface as much as anyone, but he's doing better than Pissioli.

[big nasty kcnut]

**** elway.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

**** elway.

this. hes just lucky peyton wanted to suck his dick so hard his whole life. elway didn't even have to try he just gave him the money he deserved/wanted

[Dayze]

he does have a nice stable of players.

[durtyrute]

I look at the Broncos with total disbelief. The ****ing asshole donkos have managed to have Elway and Manning. Meanwhile in loser town, we have had dick, dick and more dick...........oh yea and Len Dawson, whoo ****ing hooo.