Don Banks from SI on Chiefs Coaching/GM

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

how quickly forget all the reerun shit he did

he didn't move McCluster to running back because of Cassel
he didn't slam McCluster up the middle like a dam power back because of Cassel
he didn't decide whether to go for it on 4th down before our 3rd down play because of cassel
he didn't throw his challenge flag on reeruned play that gained us jack shit because of cassel
he didn't refuse to have an OC because of Cassel


Cassel was a major fail but Haley was an immature asshat


Haley better get a new job in arizona or something because he might not have a job next year in pittsburgh. imo.


people are fluffing Haley because it another way to lash out at Pioli

What was he supposed to do with McCluster? The dude sucks and should have never been drafted. That's on Pioli.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What was he supposed to do with McCluster? The dude sucks and should have never been drafted. That's on Pioli.

changing ... deflecting ... spinning



besides McCluster because a productive slot receiver as soon as Haley got fired.


we add a decent QB and a speed receiver and he will be even more productive.

DMC was not worth a 2nd round pick(i hated it the moment it happened) but the reality is that todd Haley SUCKED as a head coach.

Pioli's mistakes doesn't absolve Haley from his ... it just adds another mistake to Pioli's list.

OCD about Pioli is just beyond stupid

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

changing ... deflecting ... spinning



besides McCluster because a productive slot receiver as soon as Haley got fired.


we add a decent QB and a speed receiver and he will be even more productive.

DMC was not worth a 2nd round pick(i hated it the moment it happened) but the reality is that todd Haley SUCKED as a head coach.

Pioli's mistakes doesn't absolve Haley from his ... it just adds another mistake to Pioli's list.

OCD about Pioli is just beyond stupid

I NEVER said it absolves Haley AT ALL.

Some people have to see things in black and white. I don't. I prefer to see the truth.

At the end of the day, Pioli hired Haley which means all of it is 100% Pioli's fault.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I NEVER said it absolves Haley AT ALL.

Some people have to see things in black and white. I don't. I prefer to see the truth.

At the end of the day, Pioli hired Haley which means all of it is 100% Pioli's fault.

This started when Bosschief said firing Haley was a mistake ...

you semi agreed with him by saying this:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Without Cassel, we might never have seen the outbursts we saw from Haley...

firing Haley wasn't Pioli's mistake, hiring him was

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Laz

changing ... deflecting ... spinning



besides McCluster because a productive slot receiver as soon as Haley got fired.


we add a decent QB and a speed receiver and he will be even more productive.

DMC was not worth a 2nd round pick(i hated it the moment it happened) but the reality is that todd Haley SUCKED as a head coach.

Pioli's mistakes doesn't absolve Haley from his ... it just adds another mistake to Pioli's list.

OCD about Pioli is just beyond stupid

Wut?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Laz

changing ... deflecting .... spinning



besides McCluster because a productive slot receiver as soon, as Haley got fired.


we add a decent QB and a speed receiver and he will be even more productive.

DMC was not worth a 2nd round , pick(i hated it the moment it happened) but the reality is that todd Haley SUCKED as a head coach.

Pioli's mistakes doesn't absolve Haley from his ... it just adds another mistake to Pioli's list.

OCD about Pioli is just beyond stupid

Haley did not suck as a head coach. You're just a butthurt little girl who apparently would gladly be somebody's puppet, rather than stand up and have some balls and dignity. The guy wasn't allowed to choose his own starting lineup for ****s sake.

BTW, McCluster is on pace to produce 300 yds less than last season.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Haley did not suck as a head coach. You're just a butthurt little girl who apparently would gladly be somebody's puppet, rather than stand up and have some balls and dignity. The guy wasn't allowed to choose his own starting lineup for ****s sake.

BTW, McCluster is on pace to produce 300 yds less than last season.

Disagree with that. Did Pioli force him to have that abortion of a training camp? Did he force them to fake punt at their own 20 in a close game at the time? Act like a complete buffoon on the sideline? Lack the required people skills to succeed as an NFL Head Coach? Continue to play Tyler Palko?

Sure Pioli was a failure, Cassel too, but so was Haley.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PGM

Disagree with that. Did Pioli force him to have that abortion of a training camp? Did he force them to fake punt at their own 20 in a close game at the time? Act like a complete buffoon on the sideline? Lack the required people skills to succeed as an NFL Head Coach? Continue to play Tyler Palko?

Sure Pioli was a failure, Cassel too, but so was Haley.

The first two points were Haley, but not fireable offenses.

Completely wrong on the last 3 points. Who cares if he was a buffoon on the sidelines? Cowher and Gruden were notorious for doing the same damn thing, an dhtose guys are considered heroes. Did he lack the people skills? Last time I checked, the players he coached got better under his watch then became complete losers when he left -- his people skills are the exact same as Tom Coughlin's. Tyler Palko was a lot more Pioli than it was Haley.

Pioli and Cassel didn't fail because of anyone but themselves. Haley was severely limited because of Pioli and Cassel. Because of that... we don't know what Haley would have done in a better situation. I think he will do well if hired in Arizona and it will only make a bigger mockery of Pioli's shit show.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The first two points were Haley, but not fireable offenses.

Completely wrong on the last 3 points. Who cares if he was a buffoon on the sidelines? Cowher and Gruden were notorious for doing the same damn thing, an dhtose guys are considered heroes. Did he lack the people skills? Last time I checked, the players he coached got better under his watch then became complete losers when he left -- his people skills are the exact same as Tom Coughlin's. Tyler Palko was a lot more Pioli than it was Haley.

Pioli and Cassel didn't fail because of anyone but themselves. Haley was severely limited because of Pioli and Cassel. Because of that... we don't know what Haley would have done in a better situation. I think he will do well if hired in Arizona and it will only make a bigger mockery of Pioli's shit show.

lol.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

lol.

It just blows my mind that people refuse to give any credit whatsoever to Haley for making a lot of our players better. Nor will they acknowledge that the drop off this season has as much to do with Romeo sucking as a coach as it does that Haley was maybe getting something out of these players.

But again, this is exaggeration planet. You're right. Haley did absolutely nothing right. Nothing.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Pioli and Cassel didn't fail because of anyone but themselves. Haley was severely limited because of Pioli and Cassel. Because of that... we don't know what Haley would have done in a better situation. I think he will do well if hired in Arizona and it will only make a bigger mockery of Pioli's shit show.

Haley did plenty to contribute to the situation. And the immaturity which which he reacted to it all told me enough about why he is not suited to lead any organization or locker room. Arizona would be no better than average if they hired him, and I don't know what quality coordinators would ever want to work for him. He is not suited to be a head coach...