If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by Messier

Don't see why that'd be the case. Teams that needed QBs this year did little to improve themselves at that position. I'd take what we did over Arizona, Buffalo, NYJ, Cleveland, and Oakland.

You would rather have Alex Smith than Tyler Wilson?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by -King-

This.

What part of "this"? Are you going beyond just having an opinion and endorsing the insults now? Because you just finished telling me that you don't do that.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Does that mean you would prefer to give up a 2nd that escalates to a 1st in the event of a Super Bowl win instead of a 3rd that escalates to a 2nd in the event of an 8-8 record? You apparently don't know how ridiculous you guys sound when you say that this means Reid/Dorsey are satisfied with 8-8.

What a ridiculous post.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

You would rather have Alex Smith than Tyler Wilson?

In a New York Minute.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

In a New York Minute.

OOOOoooooo every thing could change.

[BossChief]

I don't think anyone would be pissed if the trigger to go to a second was a playoff appearance and it would go up to a first if we win a playoff game.

Nobody would bitch about giving up 2 2s for a guy that leads us back to the playoffs next hear...or a first and second for a guy that wins a playoff game...but the conditional trigger has the bar set at 8-8?

It's laughably horrendous that 8-8 is the point these guys deemed as the trade being successful.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don't think anyone would be pissed if the trigger to go to a second was a playoff appearance and it would go up to a first if we win a playoff game.

Nobody would bitch about giving up 2 2s for a guy that leads us back to the playoffs next hear...or a first and second for a guy that wins a playoff game...but the conditional trigger has the bar set at 8-8?

It's laughably horrendous that 8-8 is the point these guys deemed as the trade being successful.

I honestly don't care enough to dig it up, but I'm pretty sure people were pissed about the idea when it was rumored. Not everyone, mind you, but a lot were.

[BossChief]

Pissed about what?

How the triggers would escalate the trade comp?

[ThadEugenia]

You never know when 9 to 7 leads to the championship.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Pissed about what?

How the triggers would escalate the trade comp?

That 2 2nds was still too high to pay for him even if he made it to the playoffs.

[ThadEugenia]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That 2 2nds was still too high to pay for him even if he made it to the playoffs.

Is there a chance that going 7-9 is acceptable? For a franchise quaterback, there's a price.

[HoneyBadger]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I'm not defending it. But giving a 2nd in this draft isn't the worst thing, next year's too? That sucks but **** it. Lets win some games man. Sick of looking like a shit team.

8-8 is still a shitty team. Get real.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That 2 2nds was still too high to pay for him even if he made it to the playoffs.

I guess that part is debatable...I wouldn't care.

Giving up 2 second round picks to get back to 8-8 with a 29 year old quarterback is terrible though.

What's worse is that we agreed to trade a 2 and 3 for a qb that wouldnt even get us to .500.

I'm willing to give Dorsey a mulligan on that trade...but it sure was a bad "first impression"

[Mav]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I'm not mad. Honestly.

Hell I'm not even the one who said you had mults. That was a guy who knows you and what you have done on previous boards.

You are not a chiefs fan. I would bet you probably watched one chiefs game last year AT MOST, yet you are here trying to tell us about OUR team.

You are following around a never was player.

You are pathetic
Posted via Mobile Device

No, thats a guy who thinks he knows something, that he doesnt. The mods clearly stated that I am not a mult. I am not a chiefs fan. I watched far more than ONE chiefs game last year. Reasons? Brady Quinn, Peyton Hillis Romeo Crennel. So.........you can take your irrelevant opinion, and shove it up your stuck up ass. I have never tried to tell you about YOUR team. I have tried, to give some honest assestments about what kind of player alex smith is. The angry ones, are the ones who only see alex smith as a piece of garbage, who is not worth anything. especially two draft picks. Ie yourself. I said. I am here to talk football, nothing more. So, do yourself, and the rest of the board a favor, and ignore me.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by SNR

You're just as bad as frazod.

I've never lived in Kansas or Missouri. I don't give a shit about the border war that the two teams used to share. KU is my favorite college basketball team because they win, and as a Chiefs, Timberwolves, and Royals fan I think I'm allowed to cheer for a goddamn ****ing winner once in awhile, wouldn't you say? I don't give a shit about former Mizzou players just as I don't give a shit about former KU players in the NFL. And the same kind of goes for the NBA, too. I wish former Jayhawks the best, but I don't follow their professional careers closely or anything.

Chase Daniel is an unacceptable option for those game(s) when Alex Smith will be injured because what the **** has Chase Daniel ever ****ing done in the NFL? Nothing. He was looked to as the Saints' starting QB for one goddamn preseason. He's never started an NFL game. He's not exactly young and promising like a rookie backup would be. His upside in the NFL is that he's streaky and tries really hard and isn't really terrible at any one thing. He's a midget with an average/below average arm, who bounced from team to team to team for many years as an undrafted guy until the Saints for some reason let him stick around at the bottom of the depth chart. Last year it just so happened to be his "turn" to be primary backup.

He's just like Graham Harrell of the Packers, except the Packers signed Harrell and stuck with him. They didn't just pick him off some garbage heap. Even so, if Harrell were my back up QB, I'd be pretty freaking nervous if my starter ever went down. Luckily for the Packers, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have quite the injury or concussion history that Alex Smith does. The Chiefs... not so much.

You and other Mizzou fans have such a short ****ing fuse about this kind of garbage that it gets really annoying to talk about anything. Chase Daniel is a mystery box. We don't know what he's going to give us, but we know that the upside he brings is very low. It's kind of like the excitement of gambling, except when you win on Chase Daniel, you get a stale chocolate chip cookie instead of money. You Mizzou fans have no ****ing clue if he's Tyler Palko or Tony Romo. He's most likely not at either end of the spectrum, but let's not pretend that he's this brilliant asset to have on our QB squad. ANY of the 2013 QBs who were drafted would serve as a far better back up QB than Chase Daniel. And before you disagree, I highly recommend you check your homermeter.

I never said anything about him. You're just assuming the dude is horrible even though you haven't seen him play in the NFL because he's backing up Drew Brees who is one of the top 5 QB's in the league. I could care less what college he went to but it's not like the end of the world if the guy started an NFL game. Hell, I think Blaine Gabbert is absolutely horrible and I would never want him anywhere around the Chiefs. There have been plenty of terrible QB's that have started for the Chiefs. Palko, Thigpen, Cassel, Croyle, Huard and soon to be Alex Smith. Daniel is probably a decent backup but he won't win any playoff games, either.

Btw, the dude hasn't bounced around the NFL. He went undrafted, and has been with the Saints since 2009 and has been the second stringer with them since 2010. As far as being a midget, he's the same height as Russel Wilson and Drew Brees.