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Old 02-27-2013, 07:47 PM   Topic Starter
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The "TRADE" Analyzed

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Didn't see this anywhere so here ya go.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:48 PM   #2
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IT'S A TERRIBLE TRADE

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:49 PM   #3
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IT'S A TERRIBLE TRADE

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Pretty much the only result of any thread posted about the trade for the next month.

But seriously...cliff notes? Not really in the mood to hear 30 minutes about it.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:53 PM   #4
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For the people who say its not a terrible trade, how do you justify it? What about Alex Smith makes this a good trade?
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:56 PM   #5
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:58 PM   #6
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:59 PM   #7
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Matt Schaub was traded for 2 #2 picks . I'd rather have Alex Smith !
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:14 PM   #8
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Matt Schaub was traded for 2 #2 picks . I'd rather have Alex Smith !
Dude Matt Schaub has Andre freaking Johnson to throw to...Smith would have loved to have a receiver like that.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:16 PM   #9
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Dude Matt Schaub has Andre freaking Johnson to throw to...Smith would have loved to have a receiver like that.
And what the hell does that have to do with anything in the world ?
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:08 PM   #10
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I'll tell this story in the form of a parable:

There once were two college quarterbacks. Both of them were really good, but most people felt that both of them had a ways to go before they would be ready to play in the NFL. Even so, there was a team that had the #1 pick that desperately needed a quarterback, so one of the players was taken at #1. Hooray!

That player went to a team that was really bad. He was immediately thrown into the QB position because the team had no other choice. He had a horrible first few seasons as he learned on the job and was constantly running for his life behind an offensive line that couldn't protect him. It took years for him to finally relax and be able to fill the role at even a mediocre level. Eventually, though, he started to live up to his potential and even almost took a team to a Super Bowl.

The other player dropped in the draft and almost didn't even get taken in the first round. He ended up going to a team that had a starting quarterback, but he was able to learn without having to run for his life. Eventually, though, he got his chance, and thrived. He won a Super Bowl and got close a couple other times.

Geno Smith is going to end up in one of the two situations above. If he came here, he'd be in the former. Could he succeed? It's possible, but unlikely given how much he has to learn. At a minimum, it would likely take at least a few seasons before he's ready.

If we'd drafted Geno, chances are we'd be in for a couple more crappy seasons at a minimum, and even then he might not pan out. With Alex, we're able to at least be a fun team to watch for a couple years, and he might even surprise us and be good enough for us to truly compete in the playoffs. Hopefully, we'll still draft someone this year and can begin grooming him to take over in a few years. Regardless, I hope to at least be able to stomach watching games this year.

Alex isn't exciting, and I'm not a huge fan of how much we gave up to get him, but we HAD to bring in a vet of some sort this year. Expecting to start and be successful this year is just wishful thinking. Alex was the best vet QB available, so that makes it a decent (if not exciting) move.


You may now proceed to tell me all about how much of an idiot I am.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:11 PM   #11
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EXACTLY...Best post of the day.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:13 PM   #12
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I'll tell this story in the form of a parable:

There once were two college quarterbacks. Both of them were really good, but most people felt that both of them had a ways to go before they would be ready to play in the NFL. Even so, there was a team that had the #1 pick that desperately needed a quarterback, so one of the players was taken at #1. Hooray!

That player went to a team that was really bad. He was immediately thrown into the QB position because the team had no other choice. He had a horrible first few seasons as he learned on the job and was constantly running for his life behind an offensive line that couldn't protect him. It took years for him to finally relax and be able to fill the role at even a mediocre level. Eventually, though, he started to live up to his potential and even almost took a team to a Super Bowl.

The other player dropped in the draft and almost didn't even get taken in the first round. He ended up going to a team that had a starting quarterback, but he was able to learn without having to run for his life. Eventually, though, he got his chance, and thrived. He won a Super Bowl and got close a couple other times.

Geno Smith is going to end up in one of the two situations above. If he came here, he'd be in the former. Could he succeed? It's possible, but unlikely given how much he has to learn. At a minimum, it would likely take at least a few seasons before he's ready.

If we'd drafted Geno, chances are we'd be in for a couple more crappy seasons at a minimum, and even then he might not pan out. With Alex, we're able to at least be a fun team to watch for a couple years, and he might even surprise us and be good enough for us to truly compete in the playoffs. Hopefully, we'll still draft someone this year and can begin grooming him to take over in a few years. Regardless, I hope to at least be able to stomach watching games this year.

Alex isn't exciting, and I'm not a huge fan of how much we gave up to get him, but we HAD to bring in a vet of some sort this year. Expecting to start and be successful this year is just wishful thinking. Alex was the best vet QB available, so that makes it a decent (if not exciting) move.


You may now proceed to tell me all about how much of an idiot I am.
That simply isn't true anymore. Andy Dalton went to a much worse team, with an OC from the Arena league and went to the playoffs 2X in the AFCN.

FFS, Christian Ponder made the playoffs this year and that Vikings roster is a joke.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:17 PM   #13
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That simply isn't true anymore. Andy Dalton went to a much worse team, with an OC from the Arena league and went to the playoffs 2X in the AFCN.

FFS, Christian Ponder made the playoffs this year and that Vikings roster is a joke.
So our expectations of Geno are Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder? Yikes.
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So our expectations of Geno are Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder? Yikes.
Yeah, no kidding. Give me Alex Smith.
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So our expectations of Geno are Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder? Yikes.
Nice manipulation there.

Let me break it down for you, Sr. True-Fan.

If Andy ****ing Dalton can have success as a rookie playing in the toughest division in the NFL with a team arguably worse than ours, with a first year playcaller from the Arena League, then there is no reason why Geno, with our roster + Reid + a weak schedule couldn't have success initially.

Rookie QBs coming in and shitting the bed ala Clausen isn't the norm, it is the opposite. Just because you fail to realize or accept that the game is changing and has been for a while doesn't mean it's the same as it was in the 90s. .
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