Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

When presented with the opportunity to pick the best QB prospect available KC fans hope to trade down for some extra picks and eat from the QB leftovers.

But, mid round picks are what you build a franchise around!!!

David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Frankie

David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.

I will take the 12th best prospect at #1 if its a QB, if I hit my pick is better than the #1 prospect even if that guy becomes the best ever at his position.

The NFL is a QB driven league. Better to swing big and miss than to puss out and take a called strike 29.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I will take the 12th best prospect at #1 if its a QB, if I hit my pick is better than the #1 prospect even if that guy becomes the best ever at his position.

And thank God you are not the GM.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Frankie

And thank God you are not the GM.

apparently, the same could be said about you.

Have fun with Brady Quinn.

[pkane]

Originally Posted by Frankie

David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.

If you have Geno rated as #12 then there is no reason not to take him at #1 overall.

You would be good taking him at #7 if he graded out as the 12th best but the team that took him at #6 would be a desperate fool?

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by pkane

If you have Geno rated as #12 then there is no reason not to take him at #1 overall.

You would be good taking him at #7 if he graded out as the 12th best but the team that took him at #6 would be a desperate fool?

I keep telling people that BPA is curved with the QB position. If there's a Ray Lewis in the draft, but there's also a Troy Aikman, who do you take? Ray Lewis may be the better player, but Aikman provides far more to the team.

Same thing with Smith.

(not bashing Lewis btw, he's about as close as any ILB I've ever seen to sway my opinion on this)

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Three7s

I keep telling people that BPA is curved with the QB position. If there's a Ray Lewis in the draft, but there's also a Troy Aikman, who do you take? Ray Lewis may be the better player, but Aikman provides far more to the team.

Same thing with Smith.

(not bashing Lewis btw, he's about as close as any ILB I've ever seen to sway my opinion on this)

I'd still take Barry Sanders

[BIG K]

Originally Posted by Three7s

I keep telling people that BPA is curved with the QB position. If there's a Ray Lewis in the draft, but there's also a Troy Aikman, who do you take? Ray Lewis may be the better player, but Aikman provides far more to the team.

Same thing with Smith.

(not bashing Lewis btw, he's about as close as any ILB I've ever seen to sway my opinion on this)

Excellent post! This is how I feel about it as well. IIRC, Dorsey said in his first interview, and I watched it live, that he would take the BPA. I may over analyze a bit but, he did NOT say Best Athlete Available. There is a difference. Smith is not the best athlete avail but, I believe he is the best player avail in a position the team needs most. And with Reid's history of developing qb's?

How can one say Smith is not worthy of #1 but perhaps #7 or #12? With the new rookie contracts, I do not see the huge gamble as some would reference. We have our future LT already in the present. No position on the field would increase the chances of the Chiefs winning more than nailing it at QB.

Smith may fail, but I would rather try that then have a prospect at LT protecting someone else.....

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Frankie

David Carr and Tim Coach were "best QB prospect available" in their drafts. It doesn't mean shit.

Desperate drafting is not astute drafting. If after the combine it is clear that Geno is only the 12th best draft prospect, we better seriously see if we could trade down at least to 7 to get him and get some extra benefits. And we better have done our homework on the 2nd and 3rd best QB prospects, just in case some desperate fool takes Geno at 6.

Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.

Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?

[pkane]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Are you sure you know? you wanting to take Gino #1 damn the rankings or possible reach?

If he is the top rated QB and rated 12th overall then, yes screw the damn rankings. I don't get how it is a reach if the top QB is rated in the top 15 overall(by frankie mind you) and you take him at #1.

Would you call Big Ben a reach at #2 instead of drafting him at #11. I bet the Raiders wish they had taken a QB at #2 in that draft instead of a LT.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ok. I see now.

You don't know really know how the draft works.

Gotcha. I'll leave you alone now.

And you do? This is sad and funny rolled together. Mostly sad though.

[HolyHat]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

When presented with the opportunity to pick the best QB prospect available KC fans hope to trade down for some extra picks and eat from the QB leftovers.

But, mid round picks are what you build a franchise around!!!

[The Franchise]

Don't bring up Carr. He didn't bust because of lack of talent. He busted because the offensive line never gave him more than 2 seconds.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Don't bring up Carr. He didn't bust because of lack of talent. He busted because the offensive line never gave him more than 2 seconds.

I think he busted because of a lack of talent.

We've seen other QB's chosen early that found success on their second and third teams like Steve Young, Doug Williams and Jim Plunkett. Not to mention "lessor" talents like Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Steve DeBerg, etc. and so on.

The bottom line is that talent evaluators and Casserly ****ed up.