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Old 02-23-2014, 05:29 PM   #1
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I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:30 PM   #2
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I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.
Yeah, but still. If we draft a TE this year, he better be one who can take the top off of a defense. I don't want another slow and steady Fasano on the roster.

Know what I'm really interested in? Seeing if Demetrius Harris has developed at all with his year on the practice squad.

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Old 02-24-2014, 12:43 AM   #3
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Yeah, but still. If we draft a TE this year, he better be one who can take the top off of a defense. I don't want another slow and steady Fasano on the roster.

Know what I'm really interested in? Seeing if Demetrius Harris has developed at all with his year on the practice squad.
How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?
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Old 02-24-2014, 03:14 AM   #4
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How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?
There are various ways of doing it, I'm not just referring to pure speed when I say that.

Guys like Gronk, Graham, and Cameron are threats down field because they have just enough speed to outrun LBs and get 15-25 yards down the seem in under 3 seconds and then they have the size to box out and high point the ball over any DB that might be there.

Who can do that in this draft? ASJ and Amaro.

Then you have Walker and Davis who aren't particularly big or great at high pointing the ball but are able to just outrun coverages to get open deep. Too fast for LBs and too fast for most safeties and some CBs.

That's Burton, Lyerla, and Leonard.

And Ebron is a combination of both types of what I consider TEs who can take the top off of a defense: He has enough speed to win deep on that alone, but also the size ball skills to dominate at the point of the catch. He does have some concentration issues though when it comes to catching the ball; needs to work on it like VD did.
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:01 AM   #5
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I can't shake Fiedorowicz as my guy if we have to draft a TE. I don't think we have a shot at Ebron or Amaro, nor do I think it'll be worth drafting them in the 23rd with who we will have available. I think we can get Fiedorowicz extremely late in this draft, and he comes as one of the most well rounded guys at the position in the draft and comes from a pretty solid lineage of college TE's there at Iowa.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:23 AM   #6
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I can't shake Fiedorowicz as my guy if we have to draft a TE. I don't think we have a shot at Ebron or Amaro, nor do I think it'll be worth drafting them in the 23rd with who we will have available. I think we can get Fiedorowicz extremely late in this draft, and he comes as one of the most well rounded guys at the position in the draft and comes from a pretty solid lineage of college TE's there at Iowa.
CJ is the best TE out of Iowa since Marv Cook. He's just a freakish combination of size, speed, and catching ability.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:47 AM   #7
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CJ is the best TE out of Iowa since Marv Cook. He's just a freakish combination of size, speed, and catching ability.
Ehhhh, that's heavily debatable and I don't like Cook as a reference there since he's kind of iconic to my family (from Iowa, families are intertwined deeply lol).

Dallas Clark has been the most NFL productive since cook, Moeaki had the best combination of pass catching and blocking I've probably ever seen come out of Iowa at the TE position, just didn't have the durability, could have been a great one if he did. Brandon Myers has been fairly stout the last year or two in the NFL, wasn't nearly as good back at Iowa.

The person I think that really kind of fell off the radar who I thought would translate well to the NFL was Allen Reisner. Solid blocker, pretty good hands, pretty good size. Haven't really heard anything on him in the NFL.

I think CJ is that in between type, between Moeaki's talent, and Reisner's kindn of "Brick shithouse" toughness on the field. CJ's got quite a long way to go in the NFL, but he has a set of skills and is easily molded, I think he can do well in a WCO type, heavy on TE's. Will not be surprised one bit though, if he gets snatched up by New Orleans, New England, San Francisco, or Houston.
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How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?
Alex's old BFF Vernon Davis for one.
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Alex's old BFF Vernon Davis for one.
He's the only starting Te with a 4.3 that I know of...
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Old 02-23-2014, 07:34 PM   #10
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I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.
blocking can be coached.

As for recieving, I think Clay posted some PFF stats of all the chiefs receivers and that McGrath had a very low drop rate.
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