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Old 12-29-2012, 09:56 AM   #1
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Why is it acceptable to have a black star running back, a black star reciever, a black star linebacker (or 3), but suddenly this racist fan base would have a problem with a black qb?
They just havent seen him play so assume because he's black he's a running QB who will get hit a lot and have injury problems. That assumption is based on statistics, not because they hate black people. The word racism is thrown around far too often. The same people who assume a black QB is a running QB would also assume a white RB is going to be a downhill bruiser and not a quick. That doesnt mean they hate white people either.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:59 AM   #2
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They just havent seen him play so assume because he's black he's a running QB who will get hit a lot and have injury problems. That assumption is based on statistics, not because they hate black people. The word racism is thrown around far too often. The same people who assume a black QB is a running QB would also assume a white RB is going to be a downhill bruiser and not a quick. That doesnt mean they hate white people either.
Agreed. So it's more about stereotypes than racism. I truly believe that.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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Agreed. So it's more about stereotypes than racism. I truly believe that.
Stereotypes based on race are by definition, racist. It doesn't matter if they are perceived as positive or negative.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:08 AM   #4
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Stereotypes based on race are by definition, racist. It doesn't matter if they are perceived as positive or negative.
Yup.

The majority of racism I see has nothing to do with hate, or any such strong emotion. It has to do with little things, like lowered expectations.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:22 AM   #5
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Stereotypes based on race are by definition, racist. It doesn't matter if they are perceived as positive or negative.
I guess we have different definitions of racism then. When I hear someone is racist to me it means they are prejudice and dont think people who have a different skin color should have the same opportunities as them. If acknowledging statistical trends while also admitting exceptions makes you a "racist" then I guess Im a racist against my own race.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:36 AM   #6
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I guess we have different definitions of racism then. When I hear someone is racist to me it means they are prejudice and dont think people who have a different skin color should have the same opportunities as them. If acknowledging statistical trends while also admitting exceptions makes you a "racist" then I guess Im a racist against my own race.
Excellent logical intelligence !

But 'candyman' I warn you not to go there because 'intelligence and Progressives are an oxymoron.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:37 AM   #7
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Excellent logical intelligence !

But 'candyman' I warn you not to go there because 'intelligence and Progressives are an oxymoron.
Understanding of the English language is not 'progressive'. Don't be silly. Racism, prejudice, and bigotry mean different things.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:39 AM   #8
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Understanding of the English language is not 'progressive'. Don't be silly. Racism, prejudice, and bigotry mean different things.
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I guess we have different definitions of racism then. When I hear someone is racist to me it means they are prejudice and dont think people who have a different skin color should have the same opportunities as them. If acknowledging statistical trends while also admitting exceptions makes you a "racist" then I guess Im a racist against my own race.
Prejudice and racism are not the same thing.

People who are racist can have a prejudice against black people and then overtly display it and become a bigot.

Racism is passive, and most people are racist in one way or another.
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Agreed. So it's more about stereotypes than racism. I truly believe that.
Exactly. Stereotyping doesnt always = racism. I dont know why people cant separate the two. Racism is hate, stereotyping is natural based on real world observations and whether they like to admit it or not everyone does it. Doesnt mean they hate.
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Exactly. Stereotyping doesnt always = racism. I dont know why people cant separate the two. Racism is hate, stereotyping is natural based on real world observations and whether they like to admit it everyone does it. Doesnt mean they hate.
Racism is the belief that one race is superior in some way to another. In reality there is no such thing as 'race'. It's all nonsense based on a few physical features. Buying stereotypes out of ignorance (of a QB's ability for example) is a perfect example of racism.

It doesn't require hate of any kind actually. That's bigotry.

It drives me crazy how people, especially the media, constantly misuse these words.
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Exactly. Stereotyping doesnt always = racism. I dont know why people cant separate the two. Racism is hate, stereotyping is natural based on real world observations and whether they like to admit it everyone does it. Doesnt mean they hate.
Right on the mark !!!

Racists "always" SEE COLOR FIRST regardless of the facts whether they be a black panther racist/Farrakhan-Nation of Islam racist or a white KKK racist. In their demented racist world 'skin color MUST always come first' in order to keep the hate and the fires of denial lit at all times !! Just like our Progressive dominated media

People who stereotype are just uneducated/inexperienced to the real world facts of life.
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Agreed. So it's more about stereotypes than racism. I truly believe that.
Stereotypes can be inherently racist. And the stereotype about black QBs was/is that they lack the intelligence to play the position. Thus, they must out-athlete everyone else on the field.

This is obviously nonsensical bullshit.
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Stereotypes can be inherently racist. And the stereotype about black QBs was/is that they lack the intelligence to play the position. Thus, they must out-athlete everyone else on the field.

This is obviously nonsensical bullshit.
My guess is that when black QBs start winning SBs on a regular basis, all of this stupidity will stop. Until then there will always be those who's small minds wont allow them to look past a persons color
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