Chiefs What kind of HC do you want next? - Page 4

Chris Meck · 10-25-2012, 01:13 AM

I think you want a younger hotshot offensive coordinator, preferrably one that has demonstrated an ability to develop a young QB. For this reason, I am on the Jay Gruden bandwagon. He's done a great job with Dalton in Cinci.

Some people don't like him because he's Chucky's brother, but his resume is pretty great. He played the position (albeit college and lesser leagues), coached it, has been a championship head coach (albeit a lesser league) and now a successful NFL offensive coordinator working with a rookie starter at QB. Dalton is progressing nicely. He's also in his mid 40's and could conceivably coach 20+ years if it works out.

Kyle Shanahan is so young it worries me. Mike McCoy-I don't really get all the love. It's Peyton's offense now, so I don't credit him for what's happening now...and there's a reason Orton was benched for Tebow in the first place. I don't know. I'm not seeing it.

Seems to me that Jay Gruden is the perfect guy to draft and develop a QB. Our receiver corps fits a WC style perfectly. If Geno is not our guy (or is not available when we pick), but Barkley is, then this is even more of a slam dunk.

bowener · 10-25-2012, 01:31 AM

Clark is going to need to sell season tickets, so I think he is going to go after a big name coach that is a proven winner or a hometown favorite like Marty or his son.
Hell, he may go after Cowher since he will get a GM/coach combo; it may save him a few million a year... after all he is going to be paying Pioli for a year or two after canning his fat ass.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener

Clark is going to need to sell season tickets, so I think he is going to go after a big name coach that is a proven winner or a hometown favorite like Marty or his son.
Hell, he may go after Cowher since he will get a GM/coach combo; it may save him a few million a year... after all he is going to be paying Pioli for a year or two after canning his fat ass.

Cowher has never been a GM.

RunKC · 10-25-2012, 02:19 AM

Clark doesn't need to worry about getting a shiny new coach to sell tickets.

I guarantee you that if we draft a 1st round QB in April, fans will flock to buy season tickets and jerseys.

bricks · 10-25-2012, 02:40 AM

I think the Chiefs need a bad season. They need to get the top pick in the draft and hopefully score on a guys like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Then hire a coach like Cowher to fix the defense.

Those are the two best scenarios that can happen. We would have a much improved defense and quarterback to go along with really solid running game and offensive line.

Team isn't that far off. I think we would address the two most important components behind winning a bowl. That is, good quarterback play and top defense. That's my reason why I hope a scenario like this pans out. It needs to happen if our dreams are to see this team win a bowl.

shaggyshane · 10-25-2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks

I think the Chiefs need a bad season. They need to get the top pick in the draft and hopefully score on a guys like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Then hire a coach like Cowher to fix the defense.

Those are the two best scenarios that can happen. We would have a much improved defense and quarterback to go along with really solid running game and offensive line.

Team isn't that far off. I think we would address the two most important components behind winning a bowl. That is, good quarterback play and top defense. That's my reason why I hope a scenario like this pans out. It needs to happen if our dreams are to see this team win a bowl.

I gotta feeling Cowher will go to Carolina if he indeed leaves CBS.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-25-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks

Then hire a coach like Cowher to fix the defense.

For ****'s Sake, NO.

You hire a defensive coordinator and position coaches to "fix" a defense, not a head coach.

**007** · 10-25-2012, 02:47 AM

no retreads and no oldfarts.

heh, guess those are the same thing now.

King_Chief_Fan · 10-25-2012, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Pioli is fired, Romeo is shown the door (or in his case will probably retire).

What kind of coach do you want?

A veteran coach who has had success as a head coach before, like Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren or a Bill Cowher (I doubt he leaves TV so soon)?

or...

A young coordinator who has potential as a head coach, like Mike McCoy, Perry Fewell or Mike Zimmer?

I want a Jon Gruden type

htismaqe · 10-25-2012, 06:30 AM

NEITHER.

I want a coach who has been a head coach before but HASN'T won a Super Bowl.

Most of these guys make their mistakes at their first stop and win it all at their SECOND.

I don't want any coach that has already won a Super Bowl.

TEX · 10-25-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

NEITHER.

I want a coach who has been a head coach before but HASN'T won a Super Bowl.

Most of these guys make their mistakes at their first stop and win it all at their SECOND.

I don't want any coach that has already won a Super Bowl.

Interesting... Food for thought

**Rausch** · 10-25-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

NEITHER.

I want a coach who has been a head coach before but HASN'T won a Super Bowl.

I'd prefer the guy the has...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-25-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd prefer the guy the has...

Repeatedly.

Pioli couldn't bring Belicheat with him = Case closed.

**Rausch** · 10-25-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan

Repeatedly.

Pioli couldn't bring Belicheat with him = Case closed.

You're talking GM?

My bad. I was talking HC.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-25-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

You're talking GM?

My bad. I was talking HC.

That's what I meant. No Belicheat, no "Patriot Way".

10-25-2012, 01:13 AM	#1
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1744910	I think you want a younger hotshot offensive coordinator, preferrably one that has demonstrated an ability to develop a young QB. For this reason, I am on the Jay Gruden bandwagon. He's done a great job with Dalton in Cinci. Some people don't like him because he's Chucky's brother, but his resume is pretty great. He played the position (albeit college and lesser leagues), coached it, has been a championship head coach (albeit a lesser league) and now a successful NFL offensive coordinator working with a rookie starter at QB. Dalton is progressing nicely. He's also in his mid 40's and could conceivably coach 20+ years if it works out. Kyle Shanahan is so young it worries me. Mike McCoy-I don't really get all the love. It's Peyton's offense now, so I don't credit him for what's happening now...and there's a reason Orton was benched for Tebow in the first place. I don't know. I'm not seeing it. Seems to me that Jay Gruden is the perfect guy to draft and develop a QB. Our receiver corps fits a WC style perfectly. If Geno is not our guy (or is not available when we pick), but Barkley is, then this is even more of a slam dunk.
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10-25-2012, 01:31 AM	#2
bowener BAMF! Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $9549897	Clark is going to need to sell season tickets, so I think he is going to go after a big name coach that is a proven winner or a hometown favorite like Marty or his son. Hell, he may go after Cowher since he will get a GM/coach combo; it may save him a few million a year... after all he is going to be paying Pioli for a year or two after canning his fat ass. __________________ Main Entry: bowe·ner Pronunciation: \ˈbō-nər\ Function: noun Date: circa 2007
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2059611	Clark doesn't need to worry about getting a shiny new coach to sell tickets. I guarantee you that if we draft a 1st round QB in April, fans will flock to buy season tickets and jerseys.
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10-25-2012, 02:40 AM	#5
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9902559	I think the Chiefs need a bad season. They need to get the top pick in the draft and hopefully score on a guys like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley. Then hire a coach like Cowher to fix the defense. Those are the two best scenarios that can happen. We would have a much improved defense and quarterback to go along with really solid running game and offensive line. Team isn't that far off. I think we would address the two most important components behind winning a bowl. That is, good quarterback play and top defense. That's my reason why I hope a scenario like this pans out. It needs to happen if our dreams are to see this team win a bowl.
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10-25-2012, 02:47 AM	#8
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10-25-2012, 06:30 AM	#10
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	NEITHER. I want a coach who has been a head coach before but HASN'T won a Super Bowl. Most of these guys make their mistakes at their first stop and win it all at their SECOND. I don't want any coach that has already won a Super Bowl.
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