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View Poll Results: Who would Scott Pioli draft at #1?
Geno Smith 13 10.57%
Matt Barkley 77 62.60%
Tyler Wilson 9 7.32%
Landry Jones 20 16.26%
Tyler Bray 4 3.25%
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:58 PM   #1
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:01 PM   #2
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Barkley is barely 6-2 and has a questionable arm and limited mobility.

There is no way I take him #1.

I'd rather have Bray.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:16 PM   #3
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Barkley is barely 6-2 and has a questionable arm and limited mobility.

There is no way I take him #1.

I'd rather have Bray.
Wonder how many of Parcells qualifications Barkley meets?
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:26 PM   #4
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Wonder how many of Parcells qualifications Barkley meets?
All of them, since he's a 4-year starter, basically.

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He must be a three-year starter. . .because you want to make sure his success wasn't a fluke and to know that he has been "the guy" for a significant period of time.

He must have 23 wins. . .because big numbers don't mean a whole lot if you don't win.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:53 PM   #5
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All of them, since he's a 4-year starter, basically.
Kind of what I thought. That is our boy. Pioli will follow this.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:14 PM   #6
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Wonder how many of Parcells qualifications Barkley meets?
Look, I wouldn't be depressed if we picked up geno smith, but people need to stop acting like he's a matt ryan/RGIII hybrid. He's only 6'3, is estimated to run a 4.7 forty and has decent arm strength, not the vaunted john elway power. He's also been mediocre against good defenses.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:27 PM   #7
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Look, I wouldn't be depressed if we picked up geno smith, but people need to stop acting like he's a matt ryan/RGIII hybrid. He's only 6'3, is estimated to run a 4.7 forty and has decent arm strength, not the vaunted john elway power. He's also been mediocre against good defenses.
Only a legitimate 6'3"?

Can only run a 40 in 4.7?

And can hit receivers from all over the field?

(And no one has Elway arm power. Not Stafford, not Vick, not Favre, not nobody. But Geno can and has hit guys in stride at 50 yards. There hasn't been a single Chiefs QB ever who can do that. Ever.)

Yeah, I'll take Geno all day long.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:13 AM   #8
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He's also been mediocre against good defenses.
Ben Roethlisberger went to Miami, OH. Whenever his team faced against a BCS team, he got clobbered. He looked ****ing terrible.

Now West Virginia isn't Miami, OH, but Geno's team is clearly outmatched by the competition in the Big XII. He has zero offensive line help, no defense, and his coach is a reerun. And he's going up against some REALLY good defenses with that.

He hasn't been perfect, but I'll gladly take "pretty damn good" instead when perfection isn't available.

Man, behind Kansas City's offensive line with all kinds of protection? Chucking 50 yarders to Dwayne Bowe after Jamaal Charles just skull-****ed the defense and made them double down on stopping the run? The Chiefs haven't had a QB who can make defenses pay for their aggressiveness since... well, ever. Trent Green was excellent, but he didn't have Geno Smith's arm or his WRs.

Very quickly, teams are going to see exactly what Chiefs fans were talking about when they said, "If we only had a real QB." Geno Smith is that "real QB." You'll get a pretty good idea of what that means as early as his rookie year.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:12 AM   #9
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Ben Roethlisberger went to Miami, OH. Whenever his team faced against a BCS team, he got clobbered. He looked ****ing terrible.

Now West Virginia isn't Miami, OH, but Geno's team is clearly outmatched by the competition in the Big XII. He has zero offensive line help, no defense, and his coach is a reerun. And he's going up against some REALLY good defenses with that.

He hasn't been perfect, but I'll gladly take "pretty damn good" instead when perfection isn't available.

Man, behind Kansas City's offensive line with all kinds of protection? Chucking 50 yarders to Dwayne Bowe after Jamaal Charles just skull-****ed the defense and made them double down on stopping the run? The Chiefs haven't had a QB who can make defenses pay for their aggressiveness since... well, ever. Trent Green was excellent, but he didn't have Geno Smith's arm or his WRs.

Very quickly, teams are going to see exactly what Chiefs fans were talking about when they said, "If we only had a real QB." Geno Smith is that "real QB." You'll get a pretty good idea of what that means as early as his rookie year.
I agree with your stance. I'd love to have Geno Smith and I'll be happy if he becomes ''just'' a top 15 QB in this league.
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The Chiefs are terrible. They need to clean house and start over, as the awesome @saveourchiefs Twitter handle will tell you. They have to fire people in the front office, including Scott Pioli, who has done an awful job. They also need to find a franchise quarterback. Thanks to stupid plays, as seen on Monday night at Pittsburgh, they're currently projected to have a very early selection, which means they can draft either Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Smith is now atop the mock again in the wake of Matt Barkley's struggles, but I wouldn't rule out Barkley re-taking the No. 1 position in the future. It'll be a tight race until April.


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Old 11-14-2012, 09:05 PM   #14
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but he's not gonna take a QB. HE's gonna take that d-lineman from LSU and Cassel will be the starter next year.
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Probably more likely that Pioli trades down and picks Jones/Bray in round 2/late round 1, if Bray declares.
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