Chiefs Matt Barkley interview

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Andrew Lucks arm strength isn't Matt Stafford's or Jay Cutlers.

It is, however, well above average.

Matt Barkley's isn't. And that's exactly my point.

There's elite arm strength - the Stafford/Kaepernick/Cutler/Rodgers group.
There's good arm strength - all those people you claimed you could compare Barkely to - Eli, Brady, Luck, Romo
Then there are guys that have average arm strength that they have to work around - Peyton is the cream of that crop, then there's guys like Schaub and Rivers.

None of those guys list 'arm strength' as among their assets. They simply don't have it listed as a liability.

That's Matt Barkley's absolute best case scenario. And seeing as how he's had surgery on his throwing shoulder, yeah, it's fair for me to say "at best" because none of us have seen him throw a football since that damage was done.

You're just completely wrong here.

Drew Brees had surgery and probably has had a better arm since. Every case is unique so I can understand the worry. We'll see in the next few days.

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Drew Brees had surgery and probably has had a better arm since. Every case is unique so I can understand the worry. We'll see in the next few days.

Actually we won't.

Barkley isn't throwing until his pro-day at the end of March.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Actually we won't.

Barkley isn't throwing until his pro-day at the end of March.

Oh. Ok then. Well thats cool, more time to heal and put to bed all the haters.

DJ's left nut · 02-22-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Drew Brees had surgery and probably has had a better arm since. Every case is unique so I can understand the worry. We'll see in the next few days.

Jesus, the next time you start an argument based on an accurate premise will be the first.

No, Brees doesn't have a stronger arm than he had before he tore his damn rotator cuff. He did come all the way back from it, but he certainly didn't end up with a stronger one.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Jesus, the next time you start an argument based on an accurate premise will be the first.

No, Brees doesn't have a stronger arm than he had before he tore his damn rotator cuff. He did come all the way back from it, but he certainly didn't end up with a stronger one.

Brees was also considered a "weak" armed quaterback coming out of college. A lot of that could be attributed just to his size but nonetheless, question marks about his arm were there before his draft.

Now hes probably considered to be just outside of your "elite" level. So something had to happen in between college and now.

Its not completely uncommon in pro athletes. Pitchers have been known to have a "stronger" arm after surgery e.g. Smoltz, Hoffman...

DJ's left nut · 02-22-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Brees was also considered a "weak" armed quaterback coming out of college. A lot of that could be attributed just to his size but nonetheless, question marks about his arm were there before his draft.

Now hes probably considered to be just outside of your "elite" level. So something had to happen in between college and now.

Its not completely uncommon in pro athletes. Pitchers have been known to have a "stronger" arm after surgery e.g. Smoltz, Hoffman...

No he isn't. Who considers Brees to be a strong-armed passer? He's considered potentially the most precise passer in the NFL, but certainly not a guy with a big arm.

Brees is considered what he always has been considered - an undersized passer that has to operate in a particular type of offense to maximize his potential. You're trying to conflate short and weak armed. Nobody ever said Brees had a weak arm, they simply said he didn't have a strong arm, he was short and he came from a spread system in the days that the spread was not considered at all acceptable.

And despite all that, he was still the first pick of the 2nd round. He was clearly a well thought of prospect. His arm was seen then as it is seen now.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No he isn't. Who considers Brees to be a strong-armed passer? He's considered potentially the most precise passer in the NFL, but certainly not a guy with a big arm.

I know its bleacher report but since you've already admitted its all subjective anyways eh..

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ng-qbs/page/30