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Old 03-28-2013, 07:35 PM   #1
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Geno has as many tools for the position as I've seen out of anyone not named Luck over the past decade.

The criticisms that Prisco states are oddly similar to Aaron Rogers when he came out of college with the exception that Geno tries to put too much touch on the ball versus zip where Rogers tried to put too much zip on the ball versus touch.

However, the tools are there. It's not like a guy like Barkley who will never have the arm, or a guy like Glennon, who will never have the accuracy. Geno has both the arm and the accuracy and has exhibited the capability to do both in a game time situation.

The thing that Prisco mentions that is ultimately true was that WVU's offensive line was an absolute sieve. And that the Mountaineer defense was 117th out of 124th. Geno was throwing under pressure all game long, nearly every single game and he still passes for 71.2% completion and 42 TD's vs. 6 Ints. That's freaking ridiculous. His performances in the Marshall, James Madison, Baylor and Kansas games were things most QB's can't even do in practice against air.

A year or two under Reid's tuteledge and you'll see what an All-Pro QB is supposed to look like.
This. Geno is a high probability bet. He's not a sure thing, but he has the potential to be great.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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Geno has as many tools for the position as I've seen out of anyone not named Luck over the past decade.
No, he does not.

Not only does he lack the explosiveness of Cam Newton or RGIII in the run game and the arm strength of Kaepernick or Newton or Eli Manning, he has the personality of a dead Muppet.

The guy has no charisma, he has no "pizazz" and he has no sizzle.

You're smoking too much synthetic.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:35 PM   #3
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The guy has no charisma, he has no "pizazz" and he has no sizzle.
I didn't realize "charisma" was such a key quality in a player. Joe Flacco better give his ring back.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:55 PM   #4
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I didn't realize "charisma" was such a key quality in a player. Joe Flacco better give his ring back.
Brett Favre just oozed charisma and pizzazz.

"Uhhh... we played hard... ah tried ter move the chains... uhhh... talked ta chilly bout that... felt good... uhh... good game"
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:03 PM   #5
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Brett Favre just oozed charisma and pizzazz.

"Uhhh... we played hard... ah tried ter move the chains... uhhh... talked ta chilly bout that... felt good... uhh... good game"
Aaron Rodgers may have been in the running with Flacco for the goofiest looking uncle fester ****er ever until he won his titles and got his discount double-check commercials rolling. Much like Flacco in terms of winning changing the perception of a guy's personality.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:27 PM   #6
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I didn't realize "charisma" was such a key quality in a player. Joe Flacco better give his ring back.
Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees?

Duds, all of them.

No future in television, no charisma, nothing.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:28 PM   #7
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Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees?

Duds, all of them.

No future in television, no charisma, nothing.
What does any of that have to do with anything? The only charisma that matters for what we need is the kind in the huddle. And I doubt any of us can speak reliably about that for Geno or anyone else.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:06 PM   #8
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Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees?

Duds, all of them.

No future in television, no charisma, nothing.
Yep, draft me a whacky asshole that can make great commercials for prostate meds! Go **** yourself, McDumbass.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:58 PM   #9
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No, he does not.

Not only does he lack the explosiveness of Cam Newton or RGIII in the run game and the arm strength of Kaepernick or Newton or Eli Manning, he has the personality of a dead Muppet.

The guy has no charisma, he has no "pizazz" and he has no sizzle.

You're smoking too much synthetic.
Here's the thing.

You are full of shit.

You've become the same as the tools you been arguing with for years.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:23 PM   #10
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Here's the thing.

You are full of shit.

You've become the same as the tools you been arguing with for years.
Thanks.

That means a lot coming from a guy that thinks that an almost 29 year old Brandon Albert can still "put it together".

You're a loudmouth phony.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:33 PM   #11
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Thanks.

That means a lot coming from a guy that thinks that an almost 29 year old Brandon Albert can still "put it together".

You're a loudmouth phony.
**** off Dane.

You're a useless ****ing blowhard.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:43 PM   #12
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You're a loudmouth phony.
Are you a legit loudmouth?
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People should go back and read McNabbs scouting reports coming out. Tons of question marks....mainly because he was an option running QB. Andy Reid put a ton of work into him and made him get better. He always had accuracy flaws, but he got better.

Point is, if Reid was willing to do it once.....is he willing to try it again?
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:33 PM   #14
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But as far as a top-10 pick, I wouldn't do it. There are simply too many flaws in terms of what I want from my quarterback on the next level. There is growth potential with this kid, but that's not what you want when you draft a kid high in the first round. I just wanted to see more.


I'd seriously like to know who in this draft has done more at their respective positions than Geno has done at his.

Who are these mythical Top-10 guys that Geno doesn't fall into/can't beat out that have shown more potential at the next level for their position than Geno?

Werner? Jones? Lotulelei? Joeckel? Fisher? Jordan?

Sorry, but I don't see it.
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:54 AM   #15
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I'd seriously like to know who in this draft has done more at their respective positions than Geno has done at his.

Who are these mythical Top-10 guys that Geno doesn't fall into/can't beat out that have shown more potential at the next level for their position than Geno?

Werner? Jones? Lotulelei? Joeckel? Fisher? Jordan?

Sorry, but I don't see it.
This. It's like while all the other positions are being compared to each other (Fisher to Joekel) Geno's being compared to Drew Brees and Tom Brady.

Also ridiculous that everybody thinks that somebody at 1.1 should come in and start immediately. Why? Because everybody else will think we're dumb? Santa forbid we let our franchise cornerstone acclimate before getting thrown into a game - people that still think Cassel is serviceable will think we're being silly!

To me, Geno, purported warts and all, is the best player at the most important position in this draft. If somebody can present an argument against that statement, I'm willing to listen, but otherwise, kiss my shiny metal ass.

We can draft Geno at 1.1 or we can trade for picks and hope the QB next year is better AND that our picks are high enough that we can get him. Seems a far bigger gamble than just picking up Geno.
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