We better draft this mother****er

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It shouldn't be about "having money", it should be about the BPA for each position and drafting for the future.

Kendrick Lewis is about as dependable as a 1976 AMC Pacer and Abe Elam is done. The Chiefs need at least one safety from the draft and one in free agency. ILB is also a must.

Otherwise, the Chiefs are going to lose at lot of games 41-38.

Eh, ILB isn't a MUST, it's a need though. Again, I think Skov from Stanford in the 3rd or 4th would be a great pick.

I think Lewis was hurt all year, but we definitely need more depth back there.


I was actually a little bit impressed with Tyson Hartman late in the year on the back end.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Eh, ILB isn't a MUST, it's a need though. Again, I think Skov from Stanford in the 3rd or 4th would be a great pick.

So you're heading into 2013 with Derrick Johnson and Brandon Silar as your ILB?

Yeah, good luck with that.

Originally Posted by O.city

I think Lewis was hurt all year, but we definitely need more depth back there.

I was actually a little bit impressed with Tyson Hartman late in the year on the back end.

The secondary, outside of Berry and Flowers, sucked ass. The turnover won't happen in one offseason but there needs to be serious changes, if the Chiefs plan to compete for even 8-8 next year.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So you're heading into 2013 with Derrick Johnson and Brandon Silar as your ILB?

Yeah, good luck with that.



The secondary, outside of Berry and Flowers, sucked ass. The turnover won't happen in one offseason but there needs to be serious changes, if the Chiefs plan to compete for even 8-8 next year.

Siler? No. I just gave you an example of a guy who is, IMO, just as good as Teo skill wise at ILB.

There will be alot of turnover, but you don't have to sink high draft picks on every spot to get a good player.

Obviously, we have to lock up Bowe and Albert. But we are also going to have Jacksons money and Cassels money to use.

There are some intriguing options at FS in this years Free agency class that I would look at. Not specifically pay a guy high money, but for depth wouldn't be a bad idea.

There's always Byrd, from Buffalo, who is a great FS and young.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by O.city

Siler? No. I just gave you an example of a guy who is, IMO, just as good as Teo skill wise at ILB.

There will be alot of turnover, but you don't have to sink high draft picks on every spot to get a good player.

Obviously, we have to lock up Bowe and Albert. But we are also going to have Jacksons money and Cassels money to use.

There are some intriguing options at FS in this years Free agency class that I would look at. Not specifically pay a guy high money, but for depth wouldn't be a bad idea.

There's always Byrd, from Buffalo, who is a great FS and young.

People keep saying that Tyson Jackson will be released and Dorsey is a FA. That makes DE very important. If we lose both of our starting DE's we will have to use a high pick on DE.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

People keep saying that Tyson Jackson will be released and Dorsey is a FA. That makes DE very important. If we lose both of our starting DE's we will have to use a high pick on DE.

High pick?

No.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

High pick?

No.

I was meaning 2cd rounder.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I was meaning 2cd rounder.

First off, no one knows which defensive alignment the Chiefs will use. If they stay in the 3-4, they shouldn't spend anything higher than a 3rd rounder on a 5 tech, if even that.

If they switch to the 4-3, which I think would be a major setback considering the Chiefs have three linebackers in place to effectively run the 3-4, they can address that position in free agency.

There's no reason to spend a 2nd rounder on a DE, period.

Especially when they need a starting safety, ILB, two QB's and depth nearly everywhere.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

There will be alot of turnover, but you don't have to sink high draft picks on every spot to get a good player.

Who said anything about "high" draft choice? What the ****?

The position NEEDS to be addressed. You don't trade a 3rd rounder for a receiver IF you have three receivers under contract. As a matter of fact, the Chiefs shouldn't trade for a receiver, period. Too many needs at other positions.

Originally Posted by O.city

Obviously, we have to lock up Bowe and Albert. But we are also going to have Jacksons money and Cassels money to use.

Whatever. It's all about the signing bonus, not the "cap hit".

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Who said anything about "high" draft choice? What the ****?

The position NEEDS to be addressed. You don't trade a 3rd rounder for a receiver IF you have three receivers under contract. As a matter of fact, the Chiefs shouldn't trade for a receiver, period. Too many needs at other positions.



Whatever. It's all about the signing bonus, not the "cap hit".

It does need addressed.

Curious your feelings on any free agent spending this offseason?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Signing bonus?

The guaranteed money. Give a guy $30 million upfront spread it over 7 years and pay him $500k a year for the first few years. That's the way other teams constantly sign free agent talent.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The guaranteed money. Give a guy $30 million upfront spread it over 7 years and pay him $500k a year for the first few years. That's the way other teams constantly sign free agent talent.

Got it, I edited cause I figured thats waht you were talking about.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

It does need addressed.

Curious your feelings on any free agent spending this offseason?

Dude, it's too early to assess anything.

The Senior Bowl and Combines will provide some information. The first few days of Free Agency will provide some direction.

But until the Chiefs name their offensive and defensive coordinators and begin to assess the roster, it's silly, IMO, to attempt to address anything with a hypothetical.

And JFC, I forgot: CB is a MUCH more important need than DE, even if the Chiefs lose Dorsey and Jackson. FTR, Dorsey can go. Jackson can come back at a reasonable salary. If not, **** 'em both.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, it's too early to assess anything.

The Senior Bowl and Combines will provide some information. The first few days of Free Agency will provide some direction.

But until the Chiefs name their offensive and defensive coordinators and begin to assess the roster, it's silly, IMO, to attempt to address anything with a hypothetical.

And JFC, I forgot: CB is a MUCH more important need than DE, even if the Chiefs lose Dorsey and Jackson. FTR, Dorsey can go. Jackson can come back at a reasonable salary. If not, **** 'em both.

Gotcha.

Seems you are hoping we keep the 34?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, it's too early to assess anything.

The Senior Bowl and Combines will provide some information. The first few days of Free Agency will provide some direction.

But until the Chiefs name their offensive and defensive coordinators and begin to assess the roster, it's silly, IMO, to attempt to address anything with a hypothetical.

And JFC, I forgot: CB is a MUCH more important need than DE, even if the Chiefs lose Dorsey and Jackson. FTR, Dorsey can go. Jackson can come back at a reasonable salary. If not, **** 'em both.

There is no way the need for 1 CB is more important than the need of 2 DE. This is a QB driven league. We need DLine to go along with our current pass rush to disrupt the opponents QB play.
The good defenses always have a better front 7 than the secondary.