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With that analogy, the top 10 QB's of this draft should be taken unanimously as the top 10 picks. That is not how the draft works. You draft for what you need, what you could use, and you certainly draft guys out there that have a few question marks, but are known to be solid football players (BPA in later rounds). Just because we need a QB doesn't dictate us using it as our #1 pick, just yet. Like I said, if Albert is gone, LT is a lock for our #1 pick. Quote:
The point I brought up with Stanzi and the then current FO/Staff, was that we got a guy our HC liked and wanted to start the year before, a guy who came from Pioli's #1 scouted college, and after 2 years, he hasn't started a game. He's the best QB on the roster if you compare College to College, but we won't even give him a snap. In the last game of the season, in a season where all hope is lost because we lack a QB, you don't think, hey, maybe we should give our #3 guy a chance to play and take a shot at him actually being like the next Tom Brady, someone he was compared to in the draft. You can't fool yourself thinking Crennel and Pioli were the only ones to have input on that decision. As for the rest, I never said I was wanting to wait for the next "luck". I've already stated I want to get a QB in this draft, and early. I've been a big fan of drafting a QB in the last 5 drafts here because there are guys I legitimately want this team to draft because I think they'll fit well, and we don't always end up with them, but hey, I'm not the GM or Coach, I have no input here. What I did say, and I stick by it, is that I'll gladly spend that #1 draft pick on ANYONE, be it Te'o, Smith, or even an LT if we lose Albert, as long as we aren't making a huge "WTF?" mistake. As in, if Geno blows the combine up and ends up being the real deal in terms of metrics and elevates himself from the field of players, I'm all for it. I'll be pissed if he doesn't get picked. But if all of the QB class decides to shit the bed in the combine and pro days, and a guy like Te'o blows up, I'm going to be pissed that we would pick Geno, and not Te'O, because the selection will feel forced, dirty, as if our only reasoning to draft him, was because we haven't taken a chance on a QB in however long. That, right there, is the mentality I hate. The Mentality you are working from. Jacksonville did the same thing, do you think they liked their Gabbert selection? Gabbert was a much worse QB in college than Stanzi, and we've yet to play the kid. But, as the kids would put it, Jacksonville was "thirsty" for a QB, and they took a shot. Now look at their team, #2 draft pick this year. Done deal. I have, and I'm impressed, but having watched Pat White play a similar game in college, ending up a late round pick, and then going to play baseball, I'm a little skeptic on West Virginia/Virginia Tech QB's transitioning to the pros. I want to see Senior Bowl tape, Combine data, Pro Day workouts, before I jump on that bandwagon. |
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Taking a QB just because it is your weakest position on your team, with your first pick, does not guarantee that you drafted right. I'm all for drafting right. Again, if we lose Albert, its going to be LT, then QB, then CB in this draft. If we don't, then it'll likely be QB, then CB, then ILB. However, again, if Te'o separates himself so much that he is just the golden ****ing child of the sport, and no QB separates themselves, I'm taking Te'o with my first, and whoever fits our style in the 2nd. No questions asked. That right there, is smart drafting. Quote:
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A point about Cousins though, we haven't seen Stanzi play yet, but in College Stanzi ****ing clowned on Cousins all day every day, I wouldn't trade for Cousins at all because of the cost you'd incur from that ransom lol. Quote:
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I think you meant "You're" an idiot. I'm actually quite intelligent, thanks sweetheart. I realize that you are really mad and cannot understand the concept of rationalizing logic here, at least to the extent of my standpoint and trying to analyze every possible outcome here to make the RIGHT pick, not the Safe pick, but it is getting annoying listening to you call me an idiot when you cannot even grammatically form a sentence without major errors. That being said, you and I seem to be at an impasse, even before we get down to who or what we should draft. You seem to be under this idea that Luck is already better than everyone else in the league. Let me paint you a better picture, one easily digested. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees. Those are the three best QBs to ever play the position. They are all under contract coming off of good or great seasons, and will play next year. You're going to tell me that in the last 30 years there hasn't been a lock like Luck, who at the current state, is barely a top 20 QB in his rookie year, when a guy like Peyton Manning just came off of a Neck injury and is a top 5 QB at his age? You are going to say he wasn't a lock? Peyton Manning is the most cerebral QB to ever play this game, and only Tom Brady jumps ahead of him as the "best" in the argument. I'm the idiot, and you're saying there hasn't been a "luck lock" since Elway.......with Peyton Manning...........Peyton Manning in the picture. Peyton Manning we could have signed last year had we not had Pioli. And you call me the idiot when you forgot about Peyton Manning. Let that sink in. |
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So you quoted me and were talking to someone else... intelligence.
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Gee, that sounds a lot like the QB situation...and yet, you are criticizing people who want a QB because they feel that neither Quinn nor Cassel nor Stanzi is capable of playing it at an acceptable NFL level. Why would it be a LT when there are totally solid LT's to be found in this draft in the second round? See how it works? Don't be a disengenuos hypocrite. |
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