FA QB's: Brees, Harrington, McCown - Page 2

**jAZ** · 01-04-2006, 01:42 AM

We need a QBOTF. I also suspect that Joey Harrington will be available. I'm also hoping that with Brees' shoulder surgery SD will not put the franchise tag on him again and let him go in the offseason.

If so, he'd now come cheaper than he otherwise would have given his risk (and the Chad Pennington experience). He's my #1 QBOTF candidate at the right price.

Failing that, I'm hoping that Harrington gets a 2nd chance in KC. I also like Josh McCown a little. Certainly as a #2 or #3. I'm afraid we will end up with Jamie Martin again.

Anyway, this is the only list I've been able to find so far.

http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freea...sp?Position=QB

Anthony Wright UFA Ravens
Charlie Batch UFA Steelers
Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers
Chris Weinke UFA Panthers
Craig Nall UFA Packers
Damon Huard UFA Chiefs
Dave Ragone RFA Texans
Doug Flutie UFA Patriots
Drew Brees UFA Chargers
Jamie Martin UFA Rams
Jeff Blake UFA Bears
Jeff Garcia UFA Lions
Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers
Jon Kitna UFA Bengals
Josh McCown UFA Cardinals
Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers
Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets
Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals
Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins
Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks
Shane Matthews UFA Bills
Shaun Hill UFA Vikings
Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants
Todd Collins UFA Chiefs
Ty Detmer UFA Falcons
Vinny Testaverde UFA Jets

Any other options that might become available this year?

**Saulbadguy** · 01-04-2006, 08:19 AM

Just say YES to Seneca Wallace AND Sage Rosenfels!

jspchief · 01-04-2006, 08:24 AM

Seneca Wallace looked like complete shit against a crappy Packers D last week. I don't think he's pro starter caliber.

Rosenfels is interesing. He's had some success as a starter, but he's also had some brutal outings. I might consider him, but I also question why he got so few chances on a dolphins team that absolutely desperate for an improvement in QB play. Why would the Dolphins trade for Cleo Lemon if Sage was any good?

htismaqe · 01-04-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Just say YES to Seneca Wallace AND Sage Rosenfels!

sedated · 01-04-2006, 08:38 AM

The Falcons would be stupid to get rid of Shaub, since Vick sucks as a QB.

I liked Ragone out of college, but haven't seen what he has done in the pros (not like you can get an accurate read playing in Houston)

Hoover · 01-04-2006, 08:51 AM

Ramsey
McCown
Harrington
Carr

if you can get them at the right price. I really think we shoudl invest a 2nd or 3rd rounder this year and just go that route, especially is Saunders is the HC.

royr17 · 01-04-2006, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ

We need a QBOTF. I also suspect that Joey Harrington will be available. I'm also hoping that with Brees' shoulder surgery SD will not put the franchise tag on him again and let him go in the offseason.

If so, he'd now come cheaper than he otherwise would have given his risk (and the Chad Pennington experience). He's my #1 QBOTF candidate at the right price.

Failing that, I'm hoping that Harrington gets a 2nd chance in KC. I also like Josh McCown a little. Certainly as a #2 or #3. I'm afraid we will end up with Jamie Martin again.

Anyway, this is the only list I've been able to find so far.

http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freea...sp?Position=QB

Anthony Wright UFA Ravens
Charlie Batch UFA Steelers
Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers
Chris Weinke UFA Panthers
Craig Nall UFA Packers
Damon Huard UFA Chiefs
Dave Ragone RFA Texans
Doug Flutie UFA Patriots
Drew Brees UFA Chargers
Jamie Martin UFA Rams
Jeff Blake UFA Bears
Jeff Garcia UFA Lions
Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers
Jon Kitna UFA Bengals
Josh McCown UFA Cardinals
Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers
Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets
Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals
Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins
Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks
Shane Matthews UFA Bills
Shaun Hill UFA Vikings
Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants
Todd Collins UFA Chiefs
Ty Detmer UFA Falcons
Vinny Testaverde UFA Jets

Any other options that might become available this year?

Free Agent Quarterbacks

Anthony Wright UFA Ravens
Charlie Batch UFA Steelers - he really does suck
Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers - bucs wont let him go
Chris Weinke UFA Panthers - too old for a qb of the future
Craig Nall UFA Packers - needs to develop
Damon Huard UFA Chiefs - yep he sucks, pass
Dave Ragone RFA Texans - like this qb alot
Doug Flutie UFA Patriots - needs to retire
Drew Brees UFA Chargers - chargers wont let him go
Jamie Martin UFA Rams - pass
Jeff Blake UFA Bears - pass
Jeff Garcia UFA Lions - pass
Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers - pass
Jon Kitna UFA Bengals - pass
Josh McCown UFA Cardinals - could be a good qb
Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers - kinda intrigues me a bit
Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets - has alot of potential
Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals - he's finished
Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins - not too bad of a qb
Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks - not bad lookin choice
Shane Matthews UFA Bills - pass
Shaun Hill UFA Vikings - pass
Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants - pass
Todd Collins UFA Chiefs - 3rd string guy for chiefs
Ty Detmer UFA Falcons - pass
Vinny Testaverde UFA Jets - Pass (too old and should retire)

QB's the Chiefs Should look into
QB Dave Ragone
QB Jeff Smoker (DV liked him alot in the draft, potential is there)
QB Joey Harrington (if released)
QB Josh McCown
QB Ken Dorsey
QB Kliff Kingsbury
QB Sage Rosenfels
QB Seneca Wallace

or make a trade for

QB Matt Schaub of the Falcons

Brock · 01-04-2006, 09:30 AM

I don't get the fascination with Harrington. It's not like he didn't have anybody to throw to.

royr17 · 01-04-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't get the fascination with Harrington. It's not like he didn't have anybody to throw to.

No its just he didnt have any protection so that he could have time to throw.

htismaqe · 01-04-2006, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17

No its just he didnt have any protection so that he could have time to throw.

Not really. He makes REALLY bad decisions alot of the time.

royr17 · 01-04-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not really. He makes REALLY bad decisions alot of the time.

Alot of young quarterbacks do.

Chief Faithful · 01-04-2006, 10:18 AM

I have never seen McCown play. I'd like to know what you guys see in him.

I think Collins should be resigned, but I'd love to see the Chiefs sign Harrington. I think Harrington would be a good fit in KC and if I remember correctly Saunders really wanted Harrington the year he was drafted by Detroit.

Brock · 01-04-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17

Alot of young quarterbacks do.

He's been around long enough to know better.

He just isn't very good.

Cormac · 01-04-2006, 10:36 AM

My first choice would be Ragone. He was impressive in college and has all the physical tools. I think he'd be worth a chance. Having said that, he hasn't passed Tony Banks on the HOU depth chart, IIRC. Oh hell.

Other than that, I think Harrington could have success in the future. He definitely needs to get the hell out of Detroit anyway. He isn't immediate starter material, so he can sit while Trent plays out his career/contract. Then he should be ready. In the meantime, he'd be an excellent back-up option.

JMO.

farmerchief · 01-04-2006, 10:38 AM

I wouldnt mind the chiefs taking a flyer on Harrington, and or Carr if he becomes available. The must have some kind of talent to be drafted in the first round, most QB's do, unless your last name is Leaf.

ct · 01-04-2006, 10:41 AM

Brees, yes, but if he does leave via FA, he'll get a starting gig.

Harrington, yes, I still think Joey can be developed by a quality QB coach, which we have currently, but who knows next week.

McCown, no thanks.

I also like Sage Rosenfels.

01-04-2006, 01:42 AM
jAZ Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Casino cash: $9847493	FA QB's: Brees, Harrington, McCown We need a QBOTF. I also suspect that Joey Harrington will be available. I'm also hoping that with Brees' shoulder surgery SD will not put the franchise tag on him again and let him go in the offseason. If so, he'd now come cheaper than he otherwise would have given his risk (and the Chad Pennington experience). He's my #1 QBOTF candidate at the right price. Failing that, I'm hoping that Harrington gets a 2nd chance in KC. I also like Josh McCown a little. Certainly as a #2 or #3. I'm afraid we will end up with Jamie Martin again. Anyway, this is the only list I've been able to find so far. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freea...sp?Position=QB Anthony Wright UFA Ravens Charlie Batch UFA Steelers Chris Simms RFA Buccaneers Chris Weinke UFA Panthers Craig Nall UFA Packers Damon Huard UFA Chiefs Dave Ragone RFA Texans Doug Flutie UFA Patriots Drew Brees UFA Chargers Jamie Martin UFA Rams Jeff Blake UFA Bears Jeff Garcia UFA Lions Jesse Palmer UFA 49ers Jon Kitna UFA Bengals Josh McCown UFA Cardinals Ken Dorsey RFA 49ers Kliff Kingsbury RFA Jets Kurt Warner UFA Cardinals Sage Rosenfels UFA Dolphins Seneca Wallace RFA Seahawks Shane Matthews UFA Bills Shaun Hill UFA Vikings Tim Hasselbeck UFA Giants Todd Collins UFA Chiefs Ty Detmer UFA Falcons Vinny Testaverde UFA Jets Any other options that might become available this year?
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01-04-2006, 08:19 AM	#16
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01-04-2006, 08:24 AM	#17
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Seneca Wallace looked like complete shit against a crappy Packers D last week. I don't think he's pro starter caliber. Rosenfels is interesing. He's had some success as a starter, but he's also had some brutal outings. I might consider him, but I also question why he got so few chances on a dolphins team that absolutely desperate for an improvement in QB play. Why would the Dolphins trade for Cleo Lemon if Sage was any good? __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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01-04-2006, 08:51 AM	#20
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1518179	Ramsey McCown Harrington Carr if you can get them at the right price. I really think we shoudl invest a 2nd or 3rd rounder this year and just go that route, especially is Saunders is the HC.
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01-04-2006, 09:30 AM	#22
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	I don't get the fascination with Harrington. It's not like he didn't have anybody to throw to.
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01-04-2006, 10:18 AM	#26
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	I have never seen McCown play. I'd like to know what you guys see in him. I think Collins should be resigned, but I'd love to see the Chiefs sign Harrington. I think Harrington would be a good fit in KC and if I remember correctly Saunders really wanted Harrington the year he was drafted by Detroit.
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01-04-2006, 10:36 AM	#28
Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	My first choice would be Ragone. He was impressive in college and has all the physical tools. I think he'd be worth a chance. Having said that, he hasn't passed Tony Banks on the HOU depth chart, IIRC. Oh hell. Other than that, I think Harrington could have success in the future. He definitely needs to get the hell out of Detroit anyway. He isn't immediate starter material, so he can sit while Trent plays out his career/contract. Then he should be ready. In the meantime, he'd be an excellent back-up option. JMO.
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01-04-2006, 10:38 AM	#29
farmerchief Field General Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Freeport,Ks Casino cash: $2085067	I wouldnt mind the chiefs taking a flyer on Harrington, and or Carr if he becomes available. The must have some kind of talent to be drafted in the first round, most QB's do, unless your last name is Leaf.
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01-04-2006, 10:41 AM	#30
ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	Brees, yes, but if he does leave via FA, he'll get a starting gig. Harrington, yes, I still think Joey can be developed by a quality QB coach, which we have currently, but who knows next week. McCown, no thanks. I also like Sage Rosenfels.
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