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Old 07-29-2013, 11:11 AM   #1
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This is what we get for pinning all our Super Bowl hopes on a center who's about to turn 34. Maybe we can grind out a win or two without him, but I'm not optimistic.
Koppen is out for the year. He replaced J.D. Walton, who is out for the year. The third center, C.J. Davis was injured Saturday and didn't practice Sunday.

Joke all you want but center is an important position, especially to the QB.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:15 AM   #2
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Koppen is out for the year. He replaced J.D. Walton, who is out for the year. The third center, C.J. Davis was injured Saturday and didn't practice Sunday.

Joke all you want but center is an important position, especially to the QB.
Uh, no. Manuel Ramirez has been the starter throughout camp, even when Koppen was healthy. They've been planning on him starting for a while, because Koppen looked like he was going to retire. I've never even heard of C.J. Davis.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #3
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Uh, no. Manuel Ramirez has been the starter throughout camp, even when Koppen was healthy. They've been planning on him starting for a while, because Koppen looked like he was going to retire. I've never even heard of C.J. Davis.
This article from ABC 7 Denver disagrees

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/spor...ith-leg-injury
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #4
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This article from ABC 7 Denver disagrees

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/spor...ith-leg-injury
You can tell it's a quality article based on the fact that it doesn't even mention the guy who was expected to start all the way back in June.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=857...amp-as-starter
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:15 AM   #5
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Pretty sure those linemen are also just a part of the donks woe's, gotta admit Hef... its been a very inauspicious start so far.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:21 AM   #6
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Pretty sure those linemen are also just a part of the donks woe's, gotta admit Hef... its been a very inauspicious start so far.
So there's Von (who, in case you hadn't noticed, hasn't been suspended yet), and our backup center? Uh oh.

Sure, the FO drunks were stupid, but at this point those have nothing to do with the product on the field.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:16 AM   #7
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Also, Walton is not out for the year.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #8
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http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...cos?source=pkg

This article does state that Ramirez did work at Center during offseason workouts, prior to training camp.

But it also says he gave up 6 sacks in one on one situations last year, the highest on the team.


Manny Ramirez, who made 11 starts at right guard for Denver last year, was at center throughout offseason workouts before training camp. But when Walton was forced to have more surgery, Denver signed Koppen and he was quickly put into the starting lineup.

Ramirez, a powerful blocker in the running game, allowed six sacks in man-on-man situations last season, the highest total on the team. Many defensive coordinators in the NFL say the best way to unsettle quarterback Peyton Manning is with pressure up the middle, so any issues at center would certainly impact the Denver offense.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:24 PM   #9
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You don't bring in 33 year old linemen to be backups after you lose your starting center to ankle surgery.

That's just stupid.

I'll file that under "of course that's what they are gonna say"
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:46 PM   #11
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Manny Ramirez has a lot of attitude and no one wants him in baseball anymore so the donkos should......Oh wait...
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:49 PM   #12
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Losing Koppen hurts. Only good part is it happened early.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:53 PM   #13
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I find it interesting how the difference between "one dimensional liability against the run" and "one of our best players" was apparently a single fax.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:54 PM   #14
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The fax machine was on Dumervil not us. The Broncos waited until 2 minutes before the deadline before faxing the league that they were releasing him.
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:07 PM   #15
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The fax machine was on Dumervil not us. The Broncos waited until 2 minutes before the deadline before faxing the league that they were releasing him.
Horseface waited until 8 minutes before the deadline to send the contract to begin with. He ****ed up.

Horseface also tried to change the terms of the contract at the last second. So not only is he incompetent, he's a scumbag too.
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