Chiefs Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

BigChiefFan · 01-26-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan

In terms of the overall roster Pioli has done great.....It is the freaking QB position that has been his only issue IMO. How he runs the internal workings of One Arrowhead Drive I could care less if we are producing wins both in the regular season and in the playoffs. Fix the QB position Pioli!!!!

I agree. I think people are piling 40 years of frustration onto Pioli's shoulders. Good Lord he has had 3 ****in' years-Carl had close to two DECADES.

I also find it amusing that so many consider Pioli an ego-driven maniac, when it's all hearsay.

FringeNC · 01-26-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I agree. I think people are piling 40 years of frustration onto Pioli's shoulders. Good Lord he has had 3 ****in' years-Carl had close to two DECADES.

I also find it amusing that so many consider Pioli an ego-driven maniac, when it's all hearsay.

The problem is Pioli is apparently the only guy in the league who thinks Matt Cassel is a franchise QB. Being spectacularly wrong on the QB position makes it tough to have faith in the guy.

talastan · 01-26-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I agree. I think people are piling 40 years of frustration onto Pioli's shoulders. Good Lord he has had 3 ****in' years-Carl had close to two DECADES.

I also find it amusing that so many consider Pioli an ego-driven maniac, when it's all hearsay.

I can see your point....

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

The problem is Pioli is apparently the only guy in the league who thinks Matt Cassel is a franchise QB. Being spectacularly wrong on the QB position makes it tough to have faith in the guy.

This is more in line with where I stand though.....

BigChiefFan · 01-26-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

The problem is Pioli is apparently the only guy in the league who thinks Matt Cassel is a franchise QB. Being spectacularly wrong on the QB position makes it tough to have faith in the guy.

I don't look at it that way at all. Hell, they had Bledsoe and continued to draft QBs.

I also look at it in context-we had Brodie "no longer in the league" Croyle and Tyler(3rd string)Thigpen. Given the circumstances, for a 2nd rounder he attempted to upgrade the position and actually did, unless someone wants to argue we'd be better served with Croyle or Thigpen at the helm. Those were the choices.

Brock · 01-26-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I don't look at it that way at all. Hell, they had Bledsoe and continued to draft QBs.

I also look at it in context-we had Brodie "no longer in the league" Croyle and Tyler(3rd string)Thigpen. Given the circumstances, for a 2nd rounder he attempted to upgrade the position and actually did, unless someone wants to argue we'd be better served with Croyle or Thigpen at the helm. Those were the choices.

Bringing in Cassel as a stopgap isn't the major crime here. Putting next to nothing in the line of succession is.

BigChiefFan · 01-26-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Bringing in Cassel as a stopgap isn't the major crime here. Putting next to nothing in the line of succession is.

I agree, but is that enough to let the good he has done, outweigh it?

Also, there is a player on the team named Stanzi, it isn't exactly like he ignored it.

Brock · 01-26-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I agree, but is that enough to let the good he has done, outweigh it?

Also, there is a player on the team named Stanzi, it isn't exactly like he ignored it.

Right, but if Stanzi is, even at this early point in his career, not a better option than Tyler Palko? Which I do not believe, but they still didn't put him on the field. What was Palko doing on an NFL team?

htismaqe · 01-26-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Right, but if Stanzi is, even at this early point in his career, not a better option than Tyler Palko? Which I do not believe, but they still didn't put him on the field. What was Palko doing on an NFL team?

He was Haley's little buddy.

BigChiefFan · 01-26-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Right, but if Stanzi is, even at this early point in his career, not a better option than Tyler Palko? Which I do not believe, but they still didn't put him on the field. What was Palko doing on an NFL team?

I think Palko was a huge mistake, but I believe who starts is on the head coach, not the GM.

Pioli made a huge mistake in assuming Palko was coached up in New England, by putting too much faith in them, but I understand the viewpoint of starting Palko over Stanzi.

Coaches are in win-now-mode. Does it stand to reason, to think that a player who has been training in the NFL longer, probably gives you the best shot to win over a rookie, especially one drafted in the 5th round?

suds79 · 01-26-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Also, there is a player on the team named Stanzi, it isn't exactly like he ignored it.

Ehh that's debatable. When you have a QB like Matt Cassel and trying to 5th round yourself a Tom Brady isn't exactly handling the problem.

Have to invest more. I'm willing to give him this offseason to see what he does to try to strengthen the QB competition.

Chiefnj2 · 01-26-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I don't look at it that way at all. Hell, they had Bledsoe and continued to draft QBs.

I also look at it in context-we had Brodie "no longer in the league" Croyle and Tyler(3rd string)Thigpen. Given the circumstances, for a 2nd rounder he attempted to upgrade the position and actually did, unless someone wants to argue we'd be better served with Croyle or Thigpen at the helm. Those were the choices.

Choices:

Draft Sanchez or Freeman with a 1st.
Draft Tebow in the 1st, or Clausen in the 2nd, or McCoy in the 2nd or 3rd.

They realistically weren't going to take a QB in the 1st or 2nd this year after Cassel made the Pro-Bowl.

BigChiefFan · 01-26-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Choices:

Draft Sanchez or Freeman with a 1st.
Draft Tebow in the 1st, or Clausen in the 2nd, or McCoy in the 2nd or 3rd.

They realistically weren't going to take a QB in the 1st or 2nd this year after Cassel made the Pro-Bowl.

Besides Freeman, I wouldn't have drafted any of those players, either. Even then, I never viewed Freeman as a franchise QB, but more as a project and I certainly wouldn't have taken him at our pick.

Ever hear the term, better the devil you know, than the devil you don't know?

Coogs · 01-26-2012, 11:41 AM

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I agree. I think people are piling 40 years of frustration onto Pioli's shoulders. Good Lord he has had 3 ****in' years-Carl had close to two DECADES.

I also find it amusing that so many consider Pioli an ego-driven maniac, when it's all hearsay.

I hate to say this, but I almost prefer Peterson. After his 3rd year there wasn't anything surrounding the Chiefs like the doom and gloom that is there now.

Chiefnj2 · 01-26-2012, 11:43 AM

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I hate to say this, but I almost prefer Peterson. After his 3rd year there wasn't anything surrounding the Chiefs like the doom and gloom that is there now.

There is this much doom and gloom because people are carrying the frustration of "no playoff win since 93". 3 years of that is on Pioli, 16 years of it are on Peterson. But hey, feel free to think those 16 years were better.

Coogs · 01-26-2012, 11:46 AM

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There is this much doom and gloom because people are carrying the frustration of "no playoff win since 93". 3 years of that is on Pioli, 16 years of it are on Peterson. But hey, feel free to think those 16 years were better.

There were times during those 16 years where I thought we might win it all.