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Old 09-24-2012, 08:24 PM   #1
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Define "they" because "they" sound like ****ing reeruns.

I wouldn't touch Jones ever. I just don't see "it". But that said, nobody should draft that guy. Watch his stupid shovel pass/fumble attempt. It reeks of pure Cassel.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:31 PM   #2
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I believe I was the first to make the Barkley/Cassel comparison - Last year early in the season based on 2010 footage. He has come a long way in his decision making and response to pressure since then.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:34 PM   #3
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:32 PM   #4
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I see Barkley as similar to Matt Ryan. Good arm, but not a cannon, can effectively go through progressions and spread the ball around and attack the whole field.

Geno Smith isnt as dynamic as RG3, but there are lots of similarities in their games/skillsets. He has enough speed and instinct to make defenses pay if they try to run too much man coverage and can shred a zone with his arm.

I see Wilson as a lesser version of Rivers...similar arm and game demeanor...opposing teams can get in his head and he is very hot/cold.

Landry Jones is a stronger armed Cassel that needs everything around him to be clicking
to be effective. When Broyles went down, he fell apart. As others mentioned, his game against k St was awful.

Geno Smith should be targeted by us and could flourish with the weapons we have.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:34 PM   #5
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I see Barkley as similar to Matt Ryan. Good arm, but not a cannon, can effectively go through progressions and spread the ball around and attack the whole field.

Geno Smith isnt as dynamic as RG3, but there are lots of similarities in their games/skillsets. He has enough speed and instinct to make defenses pay if they try to run too much man coverage and can shred a zone with his arm.

I see Wilson as a lesser version of Rivers...similar arm and game demeanor...opposing teams can get in his head and he is very hot/cold.
I think the Chiefs are a super bowl contender with either of those 3 guys.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:34 PM   #6
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I got burned last year when I said Jones would probably fall to the third round.

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Old 09-24-2012, 08:55 PM   #7
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I don't pretend to think I know who the most prototypical NFL QB is coming out in next year's draft. I don't get paid millions of dollars to make those decisions. I just wish our front office would take a chance on someone, and hopefully that someone (1st or 2nd round pick please) ended up paying off and made us a contender every year. There's no use or arguing who is or isn't that guy, cause there's no guarantee we're getting one of those two anyway. Still doesn't mean there won't be more than 2 successful QBs that come out of next year's draft class. Just try, and hopefully get it right.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:50 PM   #8
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We need to draft a QB in the first round this year and we will have to roll the dice that whomever we pick up is good. There are no sure fire QBs this year like Luck nor a QB who is a tiny step behind him in RGIII. Every QB coming out this year will have question marks. This team needs to just go for it instead of talking themselves out of any of them because of their "weaknesses".
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:14 AM   #9
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Meanwhile, Matt Ryan looks better than ever under Dirk Koetter (who couldn't get much out of Gabbert) and Gabbert looks better under Mike Mularkey (who had hit a ceiling with Ryan).

Sometimes, players need a new voice. Well, unless that player is Matt Cassel.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:54 PM   #10
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Walter also had us taking RGIII at this point last season, IIRC.

We saw how that worked out.

There will be plenty of scouts that like this kid enough to push him into the top 5, IMO. There's no way we get him at 10.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:59 PM   #11
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Walter also had us taking RGIII at this point last season, IIRC.

We saw how that worked out.

There will be plenty of scouts that like this kid enough to push him into the top 5, IMO. There's no way we get him at 10.
And I've got no issue with us trading a bunch of picks to get him.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:01 PM   #12
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No way Geno falls to 10, even if the guys in front of us don't need a QB and wouldn't draft him, you know someone else would trade up to take the 2nd overall QB in the draft this year.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:23 PM   #14
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Look at the teams who will likely be picking in the top 10

Colts
Rams
Raiders
Dolphins
Browns


All those teams have QB's. Chiefs are in a good position can go 9-7 and still get a franchise guy.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:40 PM   #15
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Look at the teams who will likely be picking in the top 10

Colts
Rams
Raiders
Dolphins
Browns


All those teams have QB's. Chiefs are in a good position can go 9-7 and still get a franchise guy.
Raiders wouldn't pass one up.
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