Dorsey shares a few thoughts on the QB class

[Quesadilla Joe]

From Albert Breer's MMQB column.


http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/06/m...owns-nfl-draft

Spoiler!

After spending a week in Indianapolis, and four days last month in Mobile, I’d tell you there are five quarterbacks with a shot at going in the first round—Notre Dame’s DeShone Kizer, Texas Tech’s Pat Mahomes, North Carolina’s Mitchell Trubisky, Clemson’s Deshaun Watson, and Cal’s Davis Webb.

In what order, I don’t know. And I don’t think NFL teams have that figured out yet, either. But some themes to the class have emerged.

“First off, what stands out, I think there’s only one guy that’s ever taken a snap from under center,” Chiefs GM John Dorsey told me. “How about that one? It shows how we’re evolving into a spread-option era. Then, what you have to analyze is can they spit out a play in the huddle? If you look at the majority of these guys, everybody’s signaling everything in from the sideline.

“These are the types of things people are looking for as they sit and they talk to these players. Can they sit and regurgitate an offensive play? That’s hard to do, especially in (our) system, it’s really hard to do. But on the whole, they’re a more athletic group.

“Are there any finished products here? I don’t think so. So where are the warts, and are you willing to live with the warts? That’s what people are asking.”

I then asked Dorsey if any of the quarterbacks are ready to play. He smiled and said, “Me personally?” Then a long pause, another smile, and a “No.”

Again, that doesn’t mean there’s not plenty to like with the group, and more to dissect. So I asked one AFC personnel director to break down for me what he saw from the quarterbacks. He missed Webb, but got the other four. Here are his notes, with the caveat he wanted to emphasize—these guys are throwing different routes to receivers they don’t know …

• Kizer: Big, strong, good arm and velocity. Smooth release. Inconsistent feet, timing and accuracy. Had the same misses on multiple reps.

• Mahomes: Tight release, but thought he would be more consistent and better throwing deep.

• Trubisky: Athletic, good arm strength. Some inconsistency in accuracy and timing and deep ball.

• Watson: Very consistent, athletic. Easy motion. Easy ball to catch.

A winner for the week? It was Watson. He blew teams away in interviews to the point where I know a couple clubs that weren’t wild about him were anxious to go back and take a second look at the tape to see if they missed on their evaluation. And his field work was very good.

I wrote last month that Trubisky was the leader to be the first quarterback taken, and I still think that’s probably the likelihood. But Watson has gained some ground.

[tk13]

This discussion is probably the most overrated hot take about the draft there is. Good GMs find talent regardless of draft position. Now if you're talking about a generational player at #1 overall, then that's a different story. But teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh find good players, QBs, WRs, DEs... no matter where they draft. It's why they are successful every year, while the Browns and Jaguars have spent a decade in the cellar despite picking high every single year.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The whole 'secret meetings with Marcus Peters so teams wouldn't know the Chiefs liked him' thing wasn't good enough for you?

And the smart money was on Joekel in the Fisher draft. When did he tip his hand at all on the Ford pick?

In short, precisely what the **** are you talking about?

This is precisely what I have picked up from Dorsey and have stated in the past is who he is not talking to in public is who he likes and who does he like this year that is not on the invite list to Arrowhead?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

GREAT rebuttal, Sir ****lestick!

It's all your 'response' deserved.

You're welcome to wallow in your ignorance; that's your cross to bear.

You very obviously have no idea what you're talking about and I have no inclination to educate the militantly ignorant.

[19now11]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Yes, let's continue to stay put and let the board fall as it will. That has worked out SO well in finding quarterbacks. If we pass on a guy this year do you think we'll magically be in position to take one next year? We'll again be out of reach of the top guys and will be left looking at Dorsey's "projects" again. There will still be people saying to wait and it's too risky.

man football sure is fun when you like your qb! go alex smith!

[Chiefnj2]

Dorsey always drafts the guy whose dick flops out during the 40.

[Mother****erJones]

I laughed at this when I saw this. Dorsey is at the end of the 1st round. He needs QBs he likes to slip. He's not going to tip his hand...never has

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Please stop with this fantasy. Or, will someone "bait" Dorsey in to drafting a QB? Please?



What are you babbling about?



EVERYONE knew they were going fatty with that pick. Reid said as much before the draft. That they picked the polka-dotted fatty over the striped one means jack-shit.

CLEARLY an alternate pick, as all the good receivers were gone.



Exactly what I said; they broadcast their every move and hide nothing.

My sources are spot ****ing on dude

[Mr. Laz]

This draft is too loaded with defensive talent for the Chiefs to package a bunch of picks to move up for a QB. Just not going to happen.

I have to really wonder why the Chiefs gave all that money to Berry since there is a ton of DB talent. Berry probably wouldn't have gotten that much on the open market with all the safeties available in the draft.

I'd say 'goodbye sorenson' as well but since Reid falls in love with players he will probably be kept too.

Reid loves the status quo.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by wazu

This is just current news. Sad, depressing commentary from our GM. Long live the regular season.

Is he wrong? Please elaborate on why you think he is wrong.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Prescott and Bridgewater (who was developing nicely before his injury)

Uh, no. Bridgewater's biggest red flag was that he had narrow knees and he was a huge injury risk. Lo and behold, one day in practice, his leg decided to turn itself into a pretzel.

Dak I can agree with, but every GM missed that one at least twice, so I'm not going to knock him for that.

Carr is really the only miss.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by tk13

This discussion is probably the most overrated hot take about the draft there is. Good GMs find talent regardless of draft position. Now if you're talking about a generational player at #1 overall, then that's a different story. But teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh find good players, QBs, WRs, DEs... no matter where they draft. It's why they are successful every year, while the Browns and Jaguars have spent a decade in the cellar despite picking high every single year.

Excellent post. I'd also like to mention coaching plays a huge part too. Steelers and Ravens do a good job hiring the right HCs and coaching staff which plays a role in developing rookies.