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Old 03-12-2014, 02:09 PM   #1
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Agreed.

It was tuned down, slowed down, and of course Ozzie had unique imagery in his vocals... but yeah that's pretty much on point. That's why I love 'em.
I like Ozzy immensely. Don't get me wrong, for me Dio Sabbath is 1a and Ozzy Sabbath is 1b (and Dio and Ozzy solo are 1c and 1d really). There's not a ton of separation.

But like I said, I like a lot of classical music and those types of arrangements. Tony Iommi said it best:

"Dio would sing across the riff, whereas Ozzy would follow the riff, like in "Iron Man". Ronnie came in and gave us another angle on writing."
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:33 PM   #2
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I like Ozzy immensely. Don't get me wrong, for me Dio Sabbath is 1a and Ozzy Sabbath is 1b (and Dio and Ozzy solo are 1c and 1d really). There's not a ton of separation.

But like I said, I like a lot of classical music and those types of arrangements. Tony Iommi said it best:

"Dio would sing across the riff, whereas Ozzy would follow the riff, like in "Iron Man". Ronnie came in and gave us another angle on writing."
Again, Ronnie is/was very talented.

It's just that I find what he does annoying. It's the pitch of his voice... that whole style of singing. I can't stand it. I know it's hard and I know they're hitting high notes and their voice is an instrument and part of the arrangement. It's simply that it annoys the ever lovin' hell out of me.

To the guys in Sabbath (except Geezer) simply wanted a better singer than Ozzy. He was, for the most part, uninvolved in the entire process. I mean Geezer wrote the lyrics. Ozzie just did the vocal melodies. Ozzie had no input on the song structure or arrangement, whereas Ronnie did.

Ronnie was far more talented than Ozzy, but even knowing that his voice is still annoying as hell to me.
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:43 PM   #3
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Again, Ronnie is/was very talented.

It's just that I find what he does annoying. It's the pitch of his voice... that whole style of singing. I can't stand it. I know it's hard and I know they're hitting high notes and their voice is an instrument and part of the arrangement. It's simply that it annoys the ever lovin' hell out of me.

To the guys in Sabbath (except Geezer) simply wanted a better singer than Ozzy. He was, for the most part, uninvolved in the entire process. I mean Geezer wrote the lyrics. Ozzie just did the vocal melodies. Ozzie had no input on the song structure or arrangement, whereas Ronnie did.

Ronnie was far more talented than Ozzy, but even knowing that his voice is still annoying as hell to me.
Ronnie's voice is annoying but Ozzy's isn't? I find that strange.
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Ronnie's voice is annoying but Ozzy's isn't? I find that strange.
Ozzy may try to sing in a similar style, but he's so bad that he can't get to that high pitch that annoys me and Ronnie seemed to really enjoy STAYING there all the damn time. He doesn't have to, but I guess adding some bass to it wasn't his thing. He could have, because his voice was quite literally an instrument for music.

Again man, it's personal taste. I'm sure if I quizzed you enough you'd say something that made no sense to me too. It's weird like that.

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Old 03-12-2014, 09:18 PM   #5
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Ozzy may try to sing in a similar style, but he's so bad that he can't get to that high pitch that annoys me and Ronnie seemed to really enjoy STAYING there all the damn time. He doesn't have to, but I guess adding some bass to it wasn't his thing. He could have, because his voice was quite literally an instrument for music.
And I mean this with absolutely no offensive intent...

It's clear to me you haven't heard much Dio. Not that you should have if you don't like him. I don't expect anybody to listen to something they don't like.

Ronnie has a dynamic range and there's a lot of songs that he sings in lower registers. A lot actually. Example "Children of the Sea"

Ozzy actually sings predominantly in a much higher pitch than Ronnie. Much higher. Example "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"

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Again man, it's personal taste. I'm sure if I quizzed you enough you'd say something that made no sense to me too. It's weird like that.
No, it's cool. Talking about music is fun. Nobody likes all of the same things. That would be creepy.
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