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Old 06-08-2012, 06:58 AM   #1
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Four years is way too small a sample size to definitively say "two 10-win seasons means you're a winner, bro!"

How about...go back as far as 2000...and see which QBs had two 10+ win seasons in their career. And see what it really means.

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Chad Pennington
Kerry Collins
Jake Delhomme
Philip Rivers
Matt Hasselbeck
Brett Favre
Tony Romo
Steve McNair
Donovan McNabb
Carson Palmer
Jake Plummer
Trent Green
Rich Gannon
Brad Johnson
Jeff Garcia
Kurt Warner
Kordell Stewart
Vinny Testaverde
Jay Fiedler

So yeah...you could go for a really small sample size and compare Matt Cassel to some pretty good quarterbacks, some awesome quarterbacks.

Or maybe he's just a piece of shit like Kordell Stewart or any of the other quarterbacks I bolded.

Two 10+ wins seasons isn't a barometer for shit, Brian Daboll.
Yeah, Cassel belongs in that group you highlighted. Borderline starters. Better than the likes of Thigpen, who now is a third stringer, but not good starting QBs.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:51 AM   #2
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Actually Cassel is one of the best quarterbacks in the league when he has Charles running the ball.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:56 AM   #3
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Actually Cassel is one of the best quarterbacks in the league when he has Charles running the ball.
he had Charles running the ball vs Baltimore in the wild card game.

i think he was one of the best quarterbacks in the league when he plays the NFC West.

he's had an 11 win season and a 10 win season when he plays them.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:01 AM   #4
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So all we have to do is get the commish to agree to let the Chiefs play the NFC west twice every year?

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:05 AM   #5
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So all we have to do is get the commish to agree to let the Chiefs play the NFC west twice every year?

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if Cassel stays as the Starter, Yes.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:17 AM   #6
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Well given peeholy's man crush on Matty, we're stuck with that turd for at least 1 more year. If the rest of the team can cover up for shitty QB play and somehow get to the playoffs, he may even get an extension (God help us all)
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:20 AM   #7
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So, a few months ago, Pioli was pushing the "open competition at quarterback" idea. Now you can see how it's slowly turning into Cassel being the starter no matter what (something many here predicted anyway), with Quinn and Stanzi battling for the second spot.

****ing shit. I bet if we had signed Manning, we'd have put him at second string.
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:14 PM   #8
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So, a few months ago, Pioli was pushing the "open competition at quarterback" idea. Now you can see how it's slowly turning into Cassel being the starter no matter what (something many here predicted anyway), with Quinn and Stanzi battling for the second spot.

****ing shit. I bet if we had signed Manning, we'd have put him at second string.
I have never read where Pioli said the QB position would be "open competition". I have read where he said he wanted some competition at the position. There is a huge difference.

Where has he ever said there would be an "open competition"? Please provide the link, I have read that 100 times now but I have never seen where this was stated by Pioli.

I can't really stand Pioli but I can't stand things being quoted as fact that simply aren't accurate either. This "open competition" statement appears to be another CP urban legend unless I have totally missed something.
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:32 PM   #9
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I have never read where Pioli said the QB position would be "open competition". I have read where he said he wanted some competition at the position. There is a huge difference.

Where has he ever said there would be an "open competition"? Please provide the link, I have read that 100 times now but I have never seen where this was stated by Pioli.

I can't really stand Pioli but I can't stand things being quoted as fact that simply aren't accurate either. This "open competition" statement appears to be another CP urban legend unless I have totally missed something.
Competion/Open Competition. Who cares. He said he wanted to bring in competition at QB and he brings in Quinn. Something doesn't add up. Quinn was never going to be competition for Cassel.
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:37 PM   #10
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Competion/Open Competition. Who cares. He said he wanted to bring in competition at QB and he brings in Quinn. Something doesn't add up. Quinn was never going to be competition for Cassel.
IMO there is a huge difference between stating you want "competition" at the position and there is going to be "open competition" which is what people keep saying.

Competition may simply imply you want somebody who can push the starter, in this case Casshole. And in this case I think he has that form of competition from 2 guys unlike last year.

An "open competition" implies the starting QB position is open and unsettled. Pioli has stated many times Casshole is the starter.

I like most of CP would love for the starting job to be an open competition, but I don't believe Pioli ever said that was the case.
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:26 AM   #11
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yep Pioli and Daboll can polish all they want but Cassel's still gonna be a turd.
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Yet all he does is lose lately. 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out. Then Orton comes in and we start moving the ball and pick up a couple wins.

yep, Cassel is a winner.
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