Life Student Stands up to Crappy Teacher - Page 9

Bump · 05-10-2013, 11:52 AM

I like this kid.

I already know the reaction it's gonna get here but oh well...

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and im not totally sure that guy said little baby.

the laughing might not have even been "at him" the students could be laughing at the situation, or even the teacher

it doesn't really matter if every kid in there agreed with him

we (adults) can't see what led up to his outburst

There is almost no scenario where that type of outburst is acceptable or will produce better results than acting in a rational way without insulting the teacher and disrupting the class.

I'm going to go with the odds here.

Just Passin' By · 05-10-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I guess we'll have to disagree on this.

I value real life experience greatly, maybe you don't.

If Donger told me what life was like living in the slums Europe, i wouldn't disagree with him, because he's lived it and he would know best.

If Donger, a Suburban white man, were to try to "educate" me on Mexican Culture, i'd probably tell him to get ****ed.

(No offense Donger, i am merely using you as an example)

I do value real life experience greatly, because it's real world education.

And here you prove exactly what I was saying. How do you not see the hypocricy of your position?

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by demonhero

his parents and himself are to blame imo.

And you're probably right.

But i believe that teachers and others can make a huge difference.

I came from a real ****ed up childhood...I've shared many stories on this site.

I use to look at the guy standing next to me and think to myself, "yeah, your life sucks, but mine was worse. And look at me, i pulled through it and created a life and family for myself so there's no excuses for you".

I use to think that way.

Then when i looked back and REALLY thought about it, i realized that....despite having no mother and druggie dad and all that other shit that ruined my childhood, i had a lot of really, really positive influences in my life.

I've had some outstanding, passionate teachers who cared about me and my education. I've had some counselors who were like mother figures for me. I had adults that really cared about me and taught me a lot.

I realized that some of these kids have never had that. I didn't receive that kind of special attention until i ran away from home.

So i have to wonder how many thousands of kids NEVER received that kind of attention and were just cast off by assholes who think they should act a certain way, even though they don't know you or what causes you to act the way you do.

I am grateful that i had some outstanding adults in my life, and had I never ran away, i never would've met them.

So when i see a kid like the one in the OP, i refuse to simply dismiss him because he didn't act the way you want him to act.

I just don't believe the world is that black and white.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

we will have to disagree on this buddy

I'm sure that type of behavior will get him far in life......I bet he can lecture his bosses, his professors, cops and every other authority figure in his life on how smart he is and how he knows the job....and this will get him ahead in life. Did this work for you?

**SAUTO** · 05-10-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

it doesn't really matter if every kid in there agreed with him

we (adults) can't see what led up to his outburst

There is almost no scenario where that type of outburst is acceptable or will produce better results than acting in a rational way without insulting the teacher and disrupting the class.

I'm going to go with the odds here.

i can agree here. i was just disagreeing with the scorpion comments and your wrong assumption that all the kids disagreed with him

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i can agree here. i was just disagreeing with the scorpion comments and your wrong assumption that all the kids disagreed with him

well, being fair, I said I was unsure of the scorpion comment...and i never said 'all the kids disagreed with him'

You made that up

**SAUTO** · 05-10-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I'm sure that type of behavior will get him far in life......I bet he can lecture his bosses, his professors, cops and every other authority figure in his life on how smart he is and how he knows the job....and this will get him ahead in life. Did this work for you?

i was somewhat the same way in school.

ended up still graduating 4th in my class, but didnt get along with employers very well because i dont take to being yelled at too kindly.

but i have made it pretty far in life and am a successful person because i am a great mechanic, and own my own business.

**Bob Dole** · 05-10-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The only person he is ruining things for is himself......the kids got a good lesson that day...how NOT to behave if you want to succeed.

Because it will most certainly go on his Permanent Record?

Seriously, if the kid had the right skill set, Bob Dole would hire him tomorrow and put him on projects that involved imagination and the ability to assume a reasoned amount of risk. Bob Dole doesn't have any desire to lead people who nod their head and agree with anything Bob Dole says. A leader needs to be challenged and welcomes the opportunities it creates..

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i was somewhat the same way in school.

ended up still graduating 4th in my class, but didnt get along with employers very well because i dont take to being yelled at too kindly.

but i have made it pretty far in life and am a successful person because i am a great mechanic, and own my own business.

I was the same way too, and ended up graduating Cum Laude at university and getting a post graduate degree as well...

My attitude changed after high school, and I realized I had to man up. If i had done it earlier, I think it would've been better for me.

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Yet in 3 years that is what to be expected from them in real life. Furthermore, you don't anything about the packets, the manner in which this teacher teaches or anything outside of a 2 minute youtube clip from a mouthy kid with no rebuttal from the teacher. You know nothing of the teachers funding, the schools curriculum, nor the background of the children in the room. For all that is known that could be detention.

Point being, I will concede that the child had a point that not all students learn the same and in an all things being equal classroom he would be somewhat justified for his disagreement. However, you must concede that you have absolutely no clue as to the context of what he speaks and can't possibly attest to the truthfulness as to the perfect scenario I illustrated above.

I'll concede that i don't know the context of the video. But that doesn't change the truthfulness of the speech, which is that kids learn more from an engaging teacher.

Was he wrong for his outburst? Yes.

But you don't know the context either, so why dismiss what he has to say?

He even states in the video that the teacher had stated weeks ago that she was there to simply collect a paycheck.

So if we don't know the story, why dismiss it?

Why are you trying to pick a side instead of taking it for its face value?

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Because it will most certainly go on his Permanent Record?

Seriously, if the kid had the right skill set, Bob Dole would hire him tomorrow and put him on projects that involved imagination and the ability to assume a reasoned amount of risk. Bob Dole doesn't have any desire to lead people who nod their head and agree with anything Bob Dole says. A leader needs to be challenged and welcomes the opportunities it creates..

Yes im sure you would enjoy working with this person, given his current attitude...

If you are too dumb to know the difference between having differences / proper conflict resolution / addressing issues and throwing a temper tantrrum insulting the teacher, & disrupting the classroom I doubt you are in any position to hire anyone for anything.

Just Passin' By · 05-10-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I'll concede that i don't know the context of the video. But that doesn't change the truthfulness of the speech, which is that kids learn more from an engaging teacher.

The problem with blanket statements about teaching (and many other professions) is that they're almost never correct, because they essentially try to turn students into numbers. What is true is that some kids learn more from an engaging teacher, and some do not. Different styles work with different people.

**Bob Dole** · 05-10-2013, 03:08 PM

Why the **** is there an Ohio State flag on the wall?

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

This is not true. What is true is that some kids learn more from an engaging teacher.

I feel that ALL kids learn more from an engaging teacher, but some kids are just fine on their own.

Not all kids NEED an engaging teacher, but all kids are better off having one.

**Donger** · 05-10-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I guess we'll have to disagree on this.

I value real life experience greatly, maybe you don't.

If Donger told me what life was like living in the slums Europe, i wouldn't disagree with him, because he's lived it and he would know best.

If Donger, a Suburban white man, were to try to "educate" me on Mexican Culture, i'd probably tell him to get ****ed.

(No offense Donger, i am merely using you as an example)

I do value real life experience greatly, because it's real world education.

None taken, and it's nice to meet you.

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