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Old 01-05-2013, 09:53 AM   #1
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We just demoted the GM position to the HC's man-servant.

His job is to do the will of the HC.

And the HC we just hired has no fear of spending money for people he wants. He went out and grabbed every goodie in free agency a few years ago and built the "dream team."

Clark didn't hire this guy to not spend money...
I believe that as team building is concerned, that Scott Pioli had the right approach.

You build championship teams through the draft, and dip into free agency for a couple of key additions when the time is right.

Where Pioli failed is n the actual choices he made in the draft.

The SB hasn't been won by teams that just spend money.

It's won by teams that make good picks in the draft.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:00 AM   #2
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I believe that as team building is concerned, that Scott Pioli had the right approach.

You build championship teams through the draft, and dip into free agency for a couple of key additions when the time is right.

Where Pioli failed is n the actual choices he made in the draft.

The SB hasn't been won by teams that just spend money.

It's won by teams that make good picks in the draft.
Good thing the #1 candidate for our GM job was the director of college scouting for the Packers...
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:04 AM   #3
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Good thing the #1 candidate for our GM job was the director of college scouting for the Packers...
If Dorsey does take the job, then I can buy in a little more.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:57 PM   #4
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I believe that as team building is concerned, that Scott Pioli had the right approach.

You build championship teams through the draft, and dip into free agency for a couple of key additions when the time is right.

Where Pioli failed is n the actual choices he made in the draft.

The SB hasn't been won by teams that just spend money.

It's won by teams that make good picks in the draft.
Completely agree.

That said, Clark has been the ugly girl at the school dance.

Far, FAR too passive.

The last decade our approach to FA was "well, if we can get guy X at a good price lets do it!"

Reid identified his targets and said "these are the people I think we need. Do what we have to so we can get them."

Did Reid get burned?

Yes, clearly.

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I am no prophet—and here’s no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.
Reid may be wrong but he won't be too timid to attempt...
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:11 PM   #5
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I hope Andy finds the second coming of Jim Johnson for defense.

Andy Reid...

-Lost an NFC championship game AND a SB purely on time management.

-Lost 3 NFC championship games at home to teams they dominated that season and seasons before.

-Had two great RB's but refused to run the ball while opting to throw 90% of the time to 3rd rate WR the best of which was Freddie Mitchell. (lol)
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:20 PM   #6
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I hope Andy finds the second coming of Jim Johnson for defense.

Andy Reid...

-Lost an NFC championship game AND a SB purely on time management.

-Lost 3 NFC championship games at home to teams they dominated that season and seasons before.

-Had two great RB's but refused to run the ball while opting to throw 90% of the time to 3rd rate WR the best of which was Freddie Mitchell. (lol)
In that same amount of time the Chiefs won two division titles and ZERO playoff games.

Baby steps.

****ing baby steps...
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:45 PM   #7
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In that same amount of time the Chiefs won two division titles and ZERO playoff games.

Baby steps.

****ing baby steps...

The Giants won two SB's during Andy's time. Reid was in Philly 14 years and has been to one SB in 2004 and lost. He's had Philly in many playoff games and back in the day contending year after year, yet no SB win and teams are clamoring for him?

Agreed. We did'nt get this way overnight and the fix isn't going to happpen overnight either.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:18 PM   #8
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The Giants won two SB's during Andy's time. Reid was in Philly 14 years and has been to one SB in 2004 and lost. He's had Philly in many playoff games and back in the day contending year after year, yet no SB win and teams are clamoring for him?
I'm not saying and don't believe he'll win us a SB.

No, I don't.

I think he'll rebuild this franchise back to the Marty/Carl level of competitive.

That's it.

Then I think (3-4 years) he should be fired and the best guy we believe can take us to the next level should be hired.

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Agreed. We did'nt get this way overnight and the fix isn't going to happpen overnight either.
See above...
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I'm not saying and don't believe he'll win us a SB.

No, I don't.

I think he'll rebuild this franchise back to the Marty/Carl level of competitive.

That's it.

Then I think (3-4 years) he should be fired and the best guy we believe can take us to the next level should be hired.



See above...
Yep. That's exactly what I said yesterday also. Hopefully after 3-5 years we discover some young gun and he takes us over the top and finishes the job that Reid started.
I don't have blinders on when it comes to Reid, I think he can return the franchise to respectability, but I don't think he is a SB winning coach. Let's hope I'm wrong.
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