49ers cornerback: No gays allowed

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I don't "respect the honesty" at all. Sure, I don't think he should be persecuted, and I'm not particularly shocked by his statements, but he's still a bigot. Being a loudmouthed bigot doesn't garner any extra respect.

And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Not everyone has to be tolerant of everything, and it should also be just fine for someone to disagree with someone else's lifestyle choice and say they don't like it, and people be ok with them saying that. THAT is real tolerance.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Not everyone has to be tolerant of everything, and it should also be just fine for someone to disagree with someone else's lifestyle choice and say they don't like it, and people be ok with them saying that. THAT is real tolerance.

People who want someone removed from their place of employment for being gay are bigots. It has nothing to do with "disagreeing vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life." That is an absurd definition. Here's an actual one:

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

People who want someone removed from their place of employment for being gay are bigots. It has nothing to do with "disagreeing vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life." That is an absurd definition. Here's an actual one:

So is one that treats religious people with intolerance, as we often see on this board (I am not religious), also a bigot?

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

So is one that treats religious people with intolerance, as we often see on this board (I am not religious), also a bigot?

Yes

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

So is one that treats religious people with intolerance, as we often see on this board (I am not religious), also a bigot?

Abso-****ing-lutely.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Not everyone has to be tolerant of everything, and it should also be just fine for someone to disagree with someone else's lifestyle choice and say they don't like it, and people be ok with them saying that. THAT is real tolerance.

You'll get skewered for your position. Those demanding tolerance are usually among the least tolerant people you know, because the only tolerance they're really demanding is tolerance of their positions at the expense of all others.

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You'll get skewered for your position. Those demanding tolerance are usually among the least tolerant people you know, because the only tolerance they're really demanding is tolerance of their positions at the expense of all others.

This idea that we're supposed to tolerate intolerance is complete nonsense, and I'm really sick of people pushing it as though it's some kind of brilliant counterpoint.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

This idea that we're supposed to tolerate intolerance is complete nonsense, and I'm really sick of people pushing it as though it's some kind of brilliant counterpoint.

MFing REP. At least Guardian has the balls to flat out blame all Muslims for terrorism.

[mcan]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

MFing REP. At least Guardian has the balls to flat out blame all Muslims for terrorism.

I thought that was a particularly nice gesture as well. I mean its just his preference to not be around terrorists and its his opinion that Muslim stereotypes are all true, across the board. Therefore they are all Terrorists. Just his opinion though. He cant have them all killed. It's not like he's a bigot or anything.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

This idea that we're supposed to tolerate intolerance is complete nonsense, and I'm really sick of people pushing it as though it's some kind of brilliant counterpoint.

I didn't claim to be tossing out pearls, but it's certainly more brilliant than the bullshit you're peddling.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I didn't claim to be tossing out pearls, but it's certainly more brilliant than the bullshit you're peddling.

Most of his brilliance comes from one liners like Peyton Manning, clearly way ahead of his time.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

This idea that we're supposed to tolerate intolerance is complete nonsense, and I'm really sick of people pushing it as though it's some kind of brilliant counterpoint.

That's intolerance of intolerance and I'm sick of it.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Not everyone has to be tolerant of everything, and it should also be just fine for someone to disagree with someone else's lifestyle choice and say they don't like it, and people be ok with them saying that. THAT is real tolerance.

I have a real hard time tolerating a type of person, well actually I loath them & hate is bout the best word to describe the feeling. The worst part of it is that my brother is one. Talk about awkward lol It's sadly true tho and I still have to "accept" him for who he is, doesn't mean I like it. I don't even like to admit this on his part but my brother is a Raiders fan.

Why dammet WHY? I hate Raiders & I hate Broncos those kind of peoples make me sick SICK I SAY. Should I tollerate and love my brother? ? ? IDK?
I ask that question every day. Per shame he bestowed my family per shame.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Actually, it does.

It means that people are intolerant of other people's lives, even though it doesn't impact the lives of those passing judgement.

I'm sure you're experienced enough to know that 99% of all gay men would never hit on you as a heterosexual man, because anyone would know immediately that you're not gay.

So, there should be no fear, no anger and no intolerance towards homosexuals in general.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Actually, it does.

It means that people are intolerant of other people's lives, even though it doesn't impact the lives of those passing judgement.

I'm sure you're experienced enough to know that 99% of all gay men would never hit on you as a heterosexual man, because anyone would know immediately that you're not gay.

So, there should be no fear, no anger and no intolerance towards homosexuals in general.

Actually Dane, that's BS. I've been hit on by more gay dudes than you can shake a stick at. At 255 and sub 10% bodyfat, they always think I'm a bodybuilder (I'm not). And to show how truly non homo phobe I am, it doesn't bother me. And i like pussy so much the wife and I sometimes have a girlfriend together. Feel me?

My point is, that's a lie and a myth. A few months ago I was with the wife and kids at Houlihans and the waiter, who was totally flaming gay, and he told me he paid for my appetizer and drinks and winked at me. I laughed and gloated over my free shit to the wife.

Second, one of my lifelong friends brother is a total flamer. And tells me all the time about all of the "straight" men that get drunk and do gay shit. Later "blaming it on the alcohol".

Gay men say this as a cop out. "You're straight, I'd never hit on you". When straight guys find out the hot chic is a lesbian, we don't see her as off limits, we see her as a challenge. You think it's any different with gay guys? Hardly.

Again, I got no problem with gay guys and have several really good friends that are gay. The wife obviously likes women too. I also don't have a problem with someone saying they don't like queers and or whatever either. I really get fed up with people being offended over people saying things that have ZERO impact on their lives.