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Old 02-22-2013, 10:49 AM   #1
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Kevin "well he's better than Cassel" Kolb.

This fanbase is AMAZING.
My you're awfully trolly today. Not once did I ever say the Chiefs should bring in Kevin Kolb. I didn't even suggest it, and the thought has never crossed my head.

I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system. And now you're trying to deflect by putting words in my mouth.

If you don't want to call Reid a QB guru, fine.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:54 AM   #2
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My you're awfully trolly today. Not once did I ever say the Chiefs should bring in Kevin Kolb. I didn't even suggest it, and the thought has never crossed my head.

I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system. And now you're trying to deflect by putting words in my mouth.

If you don't want to call Reid a QB guru, fine.
Your standards are ridiculously low if you think Kolb played well in Philly.

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11 TD's
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:57 AM   #3
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Your standards are ridiculously low if you think Kolb played well in Philly.

61% completion
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Come on, Andy Reid flipped him for picks. He's a QB genius.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:59 AM   #4
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Come on, Andy Reid flipped him for picks. He's a QB genius.
Not a knock on Reid, more an indictment of how stupid the Cardinals were. If his rep as a QB guy gets teams to do similar stupid shit for us, it will be awesome.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:00 AM   #5
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All of this trade back talk is ridiculous.

NOBODY is going to trade up to #1 for a Tackle. Or a Guard. Or a corner. NOBODY. None of those players is a game changer, and you don't trade up to the #1 spot for anything less.

A QB is a game changer. If you don't have one, you're screwed. We don't. If Dorsey and Reid like Geno, they'll take him at #1. I hope they do, I hope we can go forward with our very own #1 guy and I hope he becomes the franchise QB we've always wanted.

But I don't know. It may be a 2nd rounder.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:56 AM   #6
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FYI, the excuse given for why Kolb couldn't secure the starting spot in Philly was that he got injured. TWICE.

Well guess what? He has the SAME PROBLEM in Arizona.

A QB that can't stay healthy cannot be, BY DEFINITION, a franchise QB.

So let's throw out Kolb.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:57 AM   #7
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I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system.
Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:03 AM   #8
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Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
Mr. All Knowing: Still waiting on your QB guru list.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:17 AM   #9
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Mr. All Knowing: Still waiting on your QB guru list.
I would assume this conversation is over now, right?
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:27 AM   #10
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I would assume this conversation is over now, right?
I am curious who you think are the QB gurus in the league.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:29 AM   #11
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I am curious who you think are the QB gurus in the league.
Why?

This conversation was about Andy Reid. And you were wrong.

You enjoy taking a beating?
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:36 AM   #12
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Why?

This conversation was about Andy Reid. And you were wrong.

You enjoy taking a beating?
Ha! I could care less. Rather, I enjoyed the debate and learned something from it re: Reid's QBs in Philly.

Props to OnTheWarpath58 for providing that info, and being able to do so in a modest fashion.

Thanks for the back and forth, htismaqe.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:11 AM   #13
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Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:15 AM   #14
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Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.
I stand corrected then.
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Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.
Take Vick out of the equation, and you're looking at a 20-28 record (.416) and a 61:64 TD:INT ratio.

Played well in Reid's system, alright.
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