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04-11-2005, 02:40 PM | #2 |
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I like it, but I don't like it.
A QB can wait until the later rounds or even next year. Too many needs on the D side of the ball this year. I like the idea of adding Roby and Sproles in those rounds. Nice picks there. But, I'm still not sold on DJ being worth all the accolades he's been getting. We'll see....
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04-11-2005, 02:52 PM | #3 |
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yea... i'd go for it
except i would rather pass on Horton and grab someone else maybe WR fred gibson or another linebacker/cornerback
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04-11-2005, 02:54 PM | #4 |
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IMO a QB can wait until next year and we have no need for sproles with LJ,Priest,Holcome and Jonathan Smith over in NFL europe.Smith is the same size as sproles and has a style similar.He's been running pretty well over in Europe.Id rather keep him and draft for the Defense.
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04-11-2005, 02:56 PM | #5 |
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I certainly wouldn't complain about this draft one bit. I think we can use a bit more defense (not sure we need a QB or RB, although I'd like Sproles' value there). But, if this happened, I'd be quite pleased, I think.
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04-11-2005, 02:57 PM | #6 |
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I don't want the fumbling midget on the Chiefs. That's the donk's thing.
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04-11-2005, 03:04 PM | #7 |
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we can find a QB in the later rounds. I think we need a DT and an Olineman in the mid rounds, and we can probably find a WR in the 7th round. Is your assumption based on us trading a 4th and 5th for Surtain? That is not going to happen.
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04-11-2005, 03:06 PM | #8 |
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Why would we need Sproles? Vermiel would only use him as a SP return man and were already stacked in that as well with Dante Hall and Samie Parker.
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If thats true,we need to pick up a CB in the third round and a QB later on.
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04-11-2005, 03:15 PM | #10 |
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Sorry, but I hate it.
Orton sucks. Roby won't be there in the 5th, IMO. If you're going to target a WR, it should be with the 3rd-round pick you spent on Orton. |
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Here's an interesting Mock Draft to peruse....
http://www.gbnreport.com/2005projection.htm First round 1 San Francisco *Aaron Rodgers QB California 49ers would dearly love to trade down, however, aren't likely to find any takers.. Rodgers isn't necessarily the top prosepct on the board, but gives SF the best chance of finding a starter from day one at the position 2 Miami Ronnie Brown RB Auburn Like the 49ers, the Dolphins want to trade down, but also aren't likely to find a dance partner...Brown is the anti-Ricky; a tough runner who will show up; he's also a terrific receiver 3 Minnesota (from Cleveland) Braylon Edwards WR Michigan Vikes need to find a replacement for the departed Randy Moss, but could actually miss out on the big three WRs if they stay at #7... Browns will get shot at same players at #3 or 7 4 Tampa Bay (from Chicago) *Mike Williams WR Southern California Bears and Bucs do the hokey pokey that ensures both teams get the guy they want...Bucs' Jon Gruden has made no secret about how much he likes SC's Williams a 'freakish playmaker' 5 Chicago (from Tampa Bay) Cedric Benson RB Texas Benson isn't a burner and brings some character issues top the table; however, he's the type of back you can give the ball to 25-30 times a game and forget it 6 San Diego (from Tennessee) *Troy Williamson WR South Carolina Chargers need a big-play WR to complete picture in team revival and won't get one of the top three down at #12...4.3 40 time at combine got the other SC's Williamson rocketing up value board's around the NFL 7 Cleveland (from Oakland thru Minnesota) *Shawn Merriman LB Maryland QB Alex Smith could also factor in for Browns at #3 or #7, but Merriman gives defensive guru Romeo Crennel disruptive edge rusher to rebuild defense around 8 Arizona *Alex Smith QB Utah Kurt Warner is a decent stop-gap measure, but surely Dennis Green won't pass on his good fortune if a potential franchise type QB like Smith falls in lap; RB Carnell Williams or one of the CBs will be tempting tough 9 Washington *Adam Jones CB West Virginia Jones will be perfect tonic for Redskins to repair secondary which has lost outstanding cover corners Champ Bailey and Fred Smoot this past couple of years 10 Detroit Derrick Johnson LB Texas Lions are sitting pretty at #10 and should get a look at a number of quality prospects who can come in and help risimg franchise... OT Alex Barron, TE Heath Miller or one of the top remaining CBs would also be in the mix,... Johnson will combine with Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman to give Lions one of most athletic LB trios in NFL 11 Kansas City (from Dallas) Antel Rolle CB Miami Kansas City needs help big-time at corner and hope to acquire either Patrick Surtain in trade with Dolphins or by signing injured vet Ty Law; for now, though, a move up to get Rolle, a tough, physical cover corner might be good Plan B 12 Tennessee (from NY Giants thru San Diego) Alex Barron OT Florida State Titans need replacement for venearble Brad Hopkins whose been around since high tops; move down makes sense because Barron would be a reach at #6; CB Rogers good fall back if Barron goes to Detroit or Dallas 13 Houston Carnell Williams RB Auburn Texans looking at CB and pass rush help, but real feature back like Williams may be just too hard to pass up. 14 Carolina Matt Jones WR Arkansas Somebody is going to jump on Jones early; why not the Panthers who lost Mushin Muhmmad to free agency 15 Dallas (from Kansas City) Demarcus Ware OLB Troy State New Parcells' 3-4 defense needs explosive edge rusher in Lawrence Taylor mold to really work; Ware is raw but has super quick first step 16 New Orleans Carlos Rogers CB Auburn Defense, defense, defense is key in Saints' draft plans; DT Travis Johnson would be fcator here too 17 Cincinnati Erasmus James DE Wisconsin Improved pass rush is Bengals main goal at 2005 draft and Badgers' James is one of the best despite lack of pure footspeed 18 Minnesota David Pollack DE Georgia Pollack isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea, but he'll be a nice fit on a team where DT firm of Williams and Williams will occupy so much attention 19 Philadelphi (from St. Louis) Luis Castillo DT Northwestern Eagles always move up so why not this year when they have a passel of extra picks; jump in ahead of divison rival Cowboys to take one of draft's rising stars 20 Dallas (from Buffalo) Shaun Cody DE Southern California DT/DE tweener will be nice fit as 3-4 DE 21 Jacksonville *Justin Miller CB Clemson Speedy Miller, who also returns kicks, addresses team's biggest need for solid cover corner; OU WR Mark Clayotn could also be in mix 22 Baltimore Travis Johnson DT Florida State Bit of baggage drops rugged DT down a couple of spots; nice personal protector for Ray Lewis in new 4-3 defense 23 Cleveland (from Seattle) Charlie Frye QB Akron Browns use some of the profit from earlier Vikings' deal to jump ahead of Packers to get QB of the future; the fact that Frye is a local kid should also help to keep the dawg pound in check for a while 24 Indianapolis (from Green Bay) Marcus Spears DE LSU Colts looking for complimentary DE with size to take some of the heat off Dwight Freeney 25 Denver *Fabian Washington CB Nebraska DL help (hopefully) came from Cleveland; Huskers supply speed at corner 26 New York Jets Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma Clayton should go much higher, but today he didn't; nice target for QB Chad Pennington who can make things happen after he catches the ball 27 Atlanta Khalif Barnes OT Washington A little personal protection for company VIP Vick 28 San Diego *Justin Tuck DE Notre Dame Maybe more of a 4-3 type DE, but Tuck brings pass rush potential Charger defense desperately needs 29 Green Bay (from Indianapolis) Matt Roth DE Iowa With Charlie Frye off the board, Packers look to add a piece to D puzzle to give Brett one more run at a title 30 Pittsburgh *Heath Miller TE Virginia Another player who probably will go much higher but just didn't; nice underneath target for young QB Ben Roethlisberger 31 St. Louis (from Philadelphia) Dan Cody DE Okalhoma Has some questions, but should make decent complimentary pass rush to support Leonard Little 32 New England Reggie Brown WR Georgia Patriot type WR; not flashy, but quick smart and steady Summary of projected trades: (1) Minnesota sends Cleveland the 7th pick overall, originally acquired from Oakland, plus 2nd, 4th and 6th round picks for the 3rd pick (2) Tampa Bay gives Chicago a #3 pick in 2006 to flip 4th and 5th picks (3) San Diego gives Tennessee the 12th pick overall, plus 2nd and 4th round picks in 2005 and a #3 in 2006 for the 6th pick (4) Kansas City gives Dallas the 15th pick in 2005 plus a 4th round pick and a #2 pick in 2006 for the 11th pick (5) Philadelphia gives St. Louis the 31st pick, plus 2nd, 4th and 6th roundes for the 19th pick (6) Cleveland gives Seattle the 34th pick in 2004 plus the second acquired from Minnesota for the 23rd pick (7) indianapolis gives Green Bay the 29th pick plus a second rounder for the 24th pick Second round 33 San Francisco Roddy White WR Alabama-Birmingham 34 Seattle (from Cleveland) *Channing Crowder LB Florida 35 Philadelphia (from Miami) *Odell Thurman RB Georgia 36 Tampa Bay *Ciatrick Fason RB Florida 37 Tennessee Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 38 Oakland Corey Webster CB LSU 39 Chicago Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma 40 New Orleans (from Washington) Atiyyah Ellison DT Missouri 41 Detroit Alex Smith TE Stanford 42 Dallas Marcus Johnson OG Mississippi 43 New York Giants *Thomas Davis FS Georgia 44 Arizona Eric Green CB Virginia Tech 45 Carolina David Baas OG Michigan 46 Kansas City Kevin Burnett LB Tennessee 47 Houston Daryl Blackstock LB Virginia 48 Cincinnati Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska 49 Seattle (from Minnesota thru Cleveland) Chris Canty DE Virginia 50 St. Louis Elton Brown OG Virginia 51 Green Bay (from New Orleans) *Brodney Pool Fs Oklahoma 52 Jacksonville *Jovan Haye DE Vanderbilt 53 Baltimore *Chris Spencer C Mississippi 54 Seattle Mike Patterson DT Southern California 55 Buffalo Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin 56 Denver Jonathan Babineaux DT Iowa 57 New York Jets *Brandon Browner CB Oregon State 58 Green Bay Bryant McFadden CB Florida State 59 Atlanta *C. J. Moseley DT Missouri 60 Green Bay (from Indianapolis) Adam Seward LB UNLV 61 Tennessee (from San Diego) *Chris Henry WR West Virginia 62 Pittsburgh Chris Kemoeatu OG Utah 63 St. Louis (from Philadelphia) Stanley Wilson CB Stanford 64 New England Alfred Fincher LB UConn Third round 65 San Francisco *Josh Bullocks FS Nebraska 66 St. Louis (from Miami) Donte Nicholson SS Oklahoma 67 Cleveland Sione Pouha DT Utah 68 Tennessee *Eric Shelton RB Louisville 69 Oakland *Ernest Shazor SS Michigan 70 Miami (from Chicago) Logan Mankins OT Fresno State 71 Tampa Bay Jason Campbell QB Auburn 72 Detroit Adam Terry OT Syracuse 73 Houston (from Dallas) Stanford Routt CB Houston 74 New York Giants Darrent Williams CB Oklahoma State 75 Arizona Kay-Jay Harris RB West Virginia 76 Washington Vincent Jackson WR Northern Colorado 77 Philadelphia (from Kansas City) Evan Mathis OG Alabama 78 Houston Chris Colmer OT North Carolina State 79 Carolina J.J. Arrington RB California 80 Minnesota Mike Nugent PK Ohio State 81 St. Louis Adrian McPherson QB Florida State 82 New Orleans *Rian Wallace LB Temple 83 Cincinnati Anthony Bryant DT Alabama 84 Baltimore Mark Bradley WR Oklahoma 85 Seattle *Vernand Morency RB Oklahoma State 86 Buffalo Claude Terrell OG New Mexico 87 Jacksonville Michael Munoz OT Tennessee 88 New York Jets Lorenzo Alexander DT California 89 Green Bay Adam Snyder OG Oregon Denver 90 Atlanta Jerome Mathis WR Hampton 91 Tampa Bay (from San Diego) Ronald Bartell CB Howard 92 Indianapolis Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State 93 Pittsburgh Cro Thorpe WR Florida State 94 Philadelphia *Marion Barber RB Minnesota 95 Arizona (from New England) Eric Moore DE Florida State 96(c) Tennessee Andrew Walter QB Arizona State 97(c) Denver Dan Buenning OG Wisconsin 98(c) Seattle Jordan Beck LB Cal-Poly 99(c) Kansas City Kyle Orton QB Purdue 100(c) New England Ray Willis OT Florida State 101(c) Denver Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee
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Crap guys change Orton to Dustin Colquitt, the punter out of Tennessee. I just found my notes and I had Colquitt in there instead of Orton but my brain has been on him.
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