Torrent? Quick Explanation for those confused...

DRU · 09:06 PM

I think part of the reason for not many seeds being left open is because we're not all understanding exactly what they are.

With torrent downloads, the more people downloading the better. This is true...but only to an extent.

If 10 people have half of the file downloaded and you begin a brand new one...you're gonna get shared bandwidth from all 10 of those people up until the point where you catch up to them. Once you catch up...it depends on SEEDS.

Seeds are NOT simply somebody that is downloading the file. A seed is somebody that has the COMPLETE file downloaded and has left their torrent window open. The status of the file will change from "downloading" to "seeding." At this point your download is finished, but you're just being nice.

This is also why those of you who are the first to get on may get slow downloads. Since I'm the ONLY person with the complete...the ONLY seed...you're only gonna get my capped 40kb/sec upload. Divide this amoung all the downloaders and it's gonna go really slow. Just like my FTP did last year.

It doesn't take long to see the advantage of torrent, however. Let's say you're only downloading at 10kb/sec. But...there's 7 other people downloading at the same speed. This is 80kb/sec worth of bandwith. TWICE as much as I'd be able to dish out myself like last year.

So let's say you start downloading after 20 others have already downloaded 80% of the file. You will probably get a great d/l speed during the entire transfer. By the time you catch up the others will be done (ideally).

It all relies on you LEAVING YOUR TORRENT WINDOW open after your download is complete. For those of you who are simply using the BitTorrent plugin and must have a seperate window open for every torrent you're downloading, you might wanna check out www.torrentstorm.com. It's a torrent manager that lists all your torrents in one manager instead of having a seperate window for each and every one. Free and small download. Very worth-while.
Then, you can let your torrents remain open in a small tool that sits in your task-bar instead of the window.

IMPORTANT! If you're behind a firewall or router you'll need to open ports 6881-6889. These are the ports that are used for others to connect and download from you while it's open. This will also make your downloads go much faster.

I hope this explains things a little better. If there's any other questions I'll do my best to answer.

|Zach| · 09-07-2004, 05:55 PM

If we all help eachother out with this file sharing thing we can all have great video of the team we love all season. Thanks to DRU for making this work. I am sure it will be great for the regular season and beyond.

R&GHomer · 09-07-2004, 06:07 PM

Thanks for the lo down.

DRU · 09-07-2004, 08:09 PM

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If we all help eachother out with this file sharing thing we can all have great video of the team we love all season. Thanks to DRU for making this work. I am sure it will be great for the regular season and beyond.

Yup. Think about it...if we could get half of the chiefs fans on the internet to check this out...i'm sure they'd like it...and then the downloads would usually be BLAZING for you all. One person seeding for a business DSL line or T1 or T3 even would make such a huge difference in getting that first group of seeds out there.

I tried to post my torrents on other chiefs forum sites but they didn't like them. Treated them like spam and deleted them off their forums. I got a bunch of sh*t from some of them too.

4th and Long · 09-07-2004, 08:13 PM

I for one, appreciate your efforts DRU.

A quick clarification, just to make sure my old slow ass is understanding the seed process.

To seed, if you have the file completed, all you have to do is click on the original torrent link and the seed process is automatic? Correct?

Thanks again!

- 4th

unlurking · 09-07-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

I tried to post my torrents on other chiefs forum sites but they didn't like them. Treated them like spam and deleted them off their forums. I got a bunch of sh*t from some of them too.

Damn ludites.

lol

bishop_74 · 09-07-2004, 08:25 PM

Torrent is poop. Just put it on a server somewhere.

unlurking · 09-07-2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bishop_74

Torrent is poop. Just put it on a server somewhere.

You offering bandwidth?

|Zach| · 09-07-2004, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bishop_74

Torrent is poop. Just put it on a server somewhere.

Do you know how much bandwith that takes.

**KcMizzou** · 09-07-2004, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

If we all help eachother out with this file sharing thing we can all have great video of the team we love all season. Thanks to DRU for making this work. I am sure it will be great for the regular season and beyond.

I'll second that. I've got every Chiefs realted file he's posted so far. It's much appreciated...

**KcMizzou** · 09-07-2004, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

I tried to post my torrents on other chiefs forum sites but they didn't like them. Treated them like spam and deleted them off their forums. I got a bunch of sh*t from some of them too.

Eh, fug em..

Maybe they just didn't understand what it was?

DRU · 09-07-2004, 08:58 PM

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To seed, if you have the file completed, all you have to do is click on the original torrent link and the seed process is automatic? Correct?

Pretty much...but you do need to point it to where the file is. For instance, you've completed the file and you want to seed it. You've saved the file at c:\documents\video\clip.avi. When you click on the torrent link it will come up like you're wanting to download it again. Simply browse to that same directory you've got it stored and it will do it's thing from there.

**KcMizzou** · 09-07-2004, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

Pretty much...but you do need to point it to where the file is. For instance, you've completed the file and you want to seed it. You've saved the file at c:\documents\video\clip.avi. When you click on the torrent link it will come up like you're wanting to download it again. Simply browse to that same directory you've got it stored and it will do it's thing from there.

from the other torrent thread...

DRU... I keep getting the same message. It says checking existing file... get's to download succeeded... then I get that "problem connecting to tracker" message. I can't seem to get it uploading again. Any ideas?

4th and Long · 09-07-2004, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

Pretty much...but you do need to point it to where the file is. For instance, you've completed the file and you want to seed it. You've saved the file at c:\documents\video\clip.avi. When you click on the torrent link it will come up like you're wanting to download it again. Simply browse to that same directory you've got it stored and it will do it's thing from there.

Ok that's what I thought. Thanks DRU. I am now enlightened. I knew some day my 6th grade edumication would pay off. Now I can continue my quest to be a double naught spy.

**KcMizzou** · 09-07-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ENDelt260

WTF? That's just weird.... maybe they were concerned about legal issues or something.

On that note... uh, ChiefsPlanet does not officially endorse the sharing of copyrighted NFL broadcasts via the Internet. MOF... no mod has ever seen this thread. I'm fired.

09-07-2004, 05:53 PM
DRU To the Game Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $7243516	Torrent? Quick Explanation for those confused... I think part of the reason for not many seeds being left open is because we're not all understanding exactly what they are. With torrent downloads, the more people downloading the better. This is true...but only to an extent. If 10 people have half of the file downloaded and you begin a brand new one...you're gonna get shared bandwidth from all 10 of those people up until the point where you catch up to them. Once you catch up...it depends on SEEDS. Seeds are NOT simply somebody that is downloading the file. A seed is somebody that has the COMPLETE file downloaded and has left their torrent window open. The status of the file will change from "downloading" to "seeding." At this point your download is finished, but you're just being nice. This is also why those of you who are the first to get on may get slow downloads. Since I'm the ONLY person with the complete...the ONLY seed...you're only gonna get my capped 40kb/sec upload. Divide this amoung all the downloaders and it's gonna go really slow. Just like my FTP did last year. It doesn't take long to see the advantage of torrent, however. Let's say you're only downloading at 10kb/sec. But...there's 7 other people downloading at the same speed. This is 80kb/sec worth of bandwith. TWICE as much as I'd be able to dish out myself like last year. So let's say you start downloading after 20 others have already downloaded 80% of the file. You will probably get a great d/l speed during the entire transfer. By the time you catch up the others will be done (ideally). It all relies on you LEAVING YOUR TORRENT WINDOW open after your download is complete. For those of you who are simply using the BitTorrent plugin and must have a seperate window open for every torrent you're downloading, you might wanna check out www.torrentstorm.com. It's a torrent manager that lists all your torrents in one manager instead of having a seperate window for each and every one. Free and small download. Very worth-while. Then, you can let your torrents remain open in a small tool that sits in your task-bar instead of the window. IMPORTANT! If you're behind a firewall or router you'll need to open ports 6881-6889. These are the ports that are used for others to connect and download from you while it's open. This will also make your downloads go much faster. I hope this explains things a little better. If there's any other questions I'll do my best to answer. Last edited by DRU; 09-07-2004 at 09:06 PM..
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4th and Long Wheeeeee!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In a house Casino cash: $9154925	I for one, appreciate your efforts DRU. A quick clarification, just to make sure my old slow ass is understanding the seed process. To seed, if you have the file completed, all you have to do is click on the original torrent link and the seed process is automatic? Correct? Thanks again! - 4th __________________
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