2009 Kansas City Royals Repository.

[Reaper16]

Fucking wow. .242/.282/.315 with 13 steals in 15 tries for Detroit?

Crown Dayton's fucking ass. :shake:
What? Dayton picked him up for cash considerations. Its a no-lose thing.

[Sure-Oz]

I think this guy can provide us speed at CF and on the bases, we have nothing to lose, i mean they gave up cash

[Sure-Oz]

Bannister, Bloomquist, Teahen Drawing Interest
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 31 at 9:22am CST]
FRIDAY, 9:22am: Juan C. Rodriguez of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel says the Royals rejected overtures from the Marlins on Bannister. He wonders whether the next best thing for Florida might be to bring Carl Pavano back. We've heard surprisingly little about Pavano lately. He projects to fall short of Type B status, so there's no point in the Indians keeping him.

I wonder wtf we are being offered for all these rejected trades from DM...

[doomy3]

Buster Olney said the Yankees called on Bannister, but said they wanted the Royals to pick up his salary in any trade. The fucking Yankees.

Also said, the Yankees were interested in Bannister and Bloomquist, but when asked what they would give up for them, they said "nothing."

ROFL

They were joking about this on Sportscenter a little while ago.

[Mecca]

"You guys suck give us a couple players for some crap"

[tk13]

I can get Bloomquist but Bannister shouldn't go for "nothing".

[Sure-Oz]

10:16am: Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports say the Brewers made an offer for Bannister but the Royals chose not to counter it. The Royals would have to be bowled over to move the 28 year-old righty.

Apparently people think they can bully the royals on trades cause we have an idiot GM...but i wonder if DM is acting like Ricciardi on the phone and asking a TON...im glad he isn't stupid just to give the guys away for nothing. Banny and Teahen def. are worth something solid, esp with Washburn being traded now.

[sportsman1]

It does sound like the assclowns think we are just going to give away players. If noones willing to deal, I'm glad we stand pat.

[Fish]

Hey... let's trade the retarted kid 3 pennies for his 1 quarter... he'll never know the difference....

Fuck those teams....

[DeezNutz]

Glad that DM has such a strong reputation as a shrewd negotiator.

[Sure-Oz]

Glad that DM has such a strong reputation as a shrewd negotiator.

He's the new king carl

[Demonpenz]

soooo we aren't going to make the minors better and we aren't going to make the majors better. We are going to camp with basicly the same team next year looks like.

[DeezNutz]

soooo we aren't going to make the minors better and we aren't going to make the majors better. We are going to camp with basicly the same team next year looks like.

We need to have enough money to re-sign Buck, Teahen, Jacobs, and DeJesus.

This year was a fluke. The entire ****ing sack of ****ing shit was a ****ing fluke. Forget the large sample size and the career statistics for these players. All a ****ing fluke. Trust the process. /Dayton I'm the dumbest ****ing GM in the league Moore/

[Demonpenz]

Well the good thing is if we go into next year with the same shit there won't be any excitement. It will be 90 losses right off the bat (pun intended)

[Sure-Oz]

Trade Deadline is over, woohoo go royals!

[Sure-Oz]

WhiteSox get Peavy, so everyone but the royals improved their roster in our division.

[Reaper16]

WhiteSox get Peavy, so everyone but the royals improved their roster in our division.
Cleveland did not improve their roster, not for this year.

[DeezNutz]

Trade Deadline is over, woohoo go royals!

Remember when we were excited about trade season? LMAO.

[Sure-Oz]

Remember when we were excited about trade season? LMAO.

i know dude, who knew DM blew his wad on Tony Pena JR dark chocolate edition!

[Sure-Oz]

Cleveland did not improve their roster, not for this year.

Overall yes, considering both were leaving and owed money but i'll agree they didnt get as much as they shouldve esp for Lee.

[petegz28]

i know dude, who knew DM blew his wad on Tony Pena dark chocolate edition!

I told you guys not to expect jack shit for trades.

[Sure-Oz]

I told you guys not to expect jack shit for trades.

Like i said earlier, DM is the new king carl of KC

[DeezNutz]

i know dude, who knew DM blew his wad on Tony Pena JR dark chocolate edition!

ROFL

[petegz28]

Like i said earlier, DM is the new king carl of KC

For some reason we have a hard on for players like Teahen and Buck. We are and will continue to be a team built out of everyone else's rejects.

[DeezNutz]

Like i said earlier, DM is the new king carl of KC

Pretty much an insult to Carl. At least he had some success early in his tenure. Admittedly, Dayton's job is far more difficult, yet he's failed in most measurable categories.

[Sure-Oz]

For some reason we have a hard on for players like Teahen and Buck. We are and will continue to be a team built out of everyone else's rejects.

I am glad chiefs season is almost here, this might be the worst royals season i've watched in years honestly....

[Sure-Oz]

Pretty much an insult to Carl. At least he had some success early in his tenure. Admittedly, Dayton's job is far more difficult, yet he's failed in most measurable categories.

I say fire DM and hire Brian Bannister for Player/GM atleast the dude pays attention to the stats!

[DeezNutz]

I'd like to tie the Glass family to the new jumbotron, or whatever the **** it's called, to make sure they see the complete suck that is this team and hear it from the fans/tax payers who have funded their new stadium.

[DeezNutz]

I say fire DM and hire Brian Bannister for Player/GM atleast the dude pays attention to the stats!

Glass needs to sell to someone who gives a fuck. If this means they're the Las Vegas Royals, I could really care less. I'll get the MLB package.

[Sure-Oz]

I'd like to tie the Glass family to the new jumbotron, or whatever the **** it's called, to make sure they see the complete suck that is this team and hear it from the fans/tax payers who have funded their new stadium.

I think i hate David Glass more than Carl honestly, or herm for that matter. Damnit i want an avg baseball team. I'm so frustrated that i clicked refresh on MLB traderumors all damn week about 1 billion times

[DeezNutz]

I think i hate David Glass more than Carl honestly, or herm for that matter. Damnit i want an avg baseball team. I'm so frustrated that i clicked refresh on MLB traderumors all damn week about 1 billion times

I will never forgive Glass for wrecking this franchise. I truly despise that cocksucker.

[Sure-Oz]

I will never forgive Glass for wrecking this franchise. I truly despise that one who sucks the penis.

We will never win with him ALIVE as owner

[DeezNutz]

We will never win with him ALIVE as owner

Hmm...probably correct. Is he our own Al Davis, minus any form of early success?

[Sure-Oz]

Hmm...probably correct. Is he our own Al Davis, minus any form of early success?

The Royals died when EK did, man what a way to piss and crap all over his grave

[DeezNutz]

Lubanski reportedly traded for former Brave/Mariner Ryan Langerhans.

Someone posted this on Royals Corner. No link.

Another top draft pick, ladies and gentlemen.

[petegz28]

I am glad chiefs season is almost here, this might be the worst royals season i've watched in years honestly....

I think what makes it worse is the fact that you have managment that seems to be in denial and content with a college level manager running the team.

[petegz28]

Lubanski reportedly traded for former Brave/Mariner Ryan Langerhans.

Someone posted this on Royals Corner. No link.

Another top draft pick, ladies and gentlemen.

I have no problems with trading Lubanski.....

[Sure-Oz]

Lubanski reportedly traded for former Brave/Mariner Ryan Langerhans.

Someone posted this on Royals Corner. No link.

Another top draft pick, ladies and gentlemen.

28 year old with upside, i love this pickup if true...not really......the betancourt of our OF, except a career .330 OBP OMG DM CAME TWICE!

[Sure-Oz]

I have no problems with trading Lubanski.....

We are great at drafting Mitch Maiers

[petegz28]

We are great at drafting Mitch Maiers

Exactly why I don't care that we traded Lubanski. There is no hope in sight for this team for the next 3-4 years as far as I am concerned. We really need a new owner. One who wants to win.

[DeezNutz]

I have no problems with trading Lubanski.....

Me, either.

I only have a problem with the fact that we drafted him, 5th overall, no less.

Markakis went 7th overall. That would have sucked.

[penguinz]

Glass needs to sell to someone who gives a ****. If this means they're the Las Vegas Royals, I could really care less. I'll get the MLB package.It is could NOT care less.

Why is this saying so hard for people to get correct?

[sedated]

For some reason we have a hard on for players like Teahen and Buck. We are and will continue to be a team built out of everyone else's rejects.

wtf is everyone's problem with Teahen? he is a solid player.

Buck and Jacobs are killing us though.

[petegz28]

wtf is everyone's problem with Teahen? he is a solid player.

Buck and Jacobs are killing us though.

Teahen is tradeable is my point. And if he was such the solid player, why has he played 4 positions this year? That is my point. We can't have a team full of Bloomy's, Freel's and Teahen's.

We have 3-4 utility players in our starting lineup every night. That is not a good thing. Especially when you couple that with 2- backup catchers, and a spot starter at 1st.......well you get what we have... a shitty team.

[DeezNutz]

It is could NOT care less.

Why is this saying so hard for people to get correct?

I fucked up.

http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/oh_noes_.jpg

[DeezNutz]

Teahen is tradeable is my point. And if he was such the solid player, why has he played 4 positions this year? That is my point. We can't have a team full of Bloomy's, Freel's and Teahen's.

We have 3-4 utility players in our starting lineup every night. That is not a good thing. Especially when you couple that with 2- backup catchers, and a spot starter at 1st.......well you get what we have... a shitty team.

A good team will have a Mark Teahen or two on it. He's far, far from the problem.

[Sure-Oz]

It is could NOT care less.

Why is this saying so hard for people to get correct?

We should start a grammar discussion out of this thread now

[Sure-Oz]

A good team will have a Mark Teahen or two on it. He's far, far from the problem.

The problem is when they use him to bat cleanup. We got a great set of #6 and 7 hitters batting 3 4 and 5 usually

[DeezNutz]

The problem is when they use him to bat cleanup. We got a great set of #6 and 7 hitters batting 3 4 and 5 usually

Absolutely agree.

This organization repeatedly puts Teahen in a position to fail, and when he doesn't disappoint in this regard, the fans get pissed.

In reality, the anger is misdirected.

[petegz28]

A good team will have a Mark Teahen or two on it. He's far, far from the problem.

I never said he was THE problem. I said having 3-4 of him in the starting lineup is athe problem. And he is the only one of the group, maybe Bloomy, that has trade value.

[penguinz]

I ****ed up.

http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/oh_noes_.jpgCats are dumb.

[DeezNutz]

I never said he was THE problem. I said having 3-4 of him in the starting lineup is athe problem. And he is the only one of the group, maybe Bloomy, that has trade value.

If he can net a strong return, great. But that's my position on everyone on this team, save Greinke.

I don't think Teahen, DeJesus, or a host of others bring more than what they could potentially be worth to the Royals.

[sedated]

Absolutely agree.

This organization repeatedly puts Teahen in a position to fail, and when he doesn't disappoint in this regard, the fans get pissed.

In reality, the anger is misdirected.

it was the same thing when Gload was here.


where's the hate for Guillen? that signing has been a disaster.

[Sure-Oz]

If we actually get 2 or 3 star quality players we have a hell of an offense with those avg guys....

man i wish we had prince fielder or someone like that, itd make a huge difference

[DeezNutz]

where's the hate for Guillen? that signing has been a disaster.

You mean it was stupid to give a known steroid user the richest deal of anyone on the roster (or in Royals history, if I'm not mistaken)?

Epic fucking stupidity on Moore's part. Actually, this signing screamed desperation, which has been a staple of Dayton's tenure with the franchise.

[Demonpenz]

If we actually get 2 or 3 star quality players we have a hell of an offense with those avg guys....

man i wish we had prince fielder or someone like that, itd make a huge difference

we had a dude knocking in 144 batting .330 and hitting 25+ hr we still sucked, so i dunno

[penguinz]

We should start a grammar discussion out of this thread nowWas not a grammar issue at all. ;)

[Sure-Oz]

Was not a grammar issue at all. ;)

damn you, you've corrected me before too:doh!:

[Demonpenz]

I could care less is an ok term, it means meh. If you said I couldn't care less than you really don't care

[BigChiefFan]

Time to sell to a Steinbrenner. This ownership group makes me sick.

[petegz28]

4-1.....Ponson really kicks ass....

[petegz28]

I swear everytime Maier is in the OF he collides with someone

[sportsman1]

Haha tonights abomination of a game didn't even get its own thread. I'm glad I turned it off at 4-1.

[petegz28]

Chalk up another loss....

[Mama Hip Rockets]

is there no one in this world better than ponson that they can throw out there? someone in the minors, or off the streets perhaps?

[DeezNutz]

Haha tonights abomination of a game didn't even get its own thread. I'm glad I turned it off at 4-1.

Everyone, posters and players alike, have quit.

[sportsman1]

I was contemplating going to the game Wednesday, but lost my desire to go. That is true.

[Sure-Oz]

Everyone, posters and players alike, have quit.

Chiefs season is upon us as well.....what an abortion of a season for the royals, and that takes alot. Atleast Greinke has become our ace.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Chiefs season is upon us as well.....what an abortion of a season for the royals, and that takes alot. Atleast Greinke has become our ace.

well, ponson is giving him some significant competition for that title.

[Sure-Oz]

haha....

right now mlb network is showing game 6 of the WS in 85...sigh

[Sure-Oz]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=4370512

Deadline winners and losers.....guess which category the royals made

KANSAS CITY ROYALS
IN: OF Josh Anderson, INF/OF Ryan Freel, SS Yuniesky Betancourt
OUT: P Danny Cortes, P Derrick Saito
They liked their team in April, when they got off to that magical 18-11 start. They insist they still like it as they head into August, even though they won just 19 of their next 59 games. But it's tough to look at the Royals' roster and find more than two cornerstone players (Zack Greinke and Joakim Soria). So although this was another team that had reasonable explanations for not dealing anyone from Mark Teahen to Willie Bloomquist, it's still hard to think the Royals didn't miss an opportunity to change their mix and upgrade their system, at least a little.

"The one guy they really had a desire to move was [Gil] Meche," one exec said. "And then they couldn't even move him because he was hurt."

"I guess they like their team," another NL executive said. "But from afar, it's just hard to understand."

[Gonzo]

MLB Channel has the 85 world series on right now.

(Sry if repost)

[sedated]

I was contemplating going to the game Wednesday, but lost my desire to go. That is true.

they should discount the food and beer prices now that the last 3 months are a waste. I'd go out there if beer was $3 and a hot dog was $2.

[Sure-Oz]

they should discount the food and beer prices now that the last 3 months are a waste. I'd go out there if beer was $3 and a hot dog was $2.

Only reason for me to go is promo's really now, and buck night

[sportsman1]

Am I the only one that turned on this abortion of a baseball game? They are making an ass of KC on national TV. Little League teams have looked more professional. Inside the park'er on an error. I think I'll go the lake. F- this.

[Reaper16]

Am I the only one that turned on this abortion of a baseball game? They are making an ass of KC on national TV. Little League teams have looked more professional. Inside the park'er on an error. I think I'll go the lake. F- this.
Nothing says "nationally televised baseball" quite like a Bruce Chen start.

[petegz28]

Chen allowed only 3 runs.....Wright allowed another 2 in 1/3 and now Bale walked his 1st batter to load the bases with 0 out

[petegz28]

And the 6th run scores as Pena cannot hold onto the ball for the force at the plate cause AC made a terrible throw. AC charged with a throwing "erra"...his 2nd of the day

[petegz28]

Royals hav allowed 7+ runs now in 4 straight games.....the Pen is on the hook for 4 today so far

[KCCHIEFS27]

Well the American public sure has been treated to a great game today.

[Sure-Oz]

I love how we have Kila in AAA with a .403 OBP and near .900 ops yet he may never make it up here cause his bat is 'slow'. I really hate seeing a scrub like jacobs taking a roster spot when kila could be here. I hope he turns into Carlos Pena, with a solid avg. Everyday my hatred for glass and DAYTON MOORE grow...hell i dont even hate trey near as much since he's trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit...and yes i know trey blows.

[Sure-Oz]

Here comes Mitch Maier who hopes he can live up to his potential of being Willie Bloomquist 2

[Mecca]

I love how we have Kila in AAA with a .403 OBP and near .900 ops yet he may never make it up here cause his bat is 'slow'. I really hate seeing a scrub like jacobs taking a roster spot when kila could be here. I hope he turns into Carlos Pena, with a solid avg. Everyday my hatred for glass and pena grow...hell i dont even hate trey near as much since he's trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit...and yes i know trey blows.

Did you forget?

Dayton Moore does not care about OBP, if you have a high one you don't get to play for the Royals.

[Sure-Oz]

Did you forget?

Dayton Moore does not care about OBP, if you have a high one you don't get to play for the Royals.

im sure he'll tell bannister to stop looking at stats to better himself against hitters and focus on his throws now too

i have no idea why i put pena as my hatred, i meant DM

[Mizzou_8541]

According the MLB.com, we have the scored the second fewest runs....

Not in the American League...

but in all of major league baseball!!!! WTH? How is that possible?

[MVChiefFan]

According the MLB.com, we have the scored the second fewest runs....

Not in the American League...

but in all of major league baseball!!!! WTH? How is that possible?

DeJesus
Bloomquist
Teahen
Butler
Jacobs
Gordon...should I keep going?

[Sure-Oz]

A team full of guys who can't get on base and your best hitters in the meat of the lineup are true #6 hitters at best on any other roster....that explains it.

[Gadzooks]

A team full of guys who can't get on base and your best hitters in the meat of the lineup are true #6 hitters at best on any other roster....that explains it.

Yeah, I agree

[petegz28]

Royals up 2-0 in the 9th...Soria was actually called in to get 6 outs.....and he made Upton and Crawford look bad....very bad

on a side note....Hillman pulls Benetencourt to put Bloomy at SS as a defensive move......

[chiefqueen]

Now that we're up 4 do we keep Soria in or save him for tomorrow?

[petegz28]

Now that we're up 4 do we keep Soria in or save him for tomorrow?

I bet he keeps him in

[chiefqueen]

David, you should have grabbed a hot dog while you're over there.

[MIAdragon]

Now that we're up 4 do we keep Soria in or save him for tomorrow?

win the games you can.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Now that we're up 4 do we keep Soria in or save him for tomorrow?

There's a tomorrow?

[Demonpenz]

Looking towards the future on the farm. Moosetacos hasn't hit for much power
but the ball park down in willington is large. The royals for how
cheap they have been have a chance to really step up their game
down in the minor leagues. Aaron Crow is a person that can get to the Majors very quickly. Will Meyers is an athlete. Catcher for now that is really skinny, but he may get bigger could play 3rd base or corner outfield. People compare him to Dale Murphy. Looking at the draft last year Hosmer Tim Melville John Lamb. Hosmer huge power 1 base, Melville had first round talent, but was drafted in later rounds.

[DeezNutz]

Soria is not a 5-out closer.

He can get 4 outs, sometimes even 6 outs, but never 5.

[petegz28]

Soria is not a 5-out closer.

He can get 4 outs, sometimes even 6 outs, but never 5.

Funny how that works.....

methinks Dayton had a talk with Hillman on the use or lack thereof, of a well-rested Soria.

[sportsman1]

So were going to sweep Seattle right?

[Sure-Oz]

I might go to the game friday or saturday for the hell of it, ive only been to 2 games this year, im 1-1 baby!

[sportsman1]

Yeah I was thinking about saturday myself. This home-stand is one that we should be able to have a winning record in.

[Sure-Oz]

Yeah I was thinking about saturday myself. This home-stand is one that we should be able to have a winning record in.

Saturday is frank white replica statue, pick your poison i guess, friday is fireworks of course

[petegz28]

I might go to the game friday or saturday for the hell of it, ive only been to 2 games this year, im 1-1 baby!

I'm there Friday and Sunday

[Sure-Oz]

Ryan Freel-OF-Royals Aug. 5 - 4:16 pm et

The Royals are reportedly designating Ryan Freel for assignment to make room for Wednesday's starter, Kyle Davies.

The next team Freel plays for this season will be his fourth. The veteran has hit .244 (11-for-45) for the Royals after already being traded by the Orioles and Cubs this season.
Source: Kansas City Star

[ChiTown]

Ryan Freel-OF-Royals Aug. 5 - 4:16 pm et

The Royals are reportedly designating Ryan Freel for assignment to make room for Wednesday's starter, Kyle Davies.

The next team Freel plays for this season will be his fourth. The veteran has hit .244 (11-for-45) for the Royals after already being traded by the Orioles and Cubs this season.
Source: Kansas City Star

To the Battleship Galactica!

[Demonpenz]

To the Battleship Galactica!

hehehehehe

[Sure-Oz]

Hillman will manage tonight yes!111111111111111111

[DeezNutz]

I pay attention out of habit, but damn.

Heard today that post 18-11, we've officially past the Nats as the worst team in the league.

Everyone involved in constructing this sack of shit can go fuck themselves. No more excuses, right Dayton? Your words. Funny how all you've done lately is construct artificial reasons for your failings.

[Sure-Oz]

John gibbons sounds like he has had a few drinks when he talks

[DeezNutz]

John gibbons sounds like he has had a few drinks when he talks

Anyone who sits on the bench and nods his head while Hillman makes Trey-like moves is either painfully stupid or absolutely spineless.

I'd like to flush this entire organization, but it wouldn't come out like Brett's double-tapered shit.

[Sure-Oz]

Anyone who sits on the bench and nods his head while Hillman makes Trey-like moves is either painfully stupid or absolutely spineless.

I'd like to flush this entire organization, but it wouldn't come out like Brett's double-tapered shit.

He may be stupid, but im sure he isn't spineless. Didn't he try to fight one of his own players in toronto?ROFL

I love how the Royals telecast sounds stoked about Anderson joining the club. I'm sure DM high fived everyone when he got him.

[Sure-Oz]

Wow josh anderson looks like ryan freel minus 7 years

[DeezNutz]

He may be stupid, but im sure he isn't spineless. Didn't he try to fight one of his own players in toronto?ROFL

I love how the Royals telecast sounds stoked about Anderson joining the club. I'm sure DM high fived everyone when he got him.

Well, I don't know what to say then. If he's neither stupid or a yes man, how does he sit idle during same huge mistakes.

Take the Soria example. For consecutive days, Hillman will not use him for more than 4 outs. Magically, this changes when "desperate times call for desperate measures." Seriously???? WTF? Now Soria is a two-inning guy. Wow.

You stupid fucks. The season is over. It couldn't be any further from desperation at this point.

[Sure-Oz]

Well, I don't know what to say then. If he's neither stupid or a yes man, how does he sit idle during same huge mistakes.

Take the Soria example. For consecutive days, Hillman will not use him for more than 4 outs. Magically, this changes when "desperate times call for desperate measures." Seriously???? WTF? Now Soria is a two-inning guy. Wow.

You stupid ****s. The season is over. It couldn't be any further from desperation at this point.

Maybe Gibbons is laughing cause maybe he'll have the 1st opp at the job? Or laughing that he gets paid alot for eating sunflower seeds?

[Sure-Oz]

I'd say this is Kyle's last stint with us...he better have his shit figured out

[Sure-Oz]

LMAO the telecast just said that betancourts hit for the cycle in his last 2 games combined

WOW, who fucking cares

[Sure-Oz]

kyle davies still sucks

[DeezNutz]

Trust the process.

[Sure-Oz]

Billy with the 2 run blast! that power is cominggggggggggggggggg eat

[Demonpenz]

why the fuck is billy caddy-ing around the fucking bases on a ball that went 385 and we are 30 games out of first. I kinda hope he gets drilled in the back

[Sure-Oz]

Davies throws it CF, worst team ever

[Sure-Oz]

Yes another passed ball for a run

[Sure-Oz]

I think im actually not going to go to a game this weekend, i'd rather punch my own nuts

[Sure-Oz]

lmfao kyle davies go back to atl you fuck

[Mecca]

lmfao kyle davies go back to atl you fuck

Outstanding trade that was.

[petegz28]

JFC this team sucks

[Sure-Oz]

3.2 ip 8 hits 8 runs for davies

wonderful

[petegz28]

3.2 ip 8 hits 8 runs for davies

wonderful

It isn't like we could have used Dotel...LMAO....our Pen doesn't miss him at all..

[CHENZ A!]

LMAO the telecast just said that betancourts hit for the cycle in his last 2 games combined

WOW, who ****ing cares

The only thing fun about watching this team anymore is hearing Ryan and Frank's growing sarcasm. Last week Ryan said. "Freel is the best player on the Royals at inducing catcher interference." LMAO

Thank god I just leave the game on in the background as I do other things. If I sat on the couch and watched for 10 min I'd either fall asleep or punch a whole in the wall. How can a team be so frustrating, and yet so boring at the same time?

[Sure-Oz]

LMFAO Frank is saying the royals have alot of time in this ballgame

[Sure-Oz]

LMFAO a gift triple, that shouldve been an inside the park error if olivo actually fucking ran

[Sure-Oz]

Gordon fucking crushes it to right

[Sure-Oz]

Fucking beautiful stroke there, damnit gordon be consistent you fucker

[Mecca]

Gordon is like Teahen hitting HRs when they are losing by 6 runs.

[DeezNutz]

Gordon is like Teahen.

FYP.

Same person. Gordon = Teahen in pretty much all respects.

[Sure-Oz]

FYP.

Same person. Gordon = Teahen in pretty much all respects.

32 rbis and 9 hrs is def. obtainable

[Sure-Oz]

mitch maier swings like a girl

[Sure-Oz]

wow, they show franks statue, and ryan mentions for the 74th time that it looks like reggie jackson just hit into a double play

stfu ryan

MAIER 1st ROUND PICK SINGLE

[BWillie]

wow, they show franks statue, and ryan mentions for the 74th time that it looks like reggie jackson just hit into a double play

stfu ryan

MAIER 1st ROUND PICK SINGLE

It already looks like Eric Hosmer can't hit for power too.

[Sure-Oz]

It already looks like Eric Hosmer can't hit for power too.

They compared him to Casey Kotchman potential, that fucker can't hit HR's either

[DeezNutz]

It already looks like Eric Hosmer can't hit for power too.

Dude...he's, what, 19?

Little bit of patience needed here.

Bigger problems are lack of plate discipline and overall athleticism. With his makeup, he damn well better hit for power.

[Sure-Oz]

Dude...he's, what, 19?

Little bit of patience needed here.

Bigger problems are lack of plate discipline and overall athleticism. With his makeup, he damn well better hit for power.

No shit, we need someone to fucking pan out....

that said he hit his 1st HR since moving up, its taken 60 abs

His career minor league slugging % so for is in the .360's

[Sure-Oz]

LMFAO a cat is on the field and its not slugger

[Sure-Oz]

They got the cat through the bullpen....great defense by royals security, put them on the field

[DeezNutz]

The cat is the Royals season highlight.

Maybe the most enjoyable 30 secs of any telecast this season.

[Sure-Oz]

The cat is the Royals season highlight.

Maybe the most enjoyable 30 secs of any telecast this season.

That cat should be our rally monkey! Running away from the opposition!

[Sure-Oz]

It's too bad this wasn't keyboard cat so he could play off our team

[Sure-Oz]

bases loaded and teahen swings at ball 3, a pitch practically on the ground

the dude has zero plate discipline with runners on

[DeezNutz]

Fundamentals.

This team is such a fucking embarrassment.

[petegz28]

bases loaded and teahen swings at ball 3, a pitch practically on the ground

the dude has zero plate discipline with runners on

I' m half-ass watching the game...I told my wife when they brought in the reliever that Teahen would swing at the 1st pitch....I wish I could bet, Vegas style, on his plate appearances.

[Demonpenz]

i think i heard guy ferrari yell PICKLE when that cat was on the field

[sportsman1]

I didn't watch tonight. Was Davies bad?

[DeezNutz]

Cruz has sucked so much this season that he's up for an AVN for breakthrough performance.

[Sure-Oz]

Cruz is about as big of a bust as Juan Gone was

[Reaper16]

It already looks like Eric Hosmer can't hit for power too.
Both of the Royals A-Ball leagues are VERY pitcher friendly, especially their home ball parks. Before Dayton Moore, the Royals had their high-A team out West, which was hitter friendly. Billy Butler had like 30+ HR's in his high-A year.

[SPchief]

I didn't watch tonight. Was Davies bad?

Slightly

[Demonpenz]

Both of the Royals A-Ball leagues are VERY pitcher friendly, especially their home ball parks. Before Dayton Moore, the Royals had their high-A team out West, which was hitter friendly. Billy Butler had like 30+ HR's in his high-A year.

Hosmer has power from what every scout says. I doubt they are wrong. Now making SOLID contact that could be a problem ;)

[DeezNutz]

Hosmer has power from what every scout says. I doubt they are wrong. Now making SOLID contact that could be a problem ;)

Eh. Contact is overrated.

[ChiTown]

Fundamentals.

This team is such a ****ing embarrassment.

But, it has nothing to do with the Coaching/Management.

/Dick KegelMuscles

[DeezNutz]

But, it has nothing to do with the Coaching/Management.

/Dick KegelMuscles

My post was obtuse, but the outburst was preceded by Maier missing the cut, big surprise to see this from our OF, and then Olivo and Unicorn tossing it all over the infield.

Seriously...

[ChiTown]

My post was obtuse, but the outburst was preceded by Maier missing the cut, big surprise to see this from our OF, and then Olivo and Unicorn tossing it all over the infield.

Seriously...

I stand by my reporting................

/Dick KegelMuscles

[DJ's left nut]

A race you can look forward to -

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/washington-not-the-worst

[gblowfish]

Royals season just keeps getting weirder and weirder...
This is the same team that lost a game earlier this year when a fly ball to center hit a sea gull in Cleveland...

Latest fur ball: Royals cough up another loss
By BOB DUTTON
The Kansas City Star
A scared cat had seen enough of the Royals on Wednesday.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals ... 67506.html

The highlight Wednesday night at Kauffman Stadium — judging by the cheers from the crowd — came in the Seattle fifth inning when a cat came charging onto the field from who knows where.

The interruption did dull the pain momentarily from this latest Royals’ loss — a numbing 11-6 drubbing in which Kyle Davies marked his return from the minors by surrendering eight runs in just 3 2/3 innings

The Mariners scored six times in a decisive fourth inning, including four with two outs, while sending 10 men to the plate.

The Royals produced a 12-hit attack that included Gordon’s first three-hit game since returning from a three-month absence following hip surgery. Gordon and Billy Butler each hit homers. Butler finished with three RBIs.

With all that, it still wasn’t close.

Seattle had 16 hits, including at least one from every starter. Russell Branyan and José Lopez each had three RBIs.

It could have been worse. The crowd of 27,805 loved the cat.

[Demonpenz]

when that cat came out I yelled at the TV STAY AWAY FROM ICHIRO!

[KCUnited]

27,805? Jesus.

[gblowfish]

RALLY CAT!!!

[Sure-Oz]

Juan Cruz to the DL (strained elbow)

Waechter called up

[Sure-Oz]

We have a new cleanup hitter ladies and gentleman......BRAYAN PENA starting tonight at the #4 spot....


to the craphole!

[ChiTown]

We have a new cleanup hitter ladies and gentleman......BRAYAN PENA starting tonight at the #4 spot....


to the craphole!

Awesome!

:LOL:

This team gets better and better everyday.....by that, I mean, more amusing.

[Sure-Oz]

http://royalsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/416

Sam Mellingers latest

Billy Butler is hitting like an emerging superstar, so should the Royals try to lock him up long term?

The Royals are going nowhere, bad team, bullpen, disappointing, 18-11, Trey's facial hair, process, yackity yackity yack.

OK, with the obligatory bashing out of the way, we're using today for one more look at the emerging star that is Billy Butler.

That homer last night banged off the Royals' Hall of Fame building behind the left field seats, and I'm sure there have been others, but the only other guy I can think of who did that this year was Albert Pujols.

Anyway, Butler is now hitting .294/.351/.472 for a 117 OPS+, and we can continue to be cynical and say that his .823 OPS still ranks just ninth among 10 qualifying American League first basemen, or we can choose to open ourselves up a little bit and believe what we're seeing.

Billy's on pace for 20 homers and 48 doubles, legitimate big-time numbers, especially for a guy who -- it's easy to forget this -- just turned 23 in April.

These aren't unprecedented numbers, of course, but you have to be encouraged by the company he's keeping.

This year, there are four others Billy's age or younger matching his OPS+. They are Evan Longoria, Pablo Sandoval, Adam Jones and Justin Upton.

Here is the list of guys to do it in the last five years: B.J. Upton, Hanley Ramirez, Nick Markakis, Prince Fielder, Grady Sizemore, Robinson Cano, Joe Mauer, Miguel Cabrera, David Wright, and Jhonny Peralta.

Here is the list of 23-year-olds to hit 20 homers with 48 doubles in baseball history: Ramirez, Cabrera, Sizemore, Albert Pujols, Alex Rodriguez and Hank Greenberg.

Put those lists together and you're looking at one guy who's in the Hall of Fame, several more who are going there, a few with a shot, and then some scrubs who are merely really good players.

Billy still scuffles at time in the field, and, let's be honest here, outside of hitting, really doesn't do any baseball-related skill even average.

But it's a hell of a skill to have, one the Royals are absolutely desperate for, one that will earn Billy -- at least -- tens of millions of dollars, and here's where we get to the point.

When should the Royals start thinking about locking him up long-term?

When does the risk of him regressing become too small in the face of what will likely be a rising cost?

Billy will most likely have one more year before he hits arbitration, which would make him a free agent after the 2013 season.

There's plenty of time there, and the Royals probably won't feel rushed to get something worked out for at least a few years.

But if there is an early judgment to be made, Billy's putting together the type of career from a homegrown prospect that the Royals have publicly said is important for them to sign long-term.

[Fish]

We have a new cleanup hitter ladies and gentleman......BRAYAN PENA starting tonight at the #4 spot....


to the craphole!

:banghead:

:cuss:

Go Royals!

[Demonpenz]

butler uses ALL FIELDS. that BA will stay up there if he uses that. He also has power to most the field.

[Sure-Oz]

:banghead:

:cuss:

Go Royals!

1-0 with pena at cleanup!!!!!!!11 and won convincingly

we confuse the opposition with him in there, he'll make others better just like tyson jackson!111

[DeezNutz]

As if we needed more reasons to jump off the metaphoric bridge, Rany provides the shove (www.ranyontheroyals.com):

Minor League Update, Part 1.

First off, I owe you guys an apology. On our radio show this Monday, Jason Anderson and I started the show by promising to stay positive for the duration of the show…and then we spent the next hour ripping the team from every direction. It wasn’t intentional, I assure you. It’s just that the abyss has become so deep that I simply can’t find an angle that portrays the Royals in a positive fashion. Some people are so ugly that no trick of lighting can flatter them.

This is where we’re at: three months after the Royals were 18-11 – the front office has made sure that none of us will ever forget the 2009 Royals’ record after 29 games – they have the worst record in the American League, and the second-worst record in the major leagues. Call me an unrepentant optimist, but even the most hardened cynic could not have imagined in May – or even a month ago – that we’d be in the running for the Bryce Harper Sweepstakes. I never would have imagined that, come August, I’d be scoreboard watching the Nationals in the hopes that Washington might go on a hot stretch (five in a row, baby! Just five games back!), or rooting for their negotiations with Stephen Strasburg to go fubar.

Instead, if the season ended today the Royals would draft in the top 3 next year – meaning they were one of the three worst teams in baseball this year – for the fifth time in six seasons. They’d draft in the top 2 for the fourth time in six seasons. Three years after we thought we hit bottom, three years after Dayton Moore told us where the parade would be held, we’re once again forced to subsist on nothing but dreams of a Tuesday in June – and hoping that this time we strike gold with a Top-3 pick.

And on that note, and because I’m trying to find that something positive, it’s time to take a long look at the minor leagues. As horrible as the team that Dayton Moore has fashioned is, he wasn’t brought in simply to fix the major league roster – he was brought in to fix the organization. And one of the reasons I was so positive about his hiring for so long was that he seemed to determine to fix the organization the right way – by expending every possible resource towards building the farm system. Over the last three years the Royals have spent all kinds of resources on the minors, not just in terms of money – they spent a major-league record $11 million on their draft picks last season – but in terms of things like having a seventh minor league team, and opening a new academy in the Dominican (granted, something that was in the works before Dayton was hired).

The Royals dug themselves into the hole they’ve been in since 2004 by neglecting the farm system for 15 years. (From 1993 to 2001, the Royals had fifteen first-round picks – and Mike MacDougal has turned out to be the best of them. Mike Macdougal.) It was going to take years of successful drafting and development to reverse that trend, and if you told me in 2006 that the Royals would continue to suck for three or four years before the farm system burst forth with talent? That’s a trade I would have made – if the farm system burst forth.

So that’s ultimately the question: while we’ve all been watching the team in Kansas City burn to the ground, have the Royals been quietly planting the seeds for the team’s renaissance in places like Springdale and Wilmington and Burlington? If so, all the sins of 2009 may be forgiven; if not, well, judgment is nigh.

Unfortunately, the most recent organization-wide assessment of the Royals’ farm system came from Baseball America three weeks ago, and it was less an assessment than an indictment. The Royals were listed as one of three organizations “headed down” based on how their top prospects have fared since the start of the season, including this comment: “Not much has gone right in the minors, from modest seasons by power plants Eric Hosmer and Mike Moustakas to spotty pitching at upper levels.”

Well, then. If that’s indeed the case – if the Royals have endured as much disappointment in the minor leagues as they have in the majors – then it’s time to turn out the lights. But is that a fair assessment? There’s only one way to find out.

Over the next few posts, I’m going to take a look at how the Royals’ top 30 prospects from before the season – as judged by Baseball America – have fared this year. For each player I will also assign a letter grade based on whether they appear to have a brighter future today than they did in March. I’ll go with a B- curve – a B- grade means the player has essentially the same outlook today as they did before the season. Keep in mind that the grade takes into account the player’s standing – a B- grade for your #1 prospect is a fine grade, because it means that he still projects as a #1 prospect. On the other hand, an A- grade for your #30 prospect means that he might have elevated his stock into the 11-20 range – he’s gone from a long-shot to make the majors to maybe projecting as a bench player, hardly something to get excited about.

Here we go. Each player’s age is as of July 1st, 2009:

1) Mike Moustakas, 3B, 20. Right from the start, we’ve got a disappointment. Moustakas hit .272/.337/.468 last season and led the Midwest League in homers, the first teenager to do so in over a decade. Promoted to Wilmington this year, he’s hitting just .254/.297/.419, and the reviews of his defense at third base are unflattering enough that it’s likely he’ll have to change his position again before he reaches the majors.

In his defense, we would like to call Frawley Stadium to the stand. The Blue Rocks’ home ballpark is one of the best pitchers’ parks in the minor leagues, and when evaluating Wilmington players, that must be taken into account. At home, Moustakas is hitting .201/.262/.356; on the road he’s hitting .295/.326/.468, which is eerily similar to his numbers from last season.

I’ve said this many times before, but the ballpark effect for the Blue Rocks is so significant that hitters promoted from A-ball to Double-A typically hit better at the higher level. Just this season we have two terrific examples of this, in Jeff Bianchi (.300/.360/.427 in Wilmington, .325/.371/.450 for Northwest Arkansas) and David Lough (.320/.370/.473 vs. .331/.368/.500).

My favorite example of this is Carlos Beltran, who in 1997, at age 20 – the same age as Moustakas right now – hit a puny .229/.311/.363 for the Blue Rocks. The following year, he returned to Wilmington and hit .276/.364/.427, was promoted at mid-season and hit .352/.427/.687 in Double-A. The following year he was the AL Rookie of the Year. Johnny Damon hit .316/.399/.462 for Wilmington when he was 20 – the following year he hit .343/.434/.534 for Wichita and was considered the best prospect in baseball when he was promoted to Kansas City in August.

So it’s way, way, way too early to write off Moustakas as a bust. My concern isn’t with who Moustakas is, it’s with who he’s not. He’s not Rick Porcello, who’s an above-average major-league starter at age 20. He’s not Matt Wieters, who’s enjoying a solid season as the Orioles’ rookie catcher after entering the season as the #1 prospect in baseball. He’s not Jason Heyward, who doesn’t turn 20 until next week and is hitting .422/.505/.722 since being promoted to Double-A last month – with Wieters now in the major leagues, Heyward has taken his spot as the #1 prospect in baseball. Porcello, Wieters, and Heyward were all selected in the top half of the first round in 2007; most observers considered Porcello the second-best player in the draft after David Price, and most considered Wieters third. The Royals decided they couldn’t afford either player – for all the money they’ve spent in the draft the last few years, they chose an awfully inopportune time to save money. And instead of considering Heyward, who BA dubbed the steal of the draft from the moment he dropped to #14 overall, the Royals took Moustakas.

(An underappreciated side effect of the Royals’ disdain for statistics is that they don’t seem to understand the critical importance of age and how it relates to draft picks. The team frequently drafts players who are old for their grade, whether high school senior or college junior. Case in point: Moustakas was born on September 11th, 1988, meaning he turned 18 just a month after he signed. Heyward and Josh Vitters, who the Royals nearly took instead of Moustakas before changing their mind at the last moment, were both born in August, 1989.

A year of development doesn’t mean much when comparing a 27-year-old to a 28-year-old – but when comparing a 17-year-old to an 18-year-old, it’s critical. It remains to be seen whether the Royals should have taken Vitters or not – after a monster start in low-A ball this year, Vitters has struggled since joining Moustakas in high-A ball. But Heyward, like a couple of other 17-year-old hitters drafted in the first round (Ken Griffey Jr. and Alex Rodriguez), has made a quantum leap in development from age 17 to age 19, and now sits at the doorstep of the major leagues. If the Braves make the playoffs, he could be their version of Andruw Jones, the preternatural rookie who makes a postseason impact before he’s legally eligible to partake in the champagne bath afterwards.

Oh, and Moustakas’ teammate at Chatsworth High, fellow first-rounder Matt Dominguez, was also born in August 1989. Dominguez just got promoted to Double-A as well.)

But getting back to Moustakas…he has been disappointing this year, certainly, but not critically so. It’s not hard at all to envision a scenario in which he goes to Springdale next spring, hits .300 with power, and becomes a trendy Rookie of the Year candidate for 2011. But next year is crucial for him. He’s been passed by enough fellow first-round picks as it is. Grade: C-.

2) Eric Hosmer, 1B, 19. The second of the Royals’ Twin Towers, Hosmer is having an equally disappointing season. Hosmer was sent to Burlington and was expected to exceed Moustakas’ performance there last year, but instead hit just .254/.352/.382, with a puny five homers in 79 games. He struck out in nearly a quarter of his at-bats (68 of 280), and scouts were critical of the fact that he stood too far away from the plate, making him vulnerable to outside pitches. He changed his stance last month, started to hit a little better, and the Royals decided to promote him to Wilmington despite his struggles – in 14 games so far, he’s hitting .208 with just two extra-base hits. He does take walks, but the light-tower power that we were promised has yet to materialize outside of batting practice.

If it’s too early to write off Moustakas, it’s way too early to write off Hosmer…but as I said on draft day last year, if the point of drafting Hosmer is that in three years he’ll be one of the best hitters in the minor leagues, why not draft the college guy who will be one of the best hitters in the minors the day he signs? The Royals passed on Justin Smoak, who fell to the 11th overall pick, and Smoak is hitting .295/.407/.460 this year and is already in Triple-A.

At the beginning of the year, there was a lot of controversy over which prospect rated higher – BA had Moustakas #1, but BP had Hosmer #1. We’re going to have the same debate this off-season, for all the wrong reasons. Unless Hosmer starts to rake a little for the Blue Rocks this month, he’s had the slightly more disappointing season, and the relative rankings of these two players won’t change. Grade: D+.

3) Danny Cortes, RHP, 22. Yeah, because I really want to relive this again. Cortes was having a truly disappointing season – his walks were way up, his strikeouts down, despite repeating Double-A – before he was traded for Yuniesky Betancourt. (If Alexei Ramirez is the Cuban Missile, can Betancourt just be the Cuban Crisis?) Since the trade he has made four starts with the Mariners, and continues to walk guys (13 in 20 IP), but at least he’s getting the strikeouts (22). It’s easy to forget: he’s just 22, younger than Aaron Crow, and he still has the power stuff, he’s just lost his command. I have this sinking feeling that he’s going to arrive late next year as a shutdown setup man for the Mariners. For metamorphosing into Betancourt, I’m tempted to give him an F- grade, but based on his actual performance, Grade: D.

4) Michael Montgomery, LHP, 20. Like so many other Royals prospect, he was old for his draft class – he actually turned 20 on July 1st, just a year after he was drafted – but unlike so many others, he’s developing nicely. In 12 starts for Burlington he had a 2.17 ERA, with 52 Ks in 58 innings, before he was promoted to Wilmington – he’s allowed three runs in nine innings so far. When Cortes was traded there was a lot of talk about Danny Duffy being the Royals’ best pitching prospect, but I still think Montgomery is better. His velocity is a tick better – sitting in the low 90s as opposed to touching the low 90s – and his body has a little more projection than Duffy’s does. The Royals have a ton of high-upside arms in their farm system, but Montgomery might have the highest upside of them all. If Moustakas and Hosmer don’t get it going soon, Montgomery’s a legitimate candidate to be rated the #1 prospect in the organization at year’s end. Grade: B+.

5) Tim Melville, RHP, 19. The Royals signed Melville, a Missouri high school product, in the fourth round last year when he fell from his projection as a late first-round pick because of signability concerns. His selection may well represent a tipping point in the history of the Royals’ draft – the moment when the Royals went from being one of the victims of the draft’s economics to one of the aggressors. Before Melville, the last time the Royals got a first-round talent this late in the draft was probably Bo Jackson in 1986.

Melville started the year in extended spring training, but debuted with Burlington in May and has been consistently good, not great, all season. In 15 starts he’s thrown 68 innings, allowed 64 hits, walked 29, struck out 65, and surrendered 6 homers. There’s some hint that he may be improving as the season goes on – in his last six starts he has a K/BB ratio of 35/11 in just 28 innings. The perfect Grade: B- guy – he’s exactly what we thought he was at the beginning of the year. That’s a compliment.

[DeezNutz]

Bannister, after getting roughed up tonight, points out that his arm was a little heavy coming off an outing with his highest pitch count of the season.

LMAO

Made me wonder if he was attempting to speak directly to Trey and Dayton.

[Reaper16]

Zach looking poor again for the second consecutive start. :(

[Sure-Oz]

zack is pressing

[Sure-Oz]

jacobs hit a meaningful 2 run HR to give us the lead and now olivo has hit a HR 5-3 royals, lets get zack and these armed forces a W

[Reaper16]

The pitch that Jacobs took out was right in his wheelhouse. Why do pitchers ever, ever pitch Jacobs in that location?

[DeezNutz]

If we lose the Bryce Harper sweepstakes, I'm going to be pissed.

[BAS]

Today is turning out to be a good day for KC Sports: DT gets enshrined, and our CY Young candidate gets some run support for the first time in well over a month...we will see how the day ends.

[Sure-Oz]

If we lose the Bryce Harper sweepstakes, I'm going to be pissed.

Don't worry if we get the chance to draft him he'll re-enter anyway

[Sure-Oz]

8-3 royals domination, looks like zack finally should get a W, the run support he's getting over the past 9 starts should jump up to just above 2 runs a game now

[Fish]

I have never seen a team that is so terrible with men left on base. And it's not like you can practice that, or teach it. This team is just terrible under pressure.

[Sure-Oz]

Soria giving up 2 hrs in the 9th wtf

12-5 royals now

[Sure-Oz]

Wow soria really pissed at himself....i have never seen that

[Sure-Oz]

soria giving up 3 runs in he 9th....12-6 now royals 2 outs

[Sure-Oz]

Soria disgusted with himself after he finally ends the game with a K

gotta love to see the mexicutioner have the fire...

[Sure-Oz]

Glad the royals dominated tonight with it being armed forces night at the K

[BAS]

...and the Royals match their highest run total of the season. Cube was right: today was a good day.

[Priest31kc]

Soria didnt pitch FOR SIX DAYS. Thats an eternity for a relief pitcher. I do not blame Soria for those 2 HRs and 3 ER, I blame Hillman for not pitching him for 6 days. What do you expect?

Oh and Billy Butler is becoming a STUD. He's now batting .300, 36 doubles which is 2nd in the majors, 13 HRs and 57 RBI. He could potentially get to 50 doubles and 20 HRs this year and bat over .300. 20 HRs at the age of 23 is damn impressive, also considering people complain about his power numbers. Some of those doubles would be HRs in most parks.

[DeezNutz]

Expect a delay in the potential signing of Aaron Crow. The Royals have offered $3M, but, according to Petro, Crow's agents are asking for...$12M. LMAO.

Obviously, lots could happen over the weekend, but Crow is not limited to the midnight deadline on the 17th, so he could continue to posture. I can't imagine someone sitting out 2 years, but, whatever.

Honestly, I could care less. Like a lot of Dayton's other first-round selections, I think this pick was a mistake.

[sedated]

I think I heard that we've spent 11 million on this years draft, which is a MLB record. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And Rany said the pitchers we got in the rounds 2-4 were each 1st round talent.

[Demonpenz]

Do we get an extra pick next year if we don't get him signed?

[Sure-Oz]

Expect a delay in the potential signing of Aaron Crow. The Royals have offered $3M, but, according to Petro, Crow's agents are asking for...$12M. LMAO.

Obviously, lots could happen over the weekend, but Crow is not limited to the midnight deadline on the 17th, so he could continue to posture. I can't imagine someone sitting out 2 years, but, whatever.

Honestly, I could care less. Like a lot of Dayton's other first-round selections, I think this pick was a mistake.

He can wait until a week or so before the 2010 draft.....Crow won't sit out again, it would be career suicide.

[DeezNutz]

Do we get an extra pick next year if we don't get him signed?

Yep.

Original slot + one. I believe Crow was the #12 overall, right? So we'd have the #13 next year, in addition to pick #1-3, depending upon how effectively we continue to suck.

Our luck, we'll sweep the final series and miss out on Harper (assuming DM would be smart enough to take the position player, which I doubt, so the point is moot...).

[CHENZ A!]

come on fucker how about a 2 out hit for Zack's sake.

[Sure-Oz]

I love how DDJ swung at the 1st pitch, great patience idiot

[CHENZ A!]

I hate DDJ. Why every Royals fan is in love with him and that Teahen asshole is beyond me.

[Demonpenz]

I hate DDJ. Why every Royals fan is in love with him and that Teahen asshole is beyond me.

who is the last person that loves DDJ that you know of? There is a weird thing going on when die hard fans assume regular fans love DDJ and Teahen. They don't no one loves anyone on this team unless they are stupid, dumb or girls that just like knowing who plays for the royals

[DeezNutz]

Does anyone give a **** about today's draft deadline and the Crow negotiations?

If the kid is interested in being a ML player, he needs to get signed tonight. Putting the thing off would be epically stupid for Crow, and only emphasize the stupidity of the Royals for selecting him in the first place.

Does this bitch want to play ball or not?

[Reaper16]

Does anyone give a **** about today's draft deadline and the Crow negotiations?

If the kid is interested in being a ML player, he needs to get signed tonight. Putting the thing off would be epically stupid for Crow, and only emphasize the stupidity of the Royals for selecting him in the first place.

Does this bitch want to play ball or not?
Tonight's deadline doesn't apply to Crow. I'd sure like for him to be signed soon, though.

[Demonpenz]

I hope he doesn't sign. It's just good entertainmen

[DeezNutz]

Tonight's deadline doesn't apply to Crow. I'd sure like for him to be signed soon, though.

That's why I mentioned that he needs to sign if he's interested in being a ML player. Though he's not forced to do anything, he's already wasted 1 season, and he needs to get started. Waiting until this off-season would be career suicide, IMO.

And this is why I never would have touched this kid, if I were DM. I don't have much respect for a player who would shit can 1 year of ball for 500K or so.

[DeezNutz]

Identify your chump, Royals fans:

.198/.300/.313

[Dartgod]

Identify your chump, Royals fans:

.198/.300/.313
Well, we know it's not TPJ.

[Demonpenz]

Identify your chump, Royals fans:

.198/.300/.313

moustakas?

[DeezNutz]

Well, we know it's not TPJ.

Very true. All numbers way too high.

Our astute GM recently, well...fairly recently, anyway, said the chump in question WAS NOT going to be traded.

[DeezNutz]

moustakas?

Nope. If I had listed 105 Ks and 22 BBs, Mossytaco might have been plausible.

[Mecca]

Nope. If I had listed 105 Ks and 22 BBs, Mossytaco might have been plausible.

The Royals are big fans of guys who don't know how to take walks.

[DeezNutz]

The Royals are big fans of guys who don't know how to take walks.

OBP is very important to this organization. /Dayton--Carl Peterson is a genious by comparison--Moore/

[Mecca]

I've still yet to figure out what the Royals approach even is.

[DeezNutz]

I've still yet to figure out what the Royals approach even is.

First, it's a "process," not an "approach." Big difference.

Second, it's quite clear. HS, high upside guys. Please don't look at all the college arms in this year's draft, though. Stay away from the curtain. Nothing to see here.

Oh, and fuck statistical analysis. That's for teh nerds. I don't even understand it.

[OmahaChief]

Identify your chump, Royals fans:

.198/.300/.313

Hosmer

[DeezNutz]

Hosmer

Nope.

This chump in question was telling George Brett to fuck himself before it was fashionable to do so.

[Mecca]

It's obviously Alex Gordon because dude blows.

[DeezNutz]

It's obviously Alex Gordon because dude blows.

Winner.

[Demonpenz]

that obp is pretty impressive considering what he is hitting

[DeezNutz]

that obp is pretty impressive considering what he is hitting

That's true.

But it's time for him to pull the dick out and produce. I don't want to hear anymore about "development" as it pertains to Alex Gordon and/or Luke Hochevar.

[Reaper16]

Alex's OBP was like thirty points higher one start ago. His numbers are going to fluctuate pretty wildly still until he gets more at-bats.

[Demonpenz]

ummm color me really homeristic but the fact they got him with both hands on the bat is going to keep that shoulder in and although that was a cheapie homerun in the homerdome. That was what we need. The dude can hit the ball 450 feet when he gets ahold of it, but all we need is 390

[DeezNutz]

ummm color me really homeristic but the fact they got him with both hands on the bat is going to keep that shoulder in and although that was a cheapie homerun in the homerdome. That was what we need. The dude can hit the ball 450 feet when he gets ahold of it, but all we need is 390

If he can't be coached now, after several seasons of varying fail, he simply will not listen to anyone.

[Sure-Oz]

ummm color me really homeristic but the fact they got him with both hands on the bat is going to keep that shoulder in and although that was a cheapie homerun in the homerdome. That was what we need. The dude can hit the ball 450 feet when he gets ahold of it, but all we need is 390

The 2 hands thing has really been noticable....he pulled a damon every damn AB before...

[petegz28]

Well, Bannister has manged to blow the lead twice tonight

[Sure-Oz]

Well, Bannister has manged to blow the lead twice tonight

Thank you mark teahen, that was superior royal D

[petegz28]

Thank you mark teahen, that was superior royal D

It really wouldn't have mattered

[petegz28]

And Banny gives up another 2-run jack

[DeezNutz]

And Banny gives up another 2-run jack

That's on Trey. It was crystal clear that Bannister was tiring, yet Hillman kept him in a position to fail.

[petegz28]

That's on Trey. It was crystal clear that Bannister was tiring, yet Hillman kept him in a position to fail.

I agree.....he should have been pulled at 90 with the way he has been pitching

[Sure-Oz]

Jacobs with a 3 run bomb to tie it in the 8th

[petegz28]

Jacobs ties the game with a 3-run bomb to RF

[DeezNutz]

Patience, guys.

We'll still lose this thing.

Go Nats!

[Sure-Oz]

Patience, guys.

We'll still lose this thing.

Go Nats!

LMAO we have to, the bryce harper sweepstakes baby!

Jacobs has insane power and strike out ability

[DeezNutz]

LMAO we have to, the bryce harper sweepstakes baby!

Jacobs has insane power and strike out ability

I'm serious. I have gone into full on, all out, hope-to-lose mode because of the insane dream of being in a position to draft someone whom the scouts believe is a lock to be a superstar position player, a Griffey, A-Rod type.

We're not talking about a Gordon-level prospect. All Royals fans should embrace this play-to-lose philosophy. And if we could rid ourselves of Dayton and Trey along the way, even better.

[Mizzou_8541]

I'm serious. I have gone into full on, all out, hope-to-lose mode because of the insane dream of being in a position to draft someone whom the scouts believe is a lock to be a superstar position player, a Griffey, A-Rod type.

We're not talking about a Gordon-level prospect. All Royals fans should embrace this play-to-lose philosophy. And if we could rid ourselves of Dayton and Trey along the way, even better.

Well, you got your wish...about the former, anyway.

[DeezNutz]

Well, you got your wish...about the former, anyway.

We just drafted Harper, or were Moore and Hillman fired?????

[petegz28]

Patience, guys.

We'll still lose this thing.

Go Nats!


I give you, Josh Anderson...for the loss

[Mizzou_8541]

We just drafted Harper and Moore and Hillman have been fired?????

****s, yes111

:LOL:

Almost as good. Bale just gave up the lead.

[DeezNutz]

:LOL:

Almost as good. Bale just gave up the lead.

Keep rolling, Nats. Keep fucking rolling.

And, Dayton, if we're fortunate enough to draft #1 overall and Harper is on the board and you take a pitcher, especially one who is so pussy that he'd rather sit out a year than play ball, I will flip the motherfuck out you stupid motherfucking waste of fucking space.

[Mizzou_8541]

Keep rolling, Nats. Keep ****ing rolling.

And, Dayton, if we're fortunate enough to draft #1 overall and Harper is on the board and you take a pitcher, especially one who is so pussy that he'd rather sit out a year than play ball, I will flip the mother**** out you stupid mother****ing waste of ****ing space.

I'm kind of scared of you now after that post.

[DeezNutz]

Royals Corner:

Strasburg reportedly signed. MLB deal worth $15.67 million over 4 years.

[DeezNutz]

Have a expressed my pleasure in the Royals, for the second time in four years, selecting a gutless pussy who would rather sit out a year than take a few hundred thousand less and play MLB?

Perfect mental makeup. Exactly what I look for in a top-of-the-rotation guy.

I'm honestly not sure if we could have hired a more incompetent GM.

[WoodDraw]

Have a expressed my pleasure in the Royals, for the second time in four years, selecting a gutless pussy who would rather sit out a year than take a few hundred thousand less and play MLB?

Perfect mental makeup. Exactly what I look for in a top-of-the-rotation guy.

I'm honestly not sure if we could have hired a more incompetent GM.

I love people that call players gutless pussies on internet message boards.

The guy made a choice - a choice a lot of baseball people respected. He'll likely end up taking less money for it, but the negotiations last year were messed up across the board.

How about an organization that would rather lose a top draft pick than pay a top prospect a few hundred thousand more to sign?

These situations go both ways, and when you aren't sitting at the table actually knowing what's going on, it's best to STFU.

[DeezNutz]

I love people that call players gutless pussies on internet message boards.

The guy made a choice - a choice a lot of baseball people respected. He'll likely end up taking less money for it, but the negotiations last year were messed up across the board.

How about an organization that would rather lose a top draft pick than pay a top prospect a few hundred thousand more to sign?

These situations go both ways, and when you aren't sitting at the table actually knowing what's going on, it's best to STFU.

LMAO.

Then I guess we can never discuss anything on this forum b/c there isn't a single sports-related topic that enables us to know all the sides of the story.

Yes, Crow is gutless. It's his career, and by not "sacrificing" a bit of money in the short term, he cost himself a tremendous amount of earning potential throughout the course of his career.

Terrible, terrible decision.

Now, fast forward to this year: this should have been the type of negotiation that should have already been completed. If baseball is this kid's top priority, he should realize the importance of getting his career going. And now he'll continue to play the waiting game and posture like he's going to re-enter the draft when everyone knows that's complete bullshit.

For what? Another few hundred thousand, and the beat goes on.

[WoodDraw]

LMAO.

Then I guess we can never discuss anything on this forum b/c there isn't a single sports-related topic that enables us to know all the sides of the story.

Yes, Crow is gutless. It's his career, and by not "sacrificing" a bit of money in the short term, he cost himself a tremendous amount of earning potential throughout the course of his career.

Terrible, terrible decision.

Now, fast forward to this year: this should have been the type of negotiation that should have already been completed. If baseball is this kid's top priority, he should realize the importance of getting his career going. And now he'll continue to play the waiting game and posture like he's going to re-enter the draft when everyone knows that's complete bullshit.

For what? Another few hundred thousand, and the beat goes on.

You can discuss whatever you want. I prefer not to call other people gutless pussies, especially when I don't know everything. But that's me.

Crow has proven everything he needs to by becoming one of the top draft prospects in the world. The Nationals and the Royals aren't a non-for-profit or a local charity. They're businesses, and profitable ones at that.

So I don't see why Crow should be forced to take a below market bonus simply to prove to you, the Royals, or whoever that he cares about what he does.

The number 11 pick signed for $3.9 million, and the number 13 pick signed for $2.75 million (both today, on their deadlines, btw). Using those two numbers as brackets, I see nothing unreasonable in demands or anything outside normal negotiating happenings.

[DeezNutz]

You can discuss whatever you want. I prefer not to call other people gutless pussies, especially when I don't know everything. But that's me.

Crow has proven everything he needs to by becoming one of the top draft prospects in the world. The Nationals and the Royals aren't a non-for-profit or a local charity. They're businesses, and profitable ones at that.

So I don't see why Crow should be forced to take a below market bonus simply to prove to you, the Royals, or whoever that he cares about what he does.

The number 11 pick signed for $3.9 million, and the number 13 pick signed for $2.75 million (both today, on their deadlines, btw). Using those two numbers as brackets, I see nothing unreasonable in demands or anything outside normal negotiating happenings.

The Royals have offered $3M.

Let's say Crow wants them to split the difference. Fine. But is it really worth continuing to wait, and further delaying one's progress to FA, when the "real" money is made with the second contract, over 350K?

Obviously not. When I say he's a "gutless pussy," this is crude shorthand for: I see a dumbass kid who is being led by the nose by agents who don't have his best interest at heart and only want to suck the system for every penny possible.

They've already negatively affected the kid's bottom line, but Crow has to grow a pair and have a part in the process. According to media reports, he's completely hands off in the process. Big mistake. I'm not saying he should be at the negotiating table, but he needs to make sure he's directing the people who are supposed to be working for him. For. Him. Not giving him orders.

Someone needs to tell this kid to wake up. No one's abusing him financially. He's received fair offers from both the Nats and Royals, all well over slot. Now it's time to decide what's most important.

If I'm a GM, it would have to be a once-in-a-generation talent for me to select a player who willingly sat out a season.

[Sure-Oz]

He won't get this money next year, try sitting out for 2 years crowe you dumbfuck

[Buck]

So did Crow sign or not?

[Reaper16]

So did Crow sign or not?
The deadline doesn't count for Crow. He didn't sign tonight, but that doesn't mean that he can't or won't later.

[doomy3]

Did we get Myers and Dwyer signed?

[DeezNutz]

Did we get Myers and Dwyer signed?

Yes.

The latter received the largest contract in the history of the 4th round. 1.45M, I believe.