****Official NFL 2012 Draft Thread****

[DaKCMan AP]

McNutt makes sense for a team like Indy or Redskins.

I agree. He makes sense for Miami too.

[DTLB58]

Looks to me like McCluster is entrenched at RB behind Charles.

Yep. One plays RB, the other WR. We just added more speed. I don't know why this picks means they need to get rid of Dex.

[malachi47000]

Do you think taking Vontaze Burfict in the 5th would be a good choice? Yes he has off the field problems and failed drug test (like Houston) however as a 5th round pick, I think it is worth the gamble. I doubt he makes it to the 7th round and would be surprised if he makes it to the 6th honestly. He has to much potential to pass up and contracts can be written to protect the chiefs organization if he pulls the same off field shit as he did in college. We took a gamble with Houston and it paid off, might be the same with Burfict and if the gamble works, talk about an amazing LB core!

[DaKCMan AP]

With their first 4 picks, the Steelers have taken 3 players I had going to us, just not in the same order. I had us taking DeCastro, then Ta'amu, then Spence. There's a reason why the Steelers contend for championships almost every year while we haven't won a playoff game in almost 20 years. . .

Ben Roethlisberger?

[the Talking Can]

With their first 4 picks, the Steelers have taken 3 players I had going to us, just not in the same order. I had us taking DeCastro, then Ta'amu, then Spence. There's a reason why the Steelers contend for championships almost every year while we haven't won a playoff game in almost 20 years. . .

yeah, QB

[DaKCMan AP]

Do you think taking Vontaze Burfict in the 5th would be a good choice? Yes he has off the field problems and failed drug test (like Houston) however as a 5th round pick, I think it is worth the gamble. I doubt he makes it to the 7th round and would be surprised if he makes it to the 6th honestly. He has to much potential to pass up and contracts can be written to protect the chiefs organization if he pulls the same off field shit as he did in college. We took a gamble with Houston and it paid off, might be the same with Burfict and if the gamble works, talk about an amazing LB core!

No.

[TimeForWasp]

Since 2007, Devon Wylie has touched the ball only 58 times. It resulted in almost 1,000 yards, 7 td's, and a lot of excitement. Wylie missed the 2010 season due to a surgically repaired navicular fracture in his left foot. In 2011, he will return to the field potentially faster than the 4.25 forty that he ran in 2009


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I like him.

[DaKCMan AP]

Nice pick by Cleveland in James-Michael Johnson. He would have fit here.

[the Talking Can]

Do you think taking Vontaze Burfict in the 5th would be a good choice? Yes he has off the field problems and failed drug test (like Houston) however as a 5th round pick, I think it is worth the gamble. I doubt he makes it to the 7th round and would be surprised if he makes it to the 6th honestly. He has to much potential to pass up and contracts can be written to protect the chiefs organization if he pulls the same off field shit as he did in college. We took a gamble with Houston and it paid off, might be the same with Burfict and if the gamble works, talk about an amazing LB core!

he's terrible and will be lucky to be drafted

i'd use a 7th on him

[Hammock Parties]

Yep. One plays RB, the other WR. We just added more speed. I don't know why this picks means they need to get rid of Dex.

Because he is a shitty RB who now has no other value to the team.

[Frosty]

Let me clarify.

A 5' nothing WR is not a legitimate deep threat with Matt Cassel as his QB.

I woke up in a good mood today because it occurred to me that this draft has RAC's fingerprints all over it, which leads me to believe that Pioli might be deferring to him more. Romeo had no problem yanking Charlie Frye after he sucked in the first game and putting DA in in Cleveland. It gives me hope that the best QB on the roster might actually play most of the season (I realize that better than bad doesn't equal good).

I may be totally off base here but I'm rolling with until proven otherwise. :D

[ISUJeff]

No.

Agree, No.

Burfict's issues go much deeper than just some smoking.

[DaKCMan AP]

Agree, No.

Burfict's issues go much deeper than just some smoking.

His issues are mostly football (on-field & practice) related. Complete opposite to players who have off-field issues.

[DTLB58]

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Wylie-sits-down-with-Bucky-Brooks-at-the-Combine/792bd0b7-8f9e-470f-bbe4-e6ef0775e338

Sit down interview with Wylie @ the combine.

[Dylan]

Ben Roethlisberger?

that's a good point.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Ben Roethlisberger?

Yes. Steeler draft pick Ben Roethlisberger helps too.

[ISUJeff]

His issues are mostly football (on-field & practice) related. Complete opposite to players who have off-field issues.

His lack of effort and blaming coaches for his drop in production would scare me, and hopefully KC coaches

[Dylan]

great respect for B.Dawk -

[the Talking Can]

damn

boykin to eagles

[Frosty]

I've liked the Eagles' draft

[DaKCMan AP]

Saints take Nick Toon. I like this pick. Now they have another big guy to pair with Colston and replacing Meachem to pair with Henderson and Sproles.

[DaKCMan AP]

FUCK FUCK YOU ANDY REID

[DaKCMan AP]

I like the Eagles draft a lot.

[Dylan]

I've liked the Eagles' draft

so do I - but then again, everything looks good on paper

[DaKCMan AP]

so do I - but then again, everything looks good on paper

Not everything. Look at Seattle. ;)

[RUSH]

I love the eagles draft. Boykin should play right away at nickel CB.

[chiefzilla1501]

I woke up in a good mood today because it occurred to me that this draft has RAC's fingerprints all over it, which leads me to believe that Pioli might be deferring to him more. Romeo had no problem yanking Charlie Frye after he sucked in the first game and putting DA in in Cleveland. It gives me hope that the best QB on the roster might actually play most of the season (I realize that better than bad doesn't equal good).

I may be totally off base here but I'm rolling with until proven otherwise. :D

I think we are seeing that Pioli is letting Romeo have some say in his team, whereas he was an arrogant prick with Haley. There are definitely hints that the Chiefs are placing a greater priority on the QB position and I hope that's true. Then again, they talked about going after Peyton, there were talks about going after Stanton, and they hinted at looking heavily into Cousins. They didn't do any of those things, so who the fuck knows.

It's a sad reality that barring some kind of miracle, Cassel is probably going to start every game this season. I can only hope for a wild card that somebody in KC is super-impressed with Stanzi or that Daboll's history with Brady Quinn puts him at starter. And even those options don't make me want to do cartwheels.

[Dylan]

Not everything. Look at Seattle. ;)

:D

[Reaper16]

Buffalo taking Brooks was a shrewd pick.

[DTLB58]

Because he is a shitty RB who now has no other value to the team.

He is good enough for 3rd string behind Charles and Hillis (as long as they don't draft someone else today). He gives a different dimension, like Wylie at WR compared to what we already have there.

I wouldn't just cut him, he has value.

[Dylan]

If the Giants don't select offensive linemen - I'll scream

I can't bear to watch another Giants / 49ers game this season - shoot me

[Frosty]

I think we are seeing that Pioli is letting Romeo have some say in his team, whereas he was an arrogant prick with Haley.

I get the impression that Pioli looks up to Crennel. Crennel was a head coach before and has a bunch of rings as a coordinator. Pioli probably felt that he had to reign in Haley and protect Haley from himself where he doesn't have to do that with Romeo.

[rico]

I'd love it if the Chiefs picked up Antonio Allen here. I think eventually, they will end up with either Cyrus Gray or Shaun Prater in one of the upcoming rounds..

[Dylan]

oh please, Mike Pope can make a good TE out of any UDFA -- He's been doing that since Bavaro

Why a TE?

The Giants need to protect Eli

[DaKCMan AP]

If the Giants don't select offensive linemen - I'll scream

I can't bear to watch another Giants / 49ers game this season - shoot me

They should look at Zebrie Sanders.

[chiefs1111]

wow there goes another FB

[Longrun Chief]

The Raiders are on the clock. Another glimpse into Reggie McKenzie's draft strategy.

[DTLB58]

I get the impression that Pioli looks up to Crennel. Crennel was a head coach before and has a bunch of rings as a coordinator. Pioli probably felt that he had to reign in Haley and protect Haley from himself where he doesn't have to do that with Romeo.

Romeo did say before the draft he wanted fast WR's.

[DaKCMan AP]

I'd love it if the Chiefs picked up Antonio Allen here. I think eventually, they will end up with either Cyrus Gray or Shaun Prater in one of the upcoming rounds..

I'm fine with Allen or Iloka.

[DTLB58]

wow there goes another FB

Good, take them all, we don't need to blow another pick on one again this year!

[rico]

I'm fine with Allen or Iloka.

God, I keep forgetting that Iloka is still on the board. I wouldn't mind having him either.

[Dylan]

They should look at Zebrie Sanders.

offensive linemen is not in their head. same shit, different toilet

I'm sure they will select a defensive player next.

[chop]

He doesn't add any dimension we don't already have, IMO. Breaston does better what Wright would do.

If he is a Welker type of WR, he will be doing a lot of shorter routes in hopes he breaks one. Quoted wrong comment.

[Frosty]

NFLN ignoring the draft to cover the RG3 welcoming party in Washington. :spock:

[Frosty]

Dylan gets her wish

[Dylan]

NFLN ignoring the draft to cover the RG3 welcoming party in Washington. :spock:

On the Giants selection, no less! F word

[DaKCMan AP]

Giants take your OL. Mosley from Auburn.

[the Talking Can]

giants take mosley

good pick

[Dylan]

OMG an offensive linemen?

Watch, they'll sit him for two years - and use all their broke dicks

thanks, guys

[DTLB58]

Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

[milkman]

I turned on to watch the draft, but what I get now is analysis of every east coast team drafts.

So excited.

[DaKCMan AP]

Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

Thanks. As I said at the time of the pick:

Wow. Didn't see the Fins taking Martin.

I don't really understand that pick unless they move him to OG. He's not RT.

So this at least rationalizes the selection.

[The Franchise]

I could see the Vikings or Cowboys taking Iloka.

[milkman]

Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

[Reaper16]

This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

*sound of AustinChief weeping*

[chop]

Lilja recently stated that Cassel is a good QB and that the Chiefs needed to get better players around him. Maybe he speaks for more people in the organization and that is why the Chiefs are drafting the way they are. Unfortunately for him, he is one of the guys getting replaced.

[Bewbies]

This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

[DaKCMan AP]

I could see the Vikings or Cowboys taking Iloka.

Vikes already took Harrison Smith.

[ChiefsCountry]

I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

Since you were around here in 2008?

[milkman]

I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

That is exactly what I, and many others, said, yes.

[DaKCMan AP]

Vikes loading up on Arky WRs!

[chiefs1111]

Vikes take another wr from Arkansas

[chop]

That Droid Razr commercial is really getting on my nerves.

[the Talking Can]

let's get to this 5th round pick so i can get out of here

[DaKCMan AP]

Dear ESPN,

I'd really like to see that manly woman named Suzy interview the Eagles fat walrus coach. Can you please arrange that?

Thanx,
DaKCMan AP

[Frosty]

That is exactly what I, and many others, said, yes.

Can you imagine the shakeup that would have happened had the Mamee Doffins taken Ryan instead? Atlanta probably would have taken Dorsey. I wonder who the Chiefs would have gotten? Ellis? Long? Gholston?

[chop]

let's get to this 5th round pick so i can get out of here

What player is it going to take to get you you leave happy?

[Frosty]

That Droid Razr commercial is really getting on my nerves.

Thank God for the mute button.

[Reaper16]

Colts made one Hell of a pick there in Josh Chapman. The Colts get their anchor NT for their new 3-4 in the first offseason of transition to that alignment. It took the Chiefs three seasons.

[DaKCMan AP]

Indy could use a RB.

[DaKCMan AP]

Chapman is a nice pick for them.

[Bewbies]

Since you were around here in 2008?

I've said before I have been here long before I appeared as Bewbies.

[Bewbies]

Indy takes the NT I wanted with our 3 or 4. They got him in the 5th. Sadface.

[the Talking Can]

colts take chapman....my sweetheart

[Frosty]

Andy Reid on one network and RG3 press conference on the other.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz

[chiefs1111]

Malik Jackson to Denver

[the Talking Can]

What player is it going to take to get you you leave happy?

doesn't really matter at this point, this draft is a b movie

but a safety or running back would be my choice

[DaKCMan AP]

Lions trade up.

[the Talking Can]

i'll bet a dollar chapman has a longer career than poe

[Frosty]

I wanted Polk but the thing about his knee scares me.

[Dylan]

Reid says, "It all starts with me….." same excuse for 13 years

Can the Super Bowl end in a tie? / Eagles

Three runs - success. Two passes - fail / Eagles

[Reaper16]

i'll bet a dollar chapman has a longer career than poe

Chapman is way, way better at football.

[Coogs]

Chapman is way, way better at football.

Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

[the Talking Can]

Chapman is way, way better at football.

yup, and plays with more heart too

[the Talking Can]

Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

[Titty Meat]

What's everyone think of Malik Jackson? Guy looks like an athletic beast.

[Frosty]

A lot of talent went in the fourth. A couple of trades down might have netted some really good players.

[Titty Meat]

poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

He only did bad cuz he played 60 downs a game against spread offenses.

[DaKCMan AP]

What's everyone think of Malik Jackson? Guy looks like an athletic beast.

He's a typical 5th round pick. He'll either be a run-stop DE or maybe play inside. A rotational guy. He makes more sense at DE in a 3-4, though, so kind of strange for Denver. He'll need to add weight to play DT and he's not a speed rusher off the edge.

[the Talking Can]

He only did bad cuz he played 60 downs a game against spread offenses.

chapman was a stud in the SEC with a torn ACL

poe was a nobody in the beer league

[The Franchise]

The Minnesota Fighting Irish

[Dante84]

Do we go Chris Polk here?

Is there a safety or ILB prospect better than that?

[Coogs]

poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

I was on the Chapman bandwagon. One of the very first ones here at the Planet. But bottome line is Poe went at #11... Chapman in the 5th. 32 teams in the NFL passed on Chapman 4+ times.

[the Talking Can]

LMAO

i'm getting angry all over again...

[Reaper16]

Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

Go watch Alabama games from last year. Chapman dominated at the nose... and he did it while playing with a torn ACL for nearly the entire season. He's a beast.

[Coogs]

Go watch Alabama games from last year. Chapman dominated at the nose... and he did it while playing with a torn ACL for nearly the entire season. He's a beast.

I was one of the first on his bandwagon. You are not telling me anything I didn't know.

[DaKCMan AP]

Do we go Chris Polk here?


Hope not.

[the Talking Can]

I was on the Chapman bandwagon. One of the very first ones here at the Planet. But bottome line is Poe went at #11... Chapman in the 5th. 32 teams in the NFL passed on Chapman 4+ times.

which has nothing to do with poe being a better football player....

one team drafted him based solely on his physical dimensions

no one can make the argument poe is a better player...that was settled by their performance in college

poe might have a better nfl career...but that has nothing to do with who is a better player right now

[the Talking Can]

5 picks and i am free of this abortion

[blazzin311]

which has nothing to do with poe being a better football player....

one team drafted him based solely on his physical dimensions

no one can make the argument poe is a better player...that was settled by their performance in college

poe might have a better nfl career...but that has nothing to do with who is a better player right now

This pretty much sums it up as far as I'm concerned. :thumb:

[jd1020]

Do we go Chris Polk here?

Is there a safety or ILB prospect better than that?

Alfonzo Dennard or Iloka, please.

[bandwagonjumper]

Honestly, the Vikings have really a hard on for Notre Dame. The fifth Notre Dame player. I might have to jump on the Viking bandwagon.

[Frosty]

All Giants, all of the time

[TimeForWasp]

I like all of our picks so far. So there

[DaKCMan AP]

All Giants, all of the time

All NFC East all the time. They've interviewed Andy Reid, covered RGIII's arrival in Wash, and now have Reese on. You know they're going to talk Cowboys sooner or later.

[Coogs]

I like all of our picks so far. So there

Me too! All four of them.

[tk13]

The Giants have people being interviewed on both ESPN and NFLN at the moment. You can't escape.

[blazzin311]

For KCs next pick I think I'd prefer Jonathan Massaquoi or perhaps George Iloka. Either one could fill a need the way I see it.

[keg in kc]

which has nothing to do with poe being a better football player....

one team drafted him based solely on his physical dimensions

no one can make the argument poe is a better player...that was settled by their performance in college

poe might have a better nfl career...but that has nothing to do with who is a better player right nowThat raises the question of what you draft for, now or for the career. I'd say both, leaning (maybe heavily) towards career.

The faster Poe develops, the better, though.

[Dylan]

on NFLN: Jerry Reese gives us a lot of insight - not!

on the Jayron Hosley selection: Good thing there are no drugs, hookers, nightclubs, etc in this city to temp him.

[blazzin311]

Wouldn't mind Chris Polk or Cyrus Gray either I suppose.

[DaKCMan AP]

Wouldn't mind Chris Polk or Cyrus Gray either I suppose.

No to both.

[DaKCMan AP]

Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
Green Bay and New England ranked 32nd and 31st in NFL in D last season. So far, Packers and Pats have drafted nine players - all on defense.

[Molitoth]

Alphonso Dennard or Antonio allen

[DaKCMan AP]

Cool, the NFL is now 3 picks behind.

[cabletech94]

so, what qb are we gonna take now?

[blazzin311]

No to both.

My preferred first choices for round 5 are Massaquoi or Iloka. I just wouldn't be upset with either Polk or Gray is what I'm saying.

[Frosty]

Darn - I would have liked Norman

[Direckshun]

Cool, the NFL is now 3 picks behind.

:facepalm:

[TimeForWasp]

Ha Ha Mayock fucking with Eison about him getting manicured. LOL

[DaKCMan AP]

George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

[The Franchise]

Nice pick by the Bills. All new tackles for them.

[cabletech94]

George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

NONE OF THESE ARE QUARTERBACKS!!!!!!!

[blazzin311]

so, what qb are we gonna take now?

About the only QBs I'd look at the rest of the draft might be Lindley, Harnish or Moore.

[the Talking Can]

come on miami

[The Franchise]

Come on Iloka.

[DaKCMan AP]

Zebrie Sanders is a nice pick for Buffalo.

[rico]

Please be Allen or Iloka (considering Miami doesn't take them).

[tk13]

Somebody trades in front of us again.

[Strongside]

haha! Someone trades in front of us again!

[Urc Burry]

We fucking got jumped again

[Frosty]

Of course - KC getting sniped again :facepalm:

[cabletech94]

titans jump in front of us.

[Titty Meat]

George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

Funny these are the guys you were saying in the 3rd round.

[milkman]

Somebody jumped us again.

[Direckshun]

George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

Ronnell Lewis has bee drafted.

[DaKCMan AP]

Chiefs get jumped for 3rd time in the draft.

[TimeForWasp]

Eison said " I'm holding a phone on television, I can't look like a caveman" Mayock says , so you want to look like a woman? LOL

[the Talking Can]

WE GOT JUMPED AGAIN

WTF?????????

[Dante84]

Got jumped again!

[Coogs]

so, what qb are we gonna take now?

Free Agent from Washburn. Dane Simoneau

[Molitoth]

Jumped by the titans eh

[Bewbies]

Pioli must have sent a memo out of our picks for each round.

[Frosty]

Bet Tenn picks a S

[DTLB58]

Is that 3 times now someone has traded right in front of us?

[Direckshun]

Somebody jumped us again.

Are you shitting me?

I'm away from a TV. Who jumped us?

Good Christ.

[DaKCMan AP]

Funny these are the guys you were saying in the 3rd round.

And?

[jd1020]

Me thinks Crennel has a big mouth he needs to fucking shut.

[cabletech94]

Bet Tenn picks a S

probably THIS

[the Talking Can]

seriously...people obviously know our board...this is nuts

[rico]

JUMPED! UGH!!!

[Direckshun]

Oh Jesus.

We have a leaky ship this year. So crazy.

[The Franchise]

They'll take Iloka.....watch.

[blazzin311]

Ronnell Lewis has bee drafted.

Perhaps he meant Travis Lewis? :spock:

[Direckshun]

I love how people are like "so great that we're actually saying things to the media now."

Jumped three times in five rounds. You can't make this shit up.

It's Herm/Carl 2.0.

[Frosty]

Hmmm...

[rico]

They will pick Antonio Allen.

[Urc Burry]

Ok i'm not complaining

[JohnnyHammersticks]

If we don't pick up Iloka or Allen with this next pick then I don't know what in the hell Pioli could possibly be thinking.

[Strongside]

Hmmm...

[jd1020]

If we don't pick up Iloka or Allen with this next pick then I don't know what in the hell Pioli could possibly be thinking.

I'd take Alfonzo Dennard over both of them.

1st round grade in the 5th... At CB.

[cabletech94]

whew

[Frosty]

Was Thompson someone the Chiefs were looking at?

[DaKCMan AP]

Taylor Thompson. No big.

[the Talking Can]

titans take....a TE


whew....LMAO

maybe they saved us

[Strongside]

I swear since I can remember they base their commercial breaks for the drafts on where KC is picking.

[rico]

Taylor Thompson......mmmmmkay.....

[Papi]

I've seen Markelle Martin ranked higher than Iloka. Forgive my ignorance but why do people here seem to like Iloka more?

[Frosty]

And the NFLN goes to commercial

[Titty Meat]

I love how people are like "so great that we're actually saying things to the media now."

Jumped three times in five rounds. You can't make this shit up.

It's Herm/Carl 2.0.

What did they say that would tip other teams off? Some of our needs for depth are obvious ones.

[cabletech94]

here we go.

[The Franchise]

Can we draft someone I've heard of now?

[Molitoth]

Pick got in quick

[KCUnited]

And the NFLN goes to commercial

Flip over to ESPN for Polian's gold grill.

[Bewbies]

We wouldn't have taken that TE, we don't wait for TE's to fall to us.

[cabletech94]

commercial

[Urc Burry]

What did they say that would tip other teams off? Some of our needs for depth are obvious ones.

It's been going around for a while we loved Brandon Taylor.. Brought him in for a private workout. Then La Canfora says we love Michael Floyd and the Bowe rumors fly around and we get jumped in the second for the top receiver available

[Frosty]

Flip over to ESPN for Polian's gold grill.

I'm there but they are going to commercial too

[Papi]

Got a S

[tk13]

There's your safety.

[Dante84]

Safety!

[cabletech94]

safety!

[the Talking Can]

chiefs take a safety!

menzie from bama

[Tytanium]

Dequan Menzie S Bama

[MIAdragon]

Menzie, De'Quan

[rico]

WHAT?!?!?! OVER ALLEN AND ILOKA?! THIS IS MIND BOGGLING?!

[jd1020]

Well.. We got a S but who the fuck...

[Molitoth]

At least he came from a good school??????

[Bewbies]

Ok, learn me about Menzie...

[The Franchise]

ESPN has him listed as a CB.

[Direckshun]

I hate hate hate this pick.

I really do not like Menzie at all.

But I go waaay against the grain on that. He will be a fairly popular pick.

But I am not a fan.

[HemiEd]

Theres the safety

[DaKCMan AP]

I can live with that.

DeQuan Menzie, Alabama

Looks like they're moving him to safety.

[Hoover]

We probably watched a shit ton of tape on him since we looked at Barron

[MIAdragon]

STRENGTHS Menzie is a very instinctual corner who relies on his ability to anticipate the throw and break on the ball to disrupt passes. He is a strong player when working in tight space and can use his agility and foot quickness to stay on a receiver's hip. He is a strong player in zone and understands when to take chances and jump routes. He scans the entire field and helps when needed in these schemes. He never shies away from contact and is a productive tackler working from the outside-in.

WEAKNESSES Menzie is a solid all-around prospect who has fluid hips and athletic ability, which he relies on too heavily at times. He takes chances in man coverage that could hurt him at the next level.

[Molitoth]

Ok, learn me about Menzie...

Barron took the spotlight

[chiefs1111]

well there ya go a safety

[TimeForWasp]

There, a safety.

[Direckshun]

He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

[MIAdragon]

Menzie has some hitches in his athletic ability that will make for a tough transition to the NFL. He is consistently around the ball, however, and making splash plays for the decorated Crimson Tide defense. He is the type of player whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts in terms of the type of player he will be on Sundays. He is a playmaker and savvy cover man who has second-round value.

[the Talking Can]

reports list him as a CB

Positives: A versatile and flexible athlete with good foot quickness. Started 20 games the last two years, lining up inside and outside. Tough and scrappy with the forceful nature to be physical at all levels of the field. Has good bulk on his frame to be aggressive in run support. Strong hands to make plays on the ball, effective blitzer who shows well-coached technique and awareness. Negatives: Has below-average measureables for the position and lacks ideal length. Has only average long speed and lacks the natural change-of-direction skills and vertical ability to play blanket man coverage. Lacks natural explosion to make up for false steps. Struggles to break down in space and can be a liability against the run at the ...

[Dylan]

Can't believe the Saints put out a bounty on Cam -- How sad!

The Giants signed Saints DT Shaun Rogers for depth two days ago.

I'm hoping that Rogers wasn't involved in all that bounty mess.

[chiefs1111]

Tank Carder to Bills

[Quesadilla Joe]

#Chiefs grab my top Slot CB, DeQuan Menzie. Love his physical play on the inside. Good short-area foot quickness. Avg. speed.

https://twitter.com/#!/nfldraftscout/status/196305685330403328

[Titty Meat]

Meh

[Strongside]

If his biggest weakness is that he takes chances in man coverage...I like the pick.

[Frosty]

STRENGTHS Menzie is a very instinctual corner who relies on his ability to anticipate the throw and break on the ball to disrupt passes. He is a strong player when working in tight space and can use his agility and foot quickness to stay on a receiver's hip. He is a strong player in zone and understands when to take chances and jump routes. He scans the entire field and helps when needed in these schemes. He never shies away from contact and is a productive tackler working from the outside-in.

WEAKNESSES Menzie is a solid all-around prospect who has fluid hips and athletic ability, which he relies on too heavily at times. He takes chances in man coverage that could hurt him at the next level.

Color me intrigued

[Reaper16]

I guess the Chiefs are converting Menzie to saftey? Huh.

[Hammock Parties]

Sabby, GTFO

[DaKCMan AP]

He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

He improved his 40 time to the 4.5's at pro day.

He played CB at Bama but will play safety here. Actually a really good fit, IMO, since we utilize 3 safeties and he can play both man & zone and has good cover skills.

[ChiefsCountry]

Damn good pick by the Chiefs. Menzie played corner but projects as a safety in the NFL. We play 3 safeties alot and one is normally a coverage guy. Here you go.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

My God, I miss one season and the whole thing goes tits-up. Shame on me.

-ROR :D

[Lightrise]

Kellen Moore is sitting around with nothing to do....

I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.

[milkman]

He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

As a safety, he sounds like he could be a poor man's Brandon Taylor.

[the Talking Can]

Menzie has some hitches in his athletic ability that will make for a tough transition to the NFL. He is consistently around the ball, however, and making splash plays for the decorated Crimson Tide defense. He is the type of player whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts in terms of the type of player he will be on Sundays. He is a playmaker and savvy cover man who has second-round value.

sounds a lot like lewis

[Frosty]

McGraw, GTFO

FYP

:D

[Rams Fan]

My God, I miss one season and the whole thing goes tits-up. Shame on me.

-ROR :D

Holy shit.

IT'S ROR!

SANCHIZE 2012

[Bewbies]

I like taking defensive players from Bama. He will be very well coached coming in.

[Frosty]

Chiefs passed on a chance to get another Greenwood on the team (Lions' pick)

[DaKCMan AP]

He improved his 40 time to the 4.5's at pro day.

He played CB at Bama but will play safety here. Actually a really good fit, IMO, since we utilize 3 safeties and he can play both man & zone and has good cover skills.

Damn good pick by the Chiefs. Menzie played corner but projects as a safety in the NFL. We play 3 safeties alot and one is normally a coverage guy. Here you go.

:thumb:

I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.


TrolLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

[Direckshun]

QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Dexter McCluster
Shaun Draughn

FB
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston
Jonathan Baldwin
Devon Wylie
Terrance Copper
Jeremy Horne
Zeke Markshausen
Jamar Newsome

TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri
Kevin O'Connell

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

OG
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja
Jeff Allen

C
Rodney Hudson
Darryl Harris
Rob Bruggeman

NT
Dontari Poe
Amon Gordon
Jerrell Powe
Anthony Toribio

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Allen Bailey
Brandon Bair
Luke Patterson

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker
Gabe Miller

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood
Caleb Campbell

CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Travis Daniels
Jalil Brown
Jacques Reeves

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
DaQuan Menzie
Kyle McCarthy
Donald Washington
Mikail Baker

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

[David.]

per walterfootball

A- Grade
DeQuan Menzie can play both cornerback and safety. Coincidentally, the Chiefs needed depth in both areas, especially the latter, since Romeo Crennel loves having three safeties on the field. Menzie was ranked No. 80 on Mike Mayock's big board, so he provides really good value in Round 5.

[the Talking Can]

well, we addressed needs down the line in this draft...


nothing sexy, don't know what to think about most picks...roll the dice

pray for poe

i'm out

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Menzie #80 on Mayock's big board. Will be able to backup CB and S and play ST. Good value in the 5th round.

[DTLB58]

Notes:

Was a prep standout in Georgia before attending Copiah-Lincoln Community College (Miss.) for two years, where he recorded 40 tackles and six interceptions in 2008 and 51 tackles and one interception in ’09 as a two-year starter. At Alabama, suffered a torn Achilles in April ’10 but returned to start the season opener against San Jose State. Played in 12 games (six starts), in ’10, recording 33 tackles, four pass breakups and zero interceptions with five tackles for loss and two sacks. Made two starts at RCB spot and four as a nickel back. Started all 13 games for the national champions in ’11 and totaled 41-11-1 with four tackles for loss, 1 1⁄2 sacks. Returned his lone interception 25 yards for a TD against Arkansas. Suffered a left shoulder injury at the Senior Bowl and did not run at the Combine because of a strained right hamstring.
Positives:

Good size. Reads and reacts quickly. Very physical — willing tackler who tries to square and wrap up ballcarriers. Aware in zone — plays with his eyes and passes off receivers. Good ball reactions. Is versatile and has experience playing the slot. Is well-respected and possesses terrific character. Dependable producer.
Negatives:

Has short arms and small hands. Marginal speed and twitch for the cornerback position. Limited in man coverage — loses ground at the break point and struggles to shadow more athletic receivers. Has a 33-inch vertical jump.
Summary:

Tough, competitive college cornerback who projects better to safety, where his physicality plays better. Might not have the juice to start, but could be a solid backup for a zone team and become a fourth safety and special-teams producer. Has make-it qualities and will find a way to contribute. Scouts have compared him to a poor man’s version of Houston Texans starting SS Glover Quin.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Holy shit.

IT'S ROR!

SANCHIZE 2012

WE CAN DOOOO IT!

Seriously, the whole NFL has gone fucking loopy in my absense.

[the Talking Can]

I like taking defensive players from Bama. He will be very well coached coming in.

i agree, and familiar with our schemes

[Pasta Little Brioni]

FYP

:D

McGraw > Soggy Pistachio

[Rams Fan]

WE CAN DOOOO IT!

Seriously, the whole NFL has gone ****ing loopy in my absense.

Where the fuck did you go?

[Frosty]

Menzie highlights on ESPN looked good

[BigMeatballDave]

I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.

Weeden @ 11? LMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Where the **** did you go?

Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

[tk13]

That guy the Titans jumped over us to take is a DE who sounds like he might play TE in the NFL.

[BigMeatballDave]

Where the fuck did you go?

Riding Mecca's coattails... :)

[ChiefsCountry]

Finally Pioli goes SEC on a pick in this draft. We need about 2 more for him to be right on average.

[Rams Fan]

Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

That sucks.

Hopefully you won't disappear again.:thumb:

[Setsuna]

That is your best pick of the draft.

[Titty Meat]

Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

You were blowing goats for a living?

Good to have you back.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That sucks.

Hopefully you won't disappear again.:thumb:

Thank you Sir!

[Hammock Parties]

I just exchanged some emails with ROR. He didn't even know Haley got canned.

[Hammock Parties]

How was jail, ROR?

[Frosty]

I wonder if NFLN knows that there are other divisions besides the NFC East?

[jd1020]

So Audie Cole in the 6th?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You were blowing goats for a living?

Good to have you back.

Thanks, Brah. I appearantly missed a lot in my time away.

Crennel? Really? Really?

I mean, fuck me...really?

[Setsuna]

The NFC can go eat a dick.

[saphojunkie]

Anybody else thinking Vontaze in the 6th FTW?

I don't care how crazy he is, that is legit first round talent in the 6th round. I'm actively hoping for it.

Oh, and everyone better be getting ready to root for Quinn. Cuz the QB dream of this year is fucking dead.

[Hammock Parties]

Thanks, Brah. I appearantly missed a lot in my time away.

Crennel? Really? Really?

I mean, fuck me...really?

He's only 65 bro.

[Direckshun]

Burfict is a UDFA talent.

Pass.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

How was jail, ROR?

So you're "Satanic Goat" now? LMAO

Jail was short and sweet. The path leading to it was long and full of misadventures.

[Frosty]

Burfict's problem isn't that he's crazy; it's that he's stupid.