****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

[DJ's left nut]

It's 100K, but the draft works like this now:

Rounds 1-10: Every pick has a slot value. Each team's picks in this round are totaled up to form a bonus pool.
Round 11-40: Each pick has a max signing value of $100k. Anything over that signing bonus must be counted as part of the team's bonus pool.

If you do not sign a player in rounds 1-10, you lose that slot's money from your bonus pool. So, basically, teams do not draft tough signs in the first 10 rounds. They wait until rounds 11-40 and then steal money from the pool to sign those kids.

Each of the Royals 5-10 picks are guys who can likely be signed for underslot value. It's possible KC could free up 750k-1,000,000 of pool money (including round 2 pick Josh Staumont, who likely signs for about 1/2 of slot).

They'll need some of that to sign Nolan Watson, the comp. pick for Shields. But they could end up with enough left over to make either Doherty or 11th round pick Ben Johnson (UT, jr.) an offer that convinces them to sign.

The Cards zagged the trend this year.

They took guys in 9 and 10 that have been obvious 11th round 'tough sign' guys in years past. The thought process, as I see it anyway, is pretty clever. I think they knew that they weren't going to get a stab at those guys in the 11th picking at the back of the round, especially not with the Astros being so aggressive in how they target those rounds. They got a good Comp! pick and commensurate salary slot, as well as the extra 3rd rounder from losing Megill last year so the Cards have a little money to play with in the top 10, not to mention permission from ownership to pay the tax on the 5% overage that doesn't cost them draft picks.

So they took those guys hoping that they'd maybe get one of them locked up (I'm thinking they like Kep Brown a lot).

It's bold and in my mind a pretty sharp strategy.

[Ebolapox]

The Cards zagged the trend this year.

They took guys in 9 and 10 that have been obvious 11th round 'tough sign' guys in years past. The thought process, as I see it anyway, is pretty clever. I think they knew that they weren't going to get a stab at those guys in the 11th picking at the back of the round, especially not with the Astros being so aggressive in how they target those rounds. They got a good Comp! pick and commensurate salary slot, as well as the extra 3rd rounder from losing Megill last year so the Cards have a little money to play with in the top 10, not to mention permission from ownership to pay the tax on the 5% overage that doesn't cost them draft picks.

So they took those guys hoping that they'd maybe get one of them locked up (I'm thinking they like Kep Brown a lot).

It's bold and in my mind a pretty sharp strategy.

lolz, trying for the royals thread? intriguing nonetheless

[Pitt Gorilla]

Per PowerMizzou, 2016 offensive lineman Mackenzie Nworah has committed to Missouri.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Updated OP with all 2016 commits in separate spoiler. Stupid fuck interface is jamming all the text together, despite me manually entering in spaces. Apologies.

[KChiefs1]

Pinkel is on fire!

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1732900/highlights/203971392/v2


The run of commitments continues for the Mizzou football class of 2016.

Tonight the Tigers added Nashville (Ill.) offensive tackle Royce Newman he confirmed with PowerMizzou.

The class total is now 11 with seven of those commitments happening since Friday, June 5.

Newman recently camped with Mizzou for three days and performed well enough to earn an offer from Gary Pinkel and his coaches.

The 6-foot-7, 280 pound prospect has been on the Tigers radar for a while having attended multiple events in Columbia in the last several months.

[kcchiefsus]

Pinkel is on fire!

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1732900/highlights/203971392/v2

Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Certainly an under-the-radar type with a projectable frame.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.

I understand the strategy from this point: the state has a dearth of high-level talent this year. Thus, if you can secure a solid-ish class early, you can focus more resources on the guys who would be better gets.

Basically, "a bird in hand" philosophy. If you go all-in on guys that are lower percentage plays, then you run the risk of having a Kim Anderson recruiting class.

[kcchiefsus]

Certainly an under-the-radar type with a projectable frame.

Under-the-radar types are fine, but when just about the entire class so far is that type it's really puzzling to say the least.

I just don't think this recruiting strategy is going to get it done in the SEC.

Maybe it's because the in-state talent sucks this year? Either way, we can't just rely on in-state talent so we have to be able to pull higher end talent from elsewhere.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.
Why do you think this guy is average? Honest question. A guy I know and trust was raving about him in camp. I don't understand why Mizzou fan isn't thrilled with this commit. I mean, if you do nothing else, watch his film.

[duncan_idaho]

Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.

It is JUNE. I'd be willing to bet at least 2/3 of these guys pick up more offers as the year goes on.

Other staffs and the recruiting services realize Missouri excels at identifying talent. Rankings and offers follow most "out of the blue" guys Missouri offers.

[Saul Good]

Seeing big offer lists is great, but our staff's ability to project what guys like this will become is very well established. I'll take another Britt or Morse every time.

[Pitt Gorilla]

24/7 Sports has Newman as our highest rated recruit (with 4 stars). I suppose that will make some on here feel better. Of course, it's still the same kid.

[Pitt Gorilla]

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[kchero]

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Saw this on PM...I like it :thumb:

[Pitt Gorilla]

For Father's Day.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/ziggy-hood-son-fathers-day/

[Sully]

For Father's Day.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/ziggy-hood-son-fathers-day/

Thank you.

[KChiefs1]

Saw this on PM...I like it :thumb:


Awesome.

[Bowser]

Missouri junior defensive lineman Harold Brantley has been injured in a car wreck, according to KRCG13 reporter Ashley Zavala.

Mizzou Women’s basketball player Maddie Stock was also in the car with Brantley.

Zavala’s Twitter timeline included details and a photo of the accident:


According to the report by Zavala, the car Brantley was driving — a 2000 Chrysler Concorde — traveled off the left side of the road when he overcorrected to the right side. The car then struck a guardrail and overturned.

Brantley is one of the Tigers’ anchors along the defensive line for 2015 after posting a fantastic sophomore season in 2014.

We’ll keep you updated as new information is released about his status.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mizzou-football/harold-brantley-car-wreck/

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pictures from the crash site of the car Mizzou DL Harold Brantley was driving this afternoon: <a href="http://t.co/z8W3ju8ayM">pic.twitter.com/z8W3ju8ayM</a></p>&mdash; Ashley Zavala (@ZavalaA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZavalaA/status/612748350635569152">June 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Fuck.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pictures from the crash site of the car Mizzou DL Harold Brantley was driving this afternoon: <a href="http://t.co/z8W3ju8ayM">pic.twitter.com/z8W3ju8ayM</a></p>&mdash; Ashley Zavala (@ZavalaA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZavalaA/status/612748350635569152">June 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Bitch's new av?

[Mizzou_8541]

Man I hope he is ok. Per PM, not wearing his seatbelt...

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> spokesman, Harold Brantley’s injuries not life threatening. At this point, no more to share, when there is, will pass it on.</p>&mdash; Gabe DeArmond (@GabeDeArmond) <a href="https://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/612792218634424320">June 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Captain Obvious]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> spokesman, Harold Brantley’s injuries not life threatening. At this point, no more to share, when there is, will pass it on.</p>&mdash; Gabe DeArmond (@GabeDeArmond) <a href="https://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/612792218634424320">June 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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:thumb:

[kchero]

Bitch's new av?

Exactly, that sack of shit.

[Pitt Gorilla]

From PowerMizzou:

University of Missouri junior defensive tackle Harold Brantley is in good condition and recovering nicely following surgery performed for injuries he sustained in an automobile accident Sunday afternoon in the Columbia area. We’re pleased to report that the prognosis is very good long-term, and that Harold should be able to make a full physical recovery.


I received the following update this morning from Rex Sharp, Associate Athletic Director for Sports Medicine, and our Head Football Athletic Trainer. Please share this with your readers/listeners/viewers as you see fit:


·The injuries sustained in the accident included a fracture in his lower left leg (tibia), and this was successfully repaired surgically last night...

·Harold also sustained some ligament damage in his left knee which will require surgery at a later date, perhaps within 3-4 weeks…

·Additionally, Harold sustained multiple rib fractures and is naturally pretty sore from those…

·If Harold continues to progress as scheduled, he will be out of ICU Tuesday and moved into a regular room…

·It’s too soon to put a timetable on a planned return to football activities, so we’re going to leave that open and focus all attention on helping Harold recover and get back to full health first. When that information becomes known, we’ll certainly share it with everyone…

·Harold is receiving world-class healthcare from Mizzou team orthopaedists Dr. Pat Smith and Dr. Jim Stannard, in addition to the healthcare team at University Hospital. We are grateful for the multitude of prayers and well wishes from all over the country for both Harold and Maddie Stock, and are very thankful that they are both okay…

Thank-you for your assistance in sharing this with our fans. They are encouraged to share comments at our Facebook page atwww.facebook.com/mutigersdotcom

[Pitt Gorilla]

Sounds to me like Harold will be a part of the 2016 team instead of the 2015 team. That hurts, given our lack of depth on the D-line, but it could make for another outstanding line in 2016.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Sounds to me like Harold will be a part of the 2016 team instead of the 2015 team. That hurts, given our lack of depth on the D-line, but it could make for another outstanding line in 2016.

That's the way we have to look at it. I just hope he is able to make a full recovery.

US 63 is much safer than it used to be. He's lucky he wasn't driving that road 20 years ago. What a death trap it was.

[WhawhaWhat]

Do not Google broken tibia. Bad pictures appear.

[WhawhaWhat]

Maty Mauk's dad was diagnosed with colorectal cancer.

http://www.missourinet.com/2015/06/24/springfield-glendale-football-coach-mike-mauk-to-begin-treatments-for-cancer-plans-to-keep-coaching/

[Saul Good]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/ot-commits-to-mizzou-immediately-elevates-to-four-star-prospect-061515

Nice bump for our newest football recruit.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> football lines (via Golden Nugget)
(-11) vs S Car
(-10) vs UF
(+8.5) @ UGA
(-6) vs Miss St
(-12) vs BYU
(-2.5) vs UT
(+7) vs Arky</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/614527078189248513">June 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Saul Good]

The only line there that makes sense to me is UT.

[Saul Good]

Also, the Arky game is away.

[Pitt Gorilla]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/ot-commits-to-mizzou-immediately-elevates-to-four-star-prospect-061515

Nice bump for our newest football recruit.Wow, he's suddenly a much better prospect! As a 2* recruit, he was a massive reach. Now, as a 4* recruit, he's a HUGE get!

[Pitt Gorilla]

Another low star/offer guy:

http://www.macon.com/2015/06/21/3807347_west-laurens-smith-elite-in-two.html?rh=1

West Laurens’ Smith elite in two sports, even undecided

BY MICHAEL A. LOUGH
mlough@macon.comJune 21, 2015

When Missouri offered West Laurens’ Justin Smith a football scholarship, there’s no doubt fans of the Tigers were a little worried.

When he committed in the middle of January, stories noted that he had not earned a “star” in assorted recruiting ratings, like from ESPN.com or Rivals.

By the time National Signing Day rolled around in early February, despite not having played football since November, stars appeared next to his name, mostly three stars.

Smith was then, and still is, unbothered by the perceived lack of attention. After all, he might’ve been more of a basketball player than football player up until the middle of the fall of 2014.

“I never really worried about stars all that much,” Smith said. “I knew the reason why I didn’t have any.”

Because his summers were filled mostly with playing travel basketball rather than making the summer camp circuit at colleges or competing in assorted 7-on-7 competitions, Smith understood the lack of attention.

“I was out of state and always on the go,” Smith said. “I didn’t really have a chance to go to the ... camps every year. I was always playing basketball. That’s probably the main reason I don’t have any stars or why my recruiting wasn’t as good as it could’ve been.”

There was also a perception that he favored basketball.

Football eased ahead of basketball during the fall, but Smith’s impact in both sports was huge. Throw in a sixth-place finish in the GHSA Class AAAA track and field meet, and it was a pretty full year for The Telegraph’s Selby Buck Athlete of the Year.

Smith was a first-team Georgia Sports Writers Association all-state selection and a second-team All-Middle Georgia receiver last fall, following up with All-Middle Georgia honorable mention in basketball.

Then he finished sixth in the high jump in thE GHSA meet, earning honorable mention All-Middle Georgia in that event.

Competition for the top athlete honor was tight, with male and female multi-sport standouts at Veterans, Fitzgerald, Northside, Jones County, Lamar County and Hawkinsville, among others.

Ironically, Smith’s senior season at West Laurens almost didn’t happen.

Basketball had always had the edge over football for Smith, who didn’t play football as a sophomore and spent summers playing travel basketball. Then suddenly, West Laurens football head coach Stacy Nobles heard last summer that Smith was heading to Hargrave Military Academy, a prep school in Virginia, to focus on improving his basketball skills and his stock.

“We almost didn’t have him,” Nobles said. “For 2- 1/2 weeks, he was gone.”

And then he was back.

“He came back in town and talked to me and (basketball head coach O.J.) Hall. ‘I’ve decided to stay here at West Laurens and finish my senior year with my friends and see where the football and basketball thing can go.’ ” Nobles said.

That certainly paid off for Smith and West Laurens.

Smith helped the football team to a 9-4 record, the program’s best since going 10-3 in 1994 and only the fourth nine-win season in its history. The Raiders went 5-1 in GHSA Region 2-AAAA and broke the 30-point mark in five games, matching the total of the previous two seasons.

They won a pair of playoff games before losing 31-13 to St. Pius X on the road in the quarterfinals. It’s a game he’d like to replay.

“We should have jelled a little bit more than we did,” Smith said. “We should have done certain stuff a little bit harder, like running routes or run the ball harder. Just do more.”

Smith finished with 65 catches for 1,038 yards for the resurgent Raiders. Transition time was minimal for Smith to trade in cleats for high-tops.

“As soon as the football season is over with,” Hall said, “(you) step off the field on Friday night and (are) back on the basketball court on Monday.”

Smith said his numbers could have been better, but he thought it best for the team if he pulled back a little bit, which would force more teammates to expand their own game, leading to more success.

Hall said that’s typical Smith.

“He’s very selfless guy,” said Hall, a sentiment echoed by Nobles. “There’s not a selfish bone in his body. He’s always been willing to sacrifice what his abilities allow him to do in order for everybody else around him to be better.”

West Laurens was the No. 2 team out of the region in the playoffs and beat Westover in the first round before losing by 15 to Johnson-Gainesville in the second round.

The 22-8 record was the Raiders’ best since before Smith reached high school.

Then came spring.

Smith reached 6-foot three times in the high jump and 6-4 twice, tying his personal best. He also competed once in the 200 meters and in the 400 and ran a leg in a relay at the state meet.

The focus on football, as well as finishing up his senior year in high school, meant Smith wasn’t on the track every day. Hall can only imagine what the resume would have looked like if Smith had more time for track.

“In between everything that was going on, he would jump on the days that he didn’t have anything else going on in either one of those two sports,” Hall said of Smith’s basketball and football work.

Smith realized that there are substantially fewer 6-7 football players than basketball players, which played a big role in him finally picking football. And that final football game left him wanting more.

“He told me the night we lost to St. Pius that he had made his mind up, that he wanted to play college football,” Nobles said. “I know that made a lot of college recruiters real, real happy. There were a lot of people that didn’t offer Justin, I think, because they weren’t sure what he was going to do.”

Nobles and Hall are convinced that Smith escaped to Missouri under the radar and will be on the radar soon enough. Finally, however, it will be the radar of just one sport.

“I think his upside in football is going to be remarkable, just because he’s going to be playing the game full-time,” Hall said. “He’s going to be in the weight room getting stronger. His route-running is going to get better. I think there are so many things that’s going to be an upside for him in football ...”

Both talk of Smith’s high ceiling on the next level.

“At 6-7, a wide receiver that can power clean 310 pounds and run a 4.5 40, you’re a special player,” Nobles said. “He didn’t reach his potential in high school. (Football) was always a second deal for him and something he almost didn’t do.

“He hadn’t even come close to being the player he can be. He can start reaching for that ceiling now.”

[kcchiefsus]

Anybody see the thing about Ondre Pipkins supposedly being asked to quit football by Harbaugh?

Maybe don't commit to Michigan and you wouldn't be dealing with that crap.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Anybody see the thing about Ondre Pipkins supposedly being asked to quit football by Harbaugh?

Maybe don't commit to Michigan and you wouldn't be dealing with that crap.

Yeah. He ended up being a massive disappointment there. I bet he wishes he could have had four years of coaching under Kuligowski and a coaching staff that treated him like a human being.

[Bob Dole]

UGA is going to have a tough time playing with all the national media packed in their ass.

[duncan_idaho]

Yeah. He ended up being a massive disappointment there. I bet he wishes he could have had four years of coaching under Kuligowski and a coaching staff that treated him like a human being.

Just another example of a highly ranked Missouri kid getting stars in his eyes and not having things work out for him in the end.

For every Ezekiel Elliott and Laurence Maroney, there are 5+ Pipkins, Dan Tapkos, Ronnie Wingo Jrs, Nick Pattersons, etc.

[O.city]

Spent the afternoon hanging out with an old tiger back up qb at our country club pool. Any of you guys need a dentist in Columbia, dr Patton is your man. Super guy

[Pitt Gorilla]

You know you're living right.

Titans long-snapper hits hole-in-one, wins barrel of Jack Daniels

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25229342/titans-long-snapper-hits-hole-in-one-wins-barrel-of-jack-daniels

What's better than hitting a hole-in-one? Hitting a hole-in-one and having someone give you an entire barrel of whiskey for it. Welcome to the dream, Beau Brinkley. The Titans long snapper recently sunk an ace while playing golf and as a result he's going to claim a prize of AN ENTIRE BARREL of Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Select.

A whole barrel! Brinkley was playing in a Nashville tournament where Jack was a sponsor, so he knew there were some stakes involved where he could hit a hole-in-one and win a mammoth prize.

But when he stepped up to the 182-yard Par 3 he didn't plan on soaking in whiskey for the next year (or four).

"You could see the flag but you couldn't see the hole," Brinkley told ESPN after hitting the ace. "After I hit it, it felt really good. Probably the most accurate golf shot I've ever hit.

"Walked up there ... I kind of creeped in, saw it and just went crazy. Threw my hat, chest-bumped all my teammates."

A full barrel of whiskey is appromixately 250 bottles (!) of Jack and Brinkley gets to head over to Lynchberg, Tennessee and pick out samples from the Jack Daniels Distillery to claim his barrel.

Rough offseason for Brinkley.

[KChiefs1]

Pinkel on ESPN.

[TribalElder]

Justin Smith may join University of Missouri coaching staff

After taking a few months to contemplate his future, defensive end Justin Smith told the 49ers that he wouldn’t be returning to the field for the 2015 season.

His next step may not take him too far away from a football team, however. University of Missouri coach Gary Pinkel said at Wednesday’s installment of the SEC media days that Smith may join the team’s coaching staff. Pinkel said that Smith would work with players on conditioning if he does come aboard.

“I think he wants to get involved in the weight room a little bit with our players and help us out,” Pinkel said, via NFL.com. “That would be great if he can do that. He would be a tremendous asset to us. He’s from Jefferson City, the state capital, about 25 miles south of Columbia. He’s going to be living right in Columbia and we’d love to have him come back. I talked to Andy Hill, who recruited him, our quarterback coach, and we’ll see.”

Smith played three years at Missouri before becoming the fourth overall pick in the 2001 NFL draft.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/15/justin-smith-may-join-university-of-missouri-staff/

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Brantley out for the year. We all knew it but it was confirmed by GP yesterday. Said he was lucky to be alive.
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[duncan_idaho]

I'm concerned about the 2015 season at this point...

No Brantley and no Loud has me concerned about the DL, which is rather unfortunate considering how good I think the back 7 on D is going to be.

The nice thing, I guess, is that I think Barry Odom is a lot more creative about generating pressure, based on his work at Memphis, and the blitzes they showed in the spring were a lot more effective than anything we've seen at Mizzou under Pinkel (and apparently those were the 'vanilla' looks).

But that DL has gotten thin. I was confident DT would at least be a strength with Brantley, August and Hatley forming a strong top 3. That looks like a tougher gig now.

Depth at DE is now terrifyingly slim. Hopefully Harris and Frazier can give some good production, and they can find at least one bench guy who can produce.

Pair that with concerns about WR and Mauk in general, and it could become a "disappointing" season pretty quickly.

RE: Justin Smith...

I'd expect his "event coordinating" will involve showing up to do some unofficial recruiting work at recruiting events (he's involved, the host of the recruit visits, which allows him to interact with recruits as much as he wants). It's a clever way to get another selling point on staff without making him an official football team staff member.

Similar to what OSU does with Stacey Elliott, only more legit, since he's an actual employee and not a dad (who has all the time in the world off of work to be on-campus and spend hours talking to other recruits and parents).

[Saul Good]

I'm with you. We are likely going to take a big step back this year. The schedule is kind of strange this year. Nearly every game is winnable, but nearly every game is losable. If we lost to BYU and Arkansas State, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Of course, we could beat both of them and Arkansas and grab at least a share of the East again, and I wouldn't be shocked.

[kepp]

With WR being such a huge question mark, the season could go either way. Personally, I'm expecting a bit of a letdown season. Not a losing season, but I don't expect we'll win the East again. 8 wins.

[WhawhaWhat]

How many times during games this year will the TV crew talk about Mizzou's D-Line and then show a picture of Brantley's car wreck?

[KChiefs1]

How many times during games this year will the TV crew talk about Mizzou's D-Line and then show a picture of Brantley's car wreck?


Every game.

[kcchiefsus]

This is just the type of shit that happens to this team. You'll probably never see Alabama or Auburn lose one of their best players to an accident right before the season, but it sure as hell happens to us.

[Titty Meat]

I'm with you. We are likely going to take a big step back this year. The schedule is kind of strange this year. Nearly every game is winnable, but nearly every game is losable. If we lost to BYU and Arkansas State, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Of course, we could beat both of them and Arkansas and grab at least a share of the East again, and I wouldn't be shocked.

Is BYU supposed to be good this year?

[Saul Good]

Is BYU supposed to be good this year?

I don't know how good they will be, but if Hill is healthy, they're a very dangerous team.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm expecting 7-5 this year. The skill positions are as weak as they've been since Gabbert's Junior year, and our DL is now thin and inexperienced.

It just seems like a lot of dominos are falling the wrong way. Some of it is also reaping the rewards from the awful 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes, though.

[KChiefs1]

The DL worries me but Odom will probably institute the 3-4 defense to compensate for the DL losses. WR is another worry too as they are so young & inexperienced.

I predict a 9-3 record thru my black & gold colored glasses.

[kepp]

The DL worries me but Odom will probably institute the 3-4 defense to compensate for the DL losses. WR is another worry too as they are so young & inexperienced.

I predict a 9-3 record thru my black & gold colored glasses.

I would jump for joy with 9-3.

[duncan_idaho]

The DL worries me but Odom will probably institute the 3-4 defense to compensate for the DL losses. WR is another worry too as they are so young & inexperienced.

I predict a 9-3 record thru my black & gold colored glasses.

I doubt they ever go to that as a base defense. And they don't have the DL personnel.

Augusta is the only DT they have who fits what you want at the nose in a 34 in the SEC, and he already has stamina issues. AJ Logan has the size but is completely unproven.

Hatley can play one DE, but after that you've got a bunch of light/quick 43-style DEs and not really anyone else who fits the 34 DE spot (maybe Beckner?).

Just not enough depth to run a 34 consistently.

Now, I could see them using some 3-man front looks on passing downs to try to be confusing and mix up pressure... but running it as the base? Nah.

[KChiefs1]

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye-on-college-football/25243625/friday-five-the-most-disrespected-programs-in-college-football



1. Missouri: It wasn't all that difficult to figure out who my No. 1 team would be. It was always going to be Missouri. Whether in the Big 12, or now in the SEC, this is just a team that plenty of people just assume is due for a relapse of sorts. It's just, aside from a hiccup here and there, it doesn't happen.

Since 2007, the Tigers have won 10 games or more five times in eight seasons. When Missouri joined the SEC in 2012, it went 5-7 and everybody was gladly telling anyone within earshot about what a mistake it was for the Tigers to leave the Big 12 for the big, bad, SEC, where it would serve as nothing but cannon fodder for years to come.

The Tigers then responded by going 23-5 the last two seasons (14-2 in the SEC) and won the SEC East twice. Still, they are dismissed. Maybe it's because they haven't won the SEC itself (in their two SEC title games they've lost to Alabama and Auburn by a combined score of 101-55), or perhaps it's due to the fact we believe the SEC East to be "wide open" every year (meaning anybody can win), but we still refuse to give Mizzou the credit for what it's done.

And it's no different this year. At SEC Media Days, the Tigers were picked to finish third in the SEC East, behind a Tennessee team that hasn't won the SEC East since 2007 and hasn't won more than seven games in any season since then. Makes sense, right?

[Pitt Gorilla]

1-step box jump for Stribling IV.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="http://t.co/hNGrIiCnhY">pic.twitter.com/hNGrIiCnhY</a></p>&mdash; Swagg IV⚡️ (@fls4swagg) <a href="https://twitter.com/fls4swagg/status/622064345866874881">July 17, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bowser]

1-step box jump for Stribling IV.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="http://t.co/hNGrIiCnhY">pic.twitter.com/hNGrIiCnhY</a></p>&mdash; Swagg IV⚡️ (@fls4swagg) <a href="https://twitter.com/fls4swagg/status/622064345866874881">July 17, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit

[Bowser]

1-step box jump for Stribling IV.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="http://t.co/hNGrIiCnhY">pic.twitter.com/hNGrIiCnhY</a></p>&mdash; Swagg IV⚡️ (@fls4swagg) <a href="https://twitter.com/fls4swagg/status/622064345866874881">July 17, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit. I think I would need a jet pack to get myself up there.

[WhawhaWhat]

61 inches on that jump. I bet he can dunk.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

And I was proud of myself for doing a flat-footed jump from the ground into the back of a truck bed a few months ago... :facepalm:

[WhawhaWhat]

Mizzou ranked 23rd in Preseason Coaches Poll.

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/2015/1/

[L.A. Chieffan]

Damn the arrest description on Sheldon Richardson sounds like straight out of a movie.

[DJ's left nut]

He won't be playing this year.

And really, it wouldn't be completely shocking to see the Jets cut him outright. That's a BAD look.

Dude's lucky he didn't get himself shot. Leading cops on a high speed chase and then reaching to the floor when they finally corner you is a good way for a handful of rounds to come through the window.

[KChiefs1]

Damn the arrest description on Sheldon Richardson sounds like straight out of a movie.


?

[Discuss Thrower]

?

Drag racing with a 12 year old in the car along with nice amounts of weed.

[O.city]

He won't be playing this year.

And really, it wouldn't be completely shocking to see the Jets cut him outright. That's a BAD look.

Dude's lucky he didn't get himself shot. Leading cops on a high speed chase and then reaching to the floor when they finally corner you is a good way for a handful of rounds to come through the window.

Someone on twitter (freeman i think) saying he'd heard guys around the league that didn't think he'd ever play again.

He's really good so someone will take a chance but what a dumbass move

[WhawhaWhat]

Bring him in for a look?

[Mizzou_8541]

First time I've embedded a tweet, so my apologies if I screw this up. Pretty cool shot of Kenya Dennis blowing up a play.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh my goodness, Kenya Dennis. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> <a href="https://t.co/wcrfJ8cMDc">https://t.co/wcrfJ8cMDc</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/627142168000528384">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[DJ's left nut]

At some point you have to buy into the MizzouMade stuff.

Dennis was a nice JUCO pickup but with a season of growth like last year he could potentially make himself a 1st rounder. I think it's fair to say NOBODY saw that kind of ascension coming.

I'd be shocked if he isn't a 2nd day pick at worst next year.

[DJ's left nut]

Tyler Howell ruled academically ineligible.

Oh well - he's that O-Lineman that's like 6'8''; more of an oddity than anything. I don't think anyone expected a contribution from him this season anyway. I think he'll still have 2 years to play 2 (I'm pretty sure he had 3 years to play 2 prior to this as a JUCO transfer).

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs have signed former Missouri WR L&#39;Damian Washington</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/628331233597091840">August 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs have signed former Missouri WR L&#39;Damian Washington</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/628331233597091840">August 3, 2015</a></blockquote>
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7th team in 15 months

[DJ's left nut]

Bryce Banks decommitted.

{shrug}

Seemed like a throwaway offer to a local kid to keep the Columbia football community happy. I didn't really care when we got him so I can't claim to care when we lost him. I think we'll be better off banking the scholly.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Bryce Banks decommitted.

{shrug}

Seemed like a throwaway offer to a local kid to keep the Columbia football community happy. I didn't really care when we got him so I can't claim to care when we lost him. I think we'll be better off banking the scholly.Alton took his spot. I liked Banks, though. If you read PowerMizzou, it's a weird situation.

[DJ's left nut]

Alton took his spot. I liked Banks, though. If you read PowerMizzou, it's a weird situation.

I do not.

I suppose it will trickle out soon enough.

[DJ's left nut]

Alton took his spot. I liked Banks, though. If you read PowerMizzou, it's a weird situation.

Evidently he just wants to get the hell out of town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej6MCCklU4U

Eh, understandable. It's probably a good thing for him to get away from what appear to be some pretty bad influences on his life.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Evidently he just wants to get the hell out of town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej6MCCklU4U

Eh, understandable. It's probably a good thing for him to get away from what appear to be some pretty bad influences on his life.That was the story on PM.

[Stargazer]

Time to strap it up and get to work. It's football season fellas!

[Pitt Gorilla]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/RvnKD_NPasQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Stargazer]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/RvnKD_NPasQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bad ass! :thumb:

[WhawhaWhat]

Aldon Smith booked in Santa Clara County Jail (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/07/aldon-smith-booked-in-santa-clara-county-jail/)

Bye bye NFL career.

[KChiefs1]

Aldon Smith booked in Santa Clara County Jail (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/07/aldon-smith-booked-in-santa-clara-county-jail/)

Bye bye NFL career.


49ers released him. What a waste.

[duncan_idaho]

Drew Lock is clearly outperforming Mauk in scrimmages, according to what I'm hearing from people with eyes on.

Maybe Harold Brantley can take Maty for a ride...

[Jerm]

Drew Lock is clearly outperforming Mauk in scrimmages, according to what I'm hearing from people with eyes on.

Maybe Harold Brantley can take Maty for a ride...

Wonder if Pinkel will have the balls to start him...I see a redshirt coming though sadly.

[KChiefs1]

Wonder if Pinkel will have the balls to start him...I see a redshirt coming though sadly.


Chase Daniel got to play a series each half as a freshman. If you hear Lock is going get a series here & there then Pinkel is slowly putting him into the QB.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Doubtful he would ever start this year. Pinkel always gives the young qb several series before they are handed the keys. If they have no faith in mauk I would expect lock to not red shirt and get his experience this year, leading to a competition next year, where the job is up for grabs. I don't see Pinkel awarding the job to lock this year outside of injury. Pinkel's loyalty to his hand picked Ohio qb tells me the job is mauks this year, my question is if he has a shit year, does lock get a fair chance next year?
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[Pitt Gorilla]

Doubtful he would ever start this year. Pinkel always gives the young qb several series before they are handed the keys. If they have no faith in mauk I would expect lock to not red shirt and get his experience this year, leading to a competition next year, where the job is up for grabs. I don't see Pinkel awarding the job to lock this year outside of injury. Pinkel's loyalty to his hand picked Ohio qb tells me the job is mauks this year, my question is if he has a shit year, does lock get a fair chance next year?
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Absolutely not! /Kirk farmer.

[Sully]

Wonder if Pinkel will have the balls to start him...I see a redshirt coming though sadly.

Is he the Pinkel that sticks with his guy no mater what, or the Pinkel that surprised everyone and started brad Smith against Illinois?

[Sully]

Absolutely not! /Kirk farmer.

Beat me to it...

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Didn't he inherit Farmer? A fragile inherited qb vs his hand picked qb? I'm guessing we see the loyal pinkel here.
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[Pitt Gorilla]

Didn't he inherit Farmer? A fragile inherited qb vs his hand picked qb? I'm guessing we see the loyal pinkel here.
Posted via Mobile DeviceTotally. /Chase Daniel filling in for Brad Smith at Iowa State.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Totally. /Chase Daniel filling in for Brad Smith at Iowa State.

You seem to be agreeing with me. Pinkel has a long history of giving the next guy in line several series the year before he is given the keys. 2005 was literally that year for Chase, and that was an injury situation vs ISU anyway. I'm saying g I think next year will be locks year to get his playing time from time to time. Now, if mauk is still shitty, lock may not red shirt this year, and he could get his playing time/exposure this year, but I think that would be a departure from Pinkels usual loyalty to a fault. Mauk is the starter this year based on how our last 4 qb careers have gone. We aren't starting a true freshman this year.
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[Pitt Gorilla]

You seem to be agreeing with me. Pinkel has a long history of giving the next guy in line several series the year before he is given the keys. 2005 was literally that year for Chase, and that was an injury situation vs ISU anyway. I'm saying g I think next year will be locks year to get his playing time from time to time. Now, if mauk is still shitty, lock may not red shirt this year, and he could get his playing time/exposure this year, but I think that would be a departure from Pinkels usual loyalty to a fault. Mauk is the starter this year based on how our last 4 qb careers have gone. We aren't starting a true freshman this year.
Posted via Mobile DeviceI agree Lock won't start. Hell, I think he'll probably redshirt. Next year, however, all bets are off. Lock very well could be the starter in 2016.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

I agree Lock won't start. Hell, I think he'll probably redshirt. Next year, however, all bets are off. Lock very well could be the starter in 2016.

Which would still be a departure from how GP has always handled the QB situation. Not saying its impossible, but if he RS Lock this year, I'd be surprised if he starts a game next year. It would take a tailspin of a season that can be solely attributed to Mauk to make Lock the starter next year. I see very little chance of Lock starting the season as the starter in 2016 if he RS in 2015.
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[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Drew Lock is clearly outperforming Mauk in scrimmages, according to what I'm hearing from people with eyes on.

Maybe Harold Brantley can take Maty for a ride...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/bb/showpost.php?p=10909224&postcount=1380

Nailed it last year

[Saul Good]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/bb/showpost.php?p=10909224&postcount=1380

Nailed it last year

Congratulations on replying to a post that said the exact same thing.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Congratulations on replying to a post that said the exact same thing.

Thanks, bro. Though, a little later in the thread, I think the Stephen McGee comparison really took it to the next level of hot takez.

[Saul Good]

Thanks, bro. Though, a little later in the thread, I think the Stephen McGee comparison really took it to the next level of hot takez.

Any time you can compare a guy who threw 28 TD passes in his career as a 3 year starter to a guy who has thrown 36 TDs in one year as a starter with 2 years of eligibility left, you've got to do it.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Any time you can compare a guy who threw 28 TD passes in his career as a 3 year starter to a guy who has thrown 36 TDs in one year as a starter with 2 years of eligibility left, you've got to do it.

McGee was a 2-year starter.

[Saul Good]

McGee was a 2-year starter.

He was their starter in 2006, 2007, and started in 2008 until he lost his job during the season.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

He was their starter in 2006, 2007, and started in 2008 until he lost his job during the season.

While true, he lost his job after week 1. He did start 2 games later in the year

[Dr. Gigglepants]

http://www.columbiatribune.com/blogs/behind_the_stripes/mu-fall-scrimmage-statistics/article_52e34c54-4750-11e5-8752-b71f3568bb9b.html

Lock completed 6 of 8 passes for 64 yards and a 14-yard touchdown throw to walk-on Oke Akushe against the 3s, a play in which Lock threaded the ball in there, Akushe made a nice grab in traffic, then paid for it on a targeting hit from Ronnell Perkins. But he held on.

I saw a post on r/cfb about this moment where Akushe caught that ball. The reporter said the whole offensive sideline went wild. I guess this guy is a very recent walk on and the team must like him.

Not important but a cool developing story, who knows.

[Predarat]

Welcome to Murfreesboro, Tennessee in 2022.

http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/2015/08/26/mtsu-football-inks-three-game-series-mizzou/32415411/

[Mizzou_8541]

Not sure if anyone else will find this interesting, but former Ohio State TE commit Josh Moore from Olathe, KS looks like he's going to play as true freshman on the DL this year. Not sure if that's a function of losing Loud and Brantley, or that he's just that good. Either way, it's surprising considering he hasn't been talked about much during fall practices. This is all from PowerMizzou.

[ChiTown]

Not sure if anyone else will find this interesting, but former Ohio State TE commit Josh Moore from Olathe, KS looks like he's going to play as true freshman on the DL this year. Not sure if that's a function of losing Loud and Brantley, or that he's just that good. Either way, it's surprising considering he hasn't been talked about much during fall practices. This is all from PowerMizzou.

Oh, the kid is a true talent, no doubt. There's a reason why tOSU wanted his ass in Columbus before they eventually said, no thanks. His issue has ALWAYS been that 6-inch football field that exists between his ears. If he can keep from getting in his own way, he can be an All SEC type talent.

[Saul Good]

Oh, the kid is a true talent, no doubt. There's a reason why tOSU wanted his ass in Columbus before they eventually said, no thanks. His issue has ALWAYS been that 6-inch football field that exists between his ears. If he can keep from getting in his own way, he can be an All SEC type talent.

I think he wanted to play TE at Ohio State. They didn't want him as a TE.

[duncan_idaho]

Oh, the kid is a true talent, no doubt. There's a reason why tOSU wanted his ass in Columbus before they eventually said, no thanks. His issue has ALWAYS been that 6-inch football field that exists between his ears. If he can keep from getting in his own way, he can be an All SEC type talent.

The biggest reason is that he was a long shot to qualify and Ohio State didn't like him enough to save a spot for him.

He's talented. I don't think he'd be playing if Harold Brantley was healthy, but the 2015 recruiting class has some special DL talent on it... Jacobs, Moore and Beckner have all been very good. That's three good DTs in the middle... And Nate Howard has looked great at DE in camp as well.

[Pitt Gorilla]

The biggest reason is that he was a long shot to qualify and Ohio State didn't like him enough to save a spot for him.

He's talented. I don't think he'd be playing if Harold Brantley was healthy, but the 2015 recruiting class has some special DL talent on it... Jacobs, Moore and Beckner have all been very good. That's three good DTs in the middle... And Nate Howard has looked great at DE in camp as well.
I was shocked that Moore was already up over 280.

[duncan_idaho]

I was shocked that Moore was already up over 280.

It's not that hard to put on 30 pounds of weight over a spring summer, even focusing on putting on "good" weight.

[Bowser]

At the risk of looking like a silly fanboy (sue me, I know the kid, lol) - how is Marquise Doherty looking? Heard he was getting reps with the first team offense...

[KChiefs1]

It's not that hard to put on 30 pounds of weight over a spring summer, even focusing on putting on "good" weight.


Amazing.

http://www.hudl.com/v/F2Res

[Stargazer]

At the risk of looking like a silly fanboy (sue me, I know the kid, lol) - how is Marquise Doherty looking? Heard he was getting reps with the first team offense...

He's been a solid camp contributor, definitely scored a few td's in the scrimmages.

[duncan_idaho]

At the risk of looking like a silly fanboy (sue me, I know the kid, lol) - how is Marquise Doherty looking? Heard he was getting reps with the first team offense...

Early returns are that he has the size and speed to be one of Missouri's best all-around backs. I'd expect him to be a feature back type starting next season.

Definite NFL potential.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Lock 2nd on the QB depth to start the season, behind Maty Mauk. Eddie Printz and Marvin Zanders are &quot;OR&quot; 3rd stringers.</p>&mdash; David Morrison (@DavidCMorrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidCMorrison/status/638426605379956736">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Lock 2nd on the QB depth to start the season, behind Maty Mauk. Eddie Printz and Marvin Zanders are &quot;OR&quot; 3rd stringers.</p>— David Morrison (@DavidCMorrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidCMorrison/status/638426605379956736">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So much for that redshirt.

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> depth chart for Week 1... <a href="http://t.co/0bDbsLjdOK">pic.twitter.com/0bDbsLjdOK</a></p>&mdash; Steven St.John (@SSJWHB) <a href="https://twitter.com/SSJWHB/status/638428993406922752">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> depth chart for Week 1... <a href="http://t.co/0bDbsLjdOK">pic.twitter.com/0bDbsLjdOK</a></p>— Steven St.John (@SSJWHB) <a href="https://twitter.com/SSJWHB/status/638428993406922752">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Abeln starting over Taylor Chappell?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Abeln starting over Taylor Chappell?I've heard good things about Abeln. We're going to be pretty young on offense.

[duncan_idaho]

If Abeln is starting over Chappel, that's only a good thing. Chappel was adequate at best. Means they're likely better at RT this year, since he was the starter there a season ago.

I like seeing the youth served, personally. I'm not crazy about the chances THIS season, but think it can be a nice reload year to prep for next season.

If that's the plan... it would make sense to play Lock now. I've got to think he's close to surpassing Mauk, or they wouldn't have made this change now. If he's going to sit behind him for two years, it doesn't make much sense to burn his shirt this year.

[Priest31kc]

If Abeln is starting over Chappel, that's only a good thing. Chappel was adequate at best. Means they're likely better at RT this year, since he was the starter there a season ago.

I like seeing the youth served, personally. I'm not crazy about the chances THIS season, but think it can be a nice reload year to prep for next season.

If that's the plan... it would make sense to play Lock now. I've got to think he's close to surpassing Mauk, or they wouldn't have made this change now. If he's going to sit behind him for two years, it doesn't make much sense to burn his shirt this year.

Agreed. No way we waste two seasons of Lock's eligibility right? Sucks for Maty if so, but Lock looks like the real deal.

[Saul Good]

Crawford over Cueller is the one that surprised me. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Was this common knowledge?

[Saul Good]

Good lord our WRs are young...

[duncan_idaho]

Crawford over Cueller is the one that surprised me. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Was this common knowledge?

I think Cuellar getting here later than hoped probably set him back a bit.

WRs are young but are going to be a really good unit the next two seasons, IMO. Too bad Jon Johnson's ankle sprain was so severe... he was looking like an instant impact type before it.

[Saul Good]

I think Cuellar getting here later than hoped probably set him back a bit.

WRs are young but are going to be a really good unit the next two seasons, IMO. Too bad Jon Johnson's ankle sprain was so severe... he was looking like an instant impact type before it.

They're the weakest link on our team, IMO. I let my PM membership expire, so,I'm a little out of the loop. I'll probably re-up, but I get tired of the ridiculous hypocrisy that runs wild over there. I wish there was a better site than PM or TB.

[kepp]

What happened to Biesel at LB? I thought he was supposed to be a pretty big deal coming in.

[Saul Good]

What happened to Biesel at LB? I thought he was supposed to be a pretty big deal coming in.

White linebacker/great white hype effect. JAG recruit becomes a hero to old men on message boards...

[-King-]

What happened to that 6'7 WR? Justin Smith I think

[duncan_idaho]

What happened to Biesel at LB? I thought he was supposed to be a pretty big deal coming in.

Just overhyped due to St. Louis factor. He came into college already physically maxed out and has just been passed by better players, IMO.

They're the weakest link on our team, IMO. I let my PM membership expire, so,I'm a little out of the loop. I'll probably re-up, but I get tired of the ridiculous hypocrisy that runs wild over there. I wish there was a better site than PM or TB.

Definitely the least experienced unit, but the freshman class and sophmore/redshirt freshman class have a lot of talented players in them.

I think Wes Leftwich's injury is a blessing in disguise... getting younger, more deserving players a look.

I'm excited about Justin Smith/Emmanuel Hall/Jonathan Johnson from the 2015 class, and the 2014 class has several intriguing guys, too (Keyon Dilosa and Ray Wingo stand out, especially).

I think Dilosa - if he's fully recovered from that Achilles' injury - could be a really, really explosive player. Best bet to be the next "unheralded" superstar on the roster, IMO.

[KChiefs1]

What happened to Biesel at LB? I thought he was supposed to be a pretty big deal coming in.


Waste of a scholarship.

[Pitt Gorilla]

It's too bad Johnson's ankle is so badly damaged. He was going to play this year.

[KChiefs1]

I'm ready for football!

http://youtu.be/OTfBpZ3wuO0

[KChiefs1]

Looking at the depth chart. This is a really young team. Bodes well for the future.

[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drew Lock 2nd on the QB depth to start the season, behind Maty Mauk. Eddie Printz and Marvin Zanders are &quot;OR&quot; 3rd stringers.</p>— David Morrison (@DavidCMorrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidCMorrison/status/638426605379956736">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Locktober has a nice ring to it.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Nice piece on Charles Harris. Think you have to be a PowerMizzou member, though.

https://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1797964

[KChiefs1]

Press Guide for the SEMO game:

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/mutigers.com/documents/2015/8/31/Notes_SEMO_update.pdf

[Pitt Gorilla]

Mizzou has endured some injuries to the receiving corps (Dilosa, Johnson, etc.) over the past few years and lost a ton to graduation, but they still have a LOT of good, young talent at the position. We should be looking pretty good at WR over the next few years.

The same argument could be made for the D-line (with Brantley injured and many others graduating).

It's going to be a fun year, win or lose.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Nice Nate Brown story in the tribune. His parents are freaking geniuses.

Tigers look for Brown to be playmaker in the slot

http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu_football/tigers-look-for-brown-to-be-playmaker-in-the-slot/article_4407fc53-0cbf-53ca-ac22-e27116202c43.html

By BLAKE TOPPMEYER
Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 2:00 pm

Nate Brown isn’t entirely comfortable being cast as a veteran in the Missouri football team’s receiving corps. After all, he does have just 45 career receiving yards.

“We all kind of just see each other as equals,” Brown, a sophomore, said of MU’s receivers. “We all go out and compete and try to get each other better. We’re all young.”

Although MU’s receivers are young, they showed pretty well in three scrimmages during fall camp — especially Brown, who caught eight passes for 89 yards and a touchdown.

Coach Gary Pinkel said his receivers’ inexperience isn’t a crutch.

“It’s a great opportunity for those guys,” Pinkel said. “You’re never going to hear me say that we’re young. We’re not going to do that.”

After dipping his toe into the water last season as a true freshman, Brown will have the opportunity to put his talents more fully on display this season. He’s slated to be MU’s starter at slot receiver, with fellow sophomore J’Mon Moore and redshirt freshman Keyon Dilosa starting at outside receivers.

MU’s entire wide receiving corps has only 10 career catches. Five of those are from Brown, and two are from Moore. The other three are from senior Wesley Leftwich, who is sidelined with a knee injury and won’t play in Saturday’s season opener against Southeast Missouri State.

Put another way, Missouri’s receivers have 89 fewer career catches than SEMO senior wideout Paul McRoberts, who is one catch shy of the century mark.

Brown began his MU career as an outside receiver. He started taking reps in the slot during Missouri’s preparations for the Citrus Bowl because the usual starter, Jimmie Hunt, was out after shoulder surgery.

Brown liked his new spot, and Pinkel kept him there.

Quarterback Maty Mauk has shown a preference for slot receivers in the past. During the 2013 season, Mauk targeted the slot a higher percentage of the time than James Franklin did. Mauk threw more passes to slot receiver Marcus Lucas than to any other receiver. Outside receivers Dorial Green-Beckham and L’Damian Washington were Franklin’s favorite targets.

Mauk didn’t target the slot as heavily last season, when outside receiver Bud Sasser became his top option. However, Brown became the favorite target in MU’s three fall camp scrimmages. He was targeted 16 times while working with the first-team offense.

“He’s a big body,” sophomore safety Thomas Wilson said. “He’s quicker than people think he is, and he has great hands and is a great route runner.”

Slot receivers draw blocking responsibilities against linebackers and safeties. Brown, at 6-foot-3 and 205 pounds, is the biggest receiver on MU’s two-deep depth chart.

“He’s got to do some blocking in there, and he certainly has the size to do it,” Pinkel said. “There’s more things going on in there than out on the perimeter. He’s the most experienced receiver we have right now out there, and so we put him in there because of his experience.”

Even back in his days playing youth football, Brown “was always a lot taller than everybody,” Wilson said.

Brown played youth football with Wilson and Wilson’s twin brother, Terrance, who is now a cornerback at Buffalo. That team was flush with talent. The Wilsons were running backs. Caleb Scott played wide receiver, his position now at Vanderbilt.

Brown played quarterback.

“I used to sling it back then. That was cool,” Brown said. “That was a really fun team.”

Brown’s QB days ended after he enrolled at North Gwinnett High School in Suwanee, Ga., where the coaching staff converted him to a wide receiver. Brown wasn’t a fan of the idea at first, but he grew to like his new position.

“He really worked at his trade once we made the move,” North Gwinnett Coach Bob Sphire said. “He really worked great in the weight room. Physically, his preparation was spot on, and then, of course, from a technical standpoint, he made tremendous progress.”

Brown became a starter his junior season, when he made a remarkable catch in a televised playoff game against Johns Creek. Brown adjusted to a ball that was tipped by a Johns Creek defensive back. Brown reached out with his right hand and tapped the ball back to his left hand before corralling it with both hands and coming down in the back of the end zone for a touchdown.

“He had had his coming-out party prior to that, but that may have been one of the signature things that the media got the clips of that may have gotten the buzz going a little bit more,” Sphire said.

The next year, Brown’s 61 receptions — including 21 TDs — and 1,041 receiving yards helped North Gwinnett finish as Georgia’s Class 6A state runner-up.

“We went all the way to the state championship, and I mean to tell you, buddy, he was huge in that deal — his ability to make explosive plays down the field or to turn tunnel screens into big plays,” Sphire said.

Brown performed well in the classroom, too, and he had offers to play football at Vanderbilt and Yale. Brown’s parents, Rob and Wanda, are engineers who graduated from North Carolina A&T. Wanda went on to earn her MBA from Penn’s Wharton School of Business, and Nate Brown said his mom “always preached academics.”

“Nathan has always known that, growing up, academics came first, and assuming that he took care of what he needed to in the classroom, then he could play football,” Wanda Brown said. “What I’ll tell you is, Nathan is just one of those kids that he has been so driven and so focused that he did a great job balancing both football and academics.”

Brown narrowed his list of suitors to Missouri and Vanderbilt, and he committed to MU in September of his senior year after visiting campus with some high school teammates. Two months later, Georgia offered Brown a scholarship, but he didn’t waver in his decision.

“When Nathan came back from his weekend at Mizzou, there was just like no other school,” Wanda Brown said. “It was like everything fit. … It was like a glove fit.”

Nate Brown feels the same way about his role as MU’s starting slot receiver. It fits his game perfectly. But much like his hesitance to accept the label of being a veteran, he thinks it’s a little early to declare himself Mauk’s go-to target.

“I don’t know about favorite,” Brown said. “I mean, hopefully. Any receiver wants a lot of balls, so whenever they come my way, I’m going to make a play on it.”

[Saul Good]

Mizzou has endured some injuries to the receiving corps (Dilosa, Johnson, etc.) over the past few years and lost a ton to graduation, but they still have a LOT of good, young talent at the position. We should be looking pretty good at WR over the next few years.

The same argument could be made for the D-line (with Brantley injured and many others graduating).

It's going to be a fun year, win or lose.

I've got zero expectations for this season. Pinkel coached his ass off last year to win 11 games, and it was a freak series of events away from being 12. This year is just setting the table for next year.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

I've got zero expectations for this season. Pinkel coached his ass off last year to win 11 games, and it was a freak series of events away from being 12. This year is just setting the table for next year.

The more I look at it, I think we need to be 6-0 going into the GA game. I know we shouldn't expect too much this year, but which one of those first 6 should we be comfortable losing? If we lose to that SC team at home I'll be pissed, same with FL, they need to do something before I can be scared of them at home.

If we do get to 6-0, does that change expectations? I really think 10 wins is doable again this year, and really, anything more than that is possible as well just looking at the schedule.

[Saul Good]

The more I look at it, I think we need to be 6-0 going into the GA game. I know we shouldn't expect too much this year, but which one of those first 6 should we be comfortable losing? If we lose to that SC team at home I'll be pissed, same with FL, they need to do something before I can be scared of them at home.

If we do get to 6-0, does that change expectations? I really think 10 wins is doable again this year, and really, anything more than that is possible as well just looking at the schedule.

Of course expectations change if we go 6-0, but I just don't see it. I've been watching replays of our past games, and Mauk is a real cause for concern. He's a guy who can make plays, but he's just as likely to make them for the other team than for us. Given the complete lack of anything resembling a proven WR on the team, I just don't see where our offensive production comes from.

[Dr. Gigglepants]

Of course expectations change if we go 6-0, but I just don't see it. I've been watching replays of our past games, and Mauk is a real cause for concern. He's a guy who can make plays, but he's just as likely to make them for the other team than for us. Given the complete lack of anything resembling a proven WR on the team, I just don't see where our offensive production comes from.

Had a reply typed up and then my laptop fucked itself.

Go Tigers!

Fuck kansas.

That is all.:)

[DJ's left nut]

Of course expectations change if we go 6-0, but I just don't see it. I've been watching replays of our past games, and Mauk is a real cause for concern. He's a guy who can make plays, but he's just as likely to make them for the other team than for us. Given the complete lack of anything resembling a proven WR on the team, I just don't see where our offensive production comes from.

And Mauk is who he is. He's just never going to be a precise passer and so our offense is going to be limited.

My overwhelming concern is Hansbrough. He's perpetually dinged up because he runs so hard. The depth behind him is just awfully untested and really completely unknown. Witter is probably going to be okay, but he seemed more like a placeholder than a true difference maker. I thought Steward would be that guy but honestly, we'd be better served expecting little from him after his injury. Have we heard anything at all from Abbington? He just got on campus, no? Walters blew his ACL and we don't know if Doherty and Williams are physically ready to contribute.

With Mauk being erratic and the WRs being untested, we're going to lean heavily on a veteran OL and Hansbrough. If he goes down, we're going to be hurting.

[Jerm]

How long does everyone believe it'll take before Lock is the starter? UGA game? Maybe the UK game.

I just see him taking over sooner rather than later...he's a 3 year guy and gotta get all we can out of him, by many reports he was the best QB during camp and I think Mauk is only starting because Pinkel wants to give him one shot to keep his job.

[BryanBusby]

I think Mauk will actually fare a little better this season and 6-0 isn't really a stretch with that schedule.

Lock is certainly the better QB and I think it's more of a case of them evaluating how much of a tirefire they got at WR and Oline before he plays.

[DJ's left nut]

Why the concern over the OL? That's likely to be the most stable unit on the squad.

[Saul Good]

Why the concern over the OL? That's likely to be the most stable unit on the squad.

I'm not concerned about our OL or our back 7.

[duncan_idaho]

Why the concern over the OL? That's likely to be the most stable unit on the squad.

I'm really excited that two redshirt sophomores have jumped ahead of Taylor Chappel on the DC, and into the starting lineup.

Chappel was moderately adequate last year but not great, so to see two younger players surpass him is encouraging.

[DJ's left nut]

I'm really excited that two redshirt sophomores have jumped ahead of Taylor Chappel on the DC, and into the starting lineup.

Chappel was moderately adequate last year but not great, so to see two younger players surpass him is encouraging.

Exactly.

We either have solid, established veterans or young kids that beat solid, established veterans all across the line.

I'd be stunned if the line isn't a strength this year. Like Saul said, the OL and the back 7 are the two areas I think we can really count on this year. I really think the DBs in particular will be the best that Pinkel has ever had. Kenya Dennis may make himself a 1st day pick (though likely 2nd day) and Aarion Penton just keeps getting better. John Gibson is almost certainly as good as Kip Edwards or Carl Gettis ever were and he struggles to get on the field a lot of days.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I think we see Lock tomorrow. That shirt is torched and it's time to play. I look forward to seeing him and the young D-Line develop.

[kepp]

I think we see Lock tomorrow. That shirt is torched and it's time to play. I look forward to seeing him and the young D-Line develop.

Hasn't Pinkel said he's going to get one series per game?

[DJ's left nut]

I think we see Lock tomorrow. That shirt is torched and it's time to play. I look forward to seeing him and the young D-Line develop.

Has it actually been pulled? I didn't think the redshirt was burned until he actually stepped on the field.

I don't think Lock is actually a 3 and out kind of talent, so I hate that we're burning the redshirt. I almost wonder if it isn't a sign that Pinkel's only looking at sticking around for another 2-3 years.

[Saul Good]

Has it actually been pulled? I didn't think the redshirt was burned until he actually stepped on the field.

I don't think Lock is actually a 3 and out kind of talent, so I hate that we're burning the redshirt. I almost wonder if it isn't a sign that Pinkel's only looking at sticking around for another 2-3 years.

If we had a great QB, I would agree. We don't, though. Red shirting Lock is a luxury we don't have. We just need to keep signing QBs to replace him.

[Mizzou_8541]

I think we see Lock tomorrow. That shirt is torched and it's time to play. I look forward to seeing him and the young D-Line develop.

Hasn't Pinkel said he's going to get one series per game?

Yes, I believe I saw that he will be getting a series or two a game like Mauk, Daniel and maybe Franklin...can't remember exactly on Franklin.

[Mizzou_8541]

And Mauk is who he is. He's just never going to be a precise passer and so our offense is going to be limited.

My overwhelming concern is Hansbrough. He's perpetually dinged up because he runs so hard. The depth behind him is just awfully untested and really completely unknown. Witter is probably going to be okay, but he seemed more like a placeholder than a true difference maker. I thought Steward would be that guy but honestly, we'd be better served expecting little from him after his injury. Have we heard anything at all from Abbington? He just got on campus, no? Walters blew his ACL and we don't know if Doherty and Williams are physically ready to contribute.

With Mauk being erratic and the WRs being untested, we're going to lean heavily on a veteran OL and Hansbrough. If he goes down, we're going to be hurting.

Abbington is on campus and practicing. I believe he got here very late in the process so he's pretty far behind.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Has it actually been pulled? I didn't think the redshirt was burned until he actually stepped on the field.

I don't think Lock is actually a 3 and out kind of talent, so I hate that we're burning the redshirt. I almost wonder if it isn't a sign that Pinkel's only looking at sticking around for another 2-3 years.Technically, the shirt hasn't been burned. In reality, the coaches plan to play him.

[beer bacon]

Hasn't Pinkel said he's going to get one series per game?

If the game's lopsided, Lock will get a lot more than one series tomorrow.

[KChiefs1]

Found this while looking for Chiefs vs Rams stuff.

http://m.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-s-quick-read-mizzou-vs-semo/article_d3599640-0b66-5a36-a0f1-6e1af3877c45.html?mobile_touch=true

[Stargazer]

Mizzou freshman looking to make the most impact this season: http://greatamericansportsnetwork.com/to-those-whove-shed-the-shirt-we-salute-you/

[KChiefs1]

http://youtu.be/yeuMYhgB8rI

[KChiefs1]

Is there going to be a game thread?

[WhawhaWhat]

Gotta throw that one away.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Mauk gonna Mauk twice in a row

[petegz28]

Yeah that was fucking stupid..."Matty"

[BryanBusby]

Yeah that was fucking stupid..."Matty"
That was like a "fuck it why not at worst it's a punt" thing.

Idk if Mauk is gonna survive all year tho

[petegz28]

2nd Q, 14-0 and you pull the QB?

[KCrockaholic]

2nd Q, 14-0 and you pull the QB?

Pinkel does this with all of his younger QB's to get them a little game time. Mauk will be back in.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Lock looks very good.

[petegz28]

someone tell this lady to STFU with trying to make Lock and Maulk rhyme

[petegz28]

Pinkel does this with all of his younger QB's to get them a little game time. Mauk will be back in.

In case you didn't know..I'm not what you call a big fan of Pinkel

[petegz28]

Lock looks very good.

Yeah except that last pass...luckily it went out of bounds

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Pinks is probably also trying to light a fire under Maty a little.

I like it.

Might as well figure out soon as possible if we got another viable option to play before we get into the SEC schedule.


Two competent QB's are better than one . . . . .

[petegz28]

they're kinda shredding our d at the moment...this drive started at the 5

[Pitt Gorilla]

Defense looking shitty.

[petegz28]

Defense looking shitty.

can't stop them on 3rd and long

[kepp]

They stopped trying to run up the middle and are going outside now. Need an adjustment.
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[petegz28]

held them to 3 but that is a minor victory....that drive started at the 5 and they had them 3rd and long more than once. They got shredded.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Are Mizzou TEs not allowed to catch? The ghost of Chase Coffman is disappoint.

[BryanBusby]

They should give Lock some more playing time imo

[kepp]

D is getting shredded by simple QB options.
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[kepp]

Don Cheadle got on the phone and had them change that call.
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[Pitt Gorilla]

Don Cheadle got on the phone and had them change that call.
Posted via Mobile DeviceWar Machine FTW!

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Where's all that RB talent Mizzou was supposed to be bringing in? Redshirting or 2016? That Ish guy is terrible.

[kepp]

Where's all that RB talent Mizzou was supposed to be bringing in? Redshirting or 2016? That Ish guy is terrible.
We have 30 yards rushing against a creampuff...definitely a concern.
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[KChiefs1]

Where's all that RB talent Mizzou was supposed to be bringing in? Redshirting or 2016? That Ish guy is terrible.


Without Hansbrough this team & season is fucked.

[BryanBusby]

This isn't a very inspiring performance.

[DeezNutz]

In case you didn't know..I'm not what you call a big fan of Pinkel

I understand. The dude is just barely deserving of the motherfucking statue that will be built of him outside the stadium when he retires.

Motherfuck. How about those Twins?

[petegz28]

I understand. The dude is just barely deserving of the mother****ing statue that will be built of him outside the stadium when he retires.

Mother****. How about those Twins?

Still not a big Pinkel fan.....

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Abbington, Doherty and Strong were the guys I was thinking of, though it appears Strong is actually 2016. Are the former in the plans this year?

[siberian khatru]

Still not a big Pinkel fan.....

Absolutely mind-boggling

[kepp]

Abbington, Doherty and Strong were the guys I was thinking of, though it appears Strong is actually 2016. Are the former in the plans this year?
Strong will be here next year. Abbington got to campus late and is 't up to speed yet from what I've heard. Don't know about Doherty.
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[kepp]

Now we're running it a bit.
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[Pitt Gorilla]

Lots of drops today. CATCH THE ****ING BALL.

[KChiefs1]

Still not a big Pinkel fan.....


Really?

[BryanBusby]

Damn that poor kid took a nasty hit to the knee.

[kepp]

Pitiful drive. Where is the blocking?
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[BryanBusby]

Tried to say this line may not be too great. I don't think they are utilizing their typical blocking system today, though.

[BryanBusby]

Also this announcing team makes me want to inject gasoline into my dickhole

[TribalElder]

Touchdown Lock

[BryanBusby]

There's definitely going to be a QB controversy at some point in the season.

[KCrockaholic]

If Maty plays this way over the next couple weeks, just call it done, and put Lock in there. Maty was not good at all.

[siberian khatru]

Abbington sighting

[petegz28]

Really?

never really have been. i mean i don't dislike him but i just don't think mu will ever win a big game with him an so far, we haven't.

i think what soured me on him was back in the days where we'd have the ball 1st & goal inside the 5 and turn it over on downs because we couldn't line up and power run for 3 yards in 4 downs

[Pitt Gorilla]

Meh.

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[|Zach|]

Still not a big Pinkel fan.....

Pete is a huge fan of all the good stuff Mizzou was doing before GP got here and pretty angry about all the shit GP has ruined since.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Pete is a huge fan of all the good stuff Mizzou was doing before GP got here and pretty angry about all the shit GP has ruined since.
Pete is an idiot. Period.

[duncan_idaho]

There's definitely going to be a QB controversy at some point in the season.

There already is one. The fact a freshman QB is not redshirting and is actually playing when the starter has another year after this one makes that obvious.

Tried to say this line may not be too great. I don't think they are utilizing their typical blocking system today, though.

I'm not panicking yet. Two new starters, injury to the C (who is the best lineman and the most involved in adjusting to blitzes), and a D that was filling the box. I do still like that Crawford and Abeln were good enough to force Chappel out of the starting lineup. I think that pays off over the course of the season.

Strong will be here next year. Abbington got to campus late and is 't up to speed yet from what I've heard. Don't know about Doherty.
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I think they plan to redshirt Doherty unless Witter and Steward continue to be unimpressive.

Steward still is getting healthy, and I'm not sure he's ever what he was before the hip injury. He looked tentative and stiff on Saturday.

Trevon Walters is also a factor... they expect him back in October from his torn ACL, but I'm not sure how much of an impact he can make right away.

Really need Hansbrough to stay healthy and have a big year.

[DJ's left nut]

My overwhelming concern is Hansbrough. He's perpetually dinged up because he runs so hard. The depth behind him is just awfully untested and really completely unknown. Witter is probably going to be okay, but he seemed more like a placeholder than a true difference maker. I thought Steward would be that guy but honestly, we'd be better served expecting little from him after his injury. Have we heard anything at all from Abbington? He just got on campus, no? Walters blew his ACL and we don't know if Doherty and Williams are physically ready to contribute.

With Mauk being erratic and the WRs being untested, we're going to lean heavily on a veteran OL and Hansbrough. If he goes down, we're going to be hurting.

Fuuuuuuuuuuu*******.

It took, what, 5 carries?

Don't expect him to be healthy. Ever. Sure, 'he would play next week if it were a different game', but he'll get hurt in that 'different game' as well. He's just always hurt. He'll always be hurt. Even when he's on the field, he's always nursing a ding here and there.

I love the guy, but we're putting way too much of this season on his shoulders. Morgan Steward's injury seems to have really messed up Pinkel's backfield. I can't imagine he ever really thought he had a true impact player in Ish.

[O.city]

The Drew Lock era needs to go ahead and begin, sooner than later.

[Saul Good]

Well, we're up to 19th in the coaches' poll. I don't expect much out of this season, so I'm going to take enjoyment wherever I find it. Being in the top 20 in a 'rebuilding year' is nice.

[Pepe Silvia]

I blame Ricker for this O-line. The talent isn't that bad, it's got to be the coaching. They've under performed since he got here last year.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Highly recommend this guy's vines from the game on Saturday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why Scherer called DT Terry Beckner a ghost. OG didn&#39;t even see him go by him. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MizzouMade?src=hash">#MizzouMade</a> <a href="https://t.co/1IX2UqEesn">https://t.co/1IX2UqEesn</a></p>&mdash; Joe (@JDec89) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDec89/status/640398296847151104">September 6, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Pitt Gorilla]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">#16 DE Marcell Frazier shedding two blocks to make the TFL. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MizzouMade?src=hash">#MizzouMade</a> <a href="https://t.co/hG0K3EpWLI">https://t.co/hG0K3EpWLI</a></p>&mdash; Joe (@JDec89) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDec89/status/640383601616535552">September 6, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Pitt Gorilla]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not blocking Nate Howard was a bad choice. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MizzouMade?src=hash">#MizzouMade</a> <a href="https://t.co/emqiIC71dw">https://t.co/emqiIC71dw</a></p>&mdash; Joe (@JDec89) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDec89/status/640380375827619841">September 6, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Pitt Gorilla]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FR DE Nate Howard&#39;s acceleration is ridiculous. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MizzouMade?src=hash">#MizzouMade</a> <a href="https://t.co/mOXG4D1ALn">https://t.co/mOXG4D1ALn</a></p>&mdash; Joe (@JDec89) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDec89/status/640377043490840576">September 6, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Pitt Gorilla]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FR DE Nate Howard with the TFL. Huge jump! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MizzouMade?src=hash">#MizzouMade</a> <a href="https://t.co/UmAQdG9bCO">https://t.co/UmAQdG9bCO</a></p>&mdash; Joe (@JDec89) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDec89/status/640376184434499584">September 6, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[KChiefs1]

Howard is a stud.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Beckner, Howard, and Moore all true-freshmen D-line. It sucks that Brantley is out for the year, but it's good to get the young studs some early work.

[Saul Good]

Howard reminds me so much of Golden, it's crazy.

[KChiefs1]

Beckner, Howard, and Moore all true-freshmen D-line. It sucks that Brantley is out for the year, but it's good to get the young studs some early work.


I expected 2 of those guys to redshirt this year. Crazy!

[GloryDayz]

Just saw the highlights of the SEMO game, and the injuries suck, but the team looked pretty solid. Drew looked pretty darn awesome too...

[Pepe Silvia]

Howard reminds me so much of Golden, it's crazy.

Same here.

[duncan_idaho]

Beckner, Howard, and Moore all true-freshmen D-line. It sucks that Brantley is out for the year, but it's good to get the young studs some early work.

Yeah, don't forget Jacobs, who also has shed the redshirt.

Lot of talent in the 14 and 15 classes, and a lot of it already in the two deep.

That's why they're being so aggressive with Lock. Received word today that the coaches' plan is for open competition between Lock and Mauk for QB1 in spring camp next year, though it would take a lot for Lock to take the spot before the season is over (Mauk injury, or getting eliminated from the SEC East race early, for example).

I suspected that was the case, but it was nice to get some confirmation on that.

[KChiefs1]

Here's my take on the recruiting class:

The Stars:

I think there are two players in this class with the potential to be really elite college players.


DT/DE Terry Beckner: The elite guy is the place to start, I think. Beckner has great burst and quickness for his size, and I think he's going to be a great DT once he gets some high level instruction from Coach Kul. Honesty, hearing him talk yesterday, I think Missouri led for a long, long time. And all the buzz about the blue blood schools was just because people 1) LIstened to the wrong guy (Again... listen to Darren Sunkett on ESTL kids, Steve Wiltfong); 2) disbelief that he might choose Mizzou over the blue bloods. I expect him to be part of the rotation on the DL as a true freshman.

I think Beckner, if he works hard (a question for some with him), has the ability to be a huge impact player/line anchor. And future 1st round NFL pick, of course...

QB Drew Lock: I’m really high on this kid. I think he’s going to be Pinkel’s best QB (yes, that includes Chase Daniel). He doesn’t have quite the physical talent that Blaine Gabbert did, but he’s got a lot more moxy and playmaking ability when things start going badly. Some of that “gamer” factor that made Daniel so good. And he’s a good enough athlete that if he played hoops full time, he’d be Missouri’s best recruit there, too (he’d be a top 100-150 type, I think). Even as it is, he plays on a better AAU team than any currently committed basketball recruit for Mizzou…


The WRs

Help is needed in 2015, and this group offers a nice combination of size, speed, upside and Day 1 readiness.


WR Emmanuel Hall: Someone I’ve been excited about for a while. He’s got nice speed and nice size and seems pretty polished. He’s got a great shot to play from Day 1, and Missouri needs the help. I think he is the best bet from the freshmen to crack the 2015 rotation.

WR Justin Smith: Might have the most upside of any of the WRs Missouri has added in this class. He’s 6-7/6-8 and is also a 3-star basketball recruit. He hasn’t been playing football long, but has deceptive speed due to his stride, good ball skills and leaping ability, and is very strong for his size (banging inside in hoops, I guess). He might need a redshirt, but I could see him being a major weapon down the road.

WR Johnathan Johnson: Tenn. kid who reportedly had a Tenn. offer. He reminds me a lot of Marcus Murphy in the open field, though he’s going to play WR rather than RB. I think he’s got a great shot to be the kickoff/punt guy right away. Really dynamic in the return game. He also should be a potential weapon on jet sweeps.

WR Richaud Floyd: Could also force early PT. He’s a speed/slot type who was a little underrated, IMO, because he played HS QB.

WR Ronnell Perkins: St. Louis athlete with big upside, probably needs a redshirt. Has the size/ball skills/speed potential to be a quality outside receiver. Also could be flipped to defense based on need.


The RBs
Really deep group with a lot of versatility. Starting to see Mizzou recruit some bigger backs for the offense.

RB Nate Strong: Highly rated East St. Louis guy is already enrolled in JUCO and apparently plans to graduate and be ready to enroll at Mizzou in January 2016. He’s big, strong, and fast. Might also end up at LB.

RB/ATH Marquise Doherty. I’m not sold on him staying at RB, and Doherty also is a risk to get drafted high enough in the MLB draft to go that route. His size is an asset at RB or as a very athletic safety. High quality athlete.

RB Chase Abbington: JUCO RB who will have 3 years to play 3 (he redshirted at JUCO to save a year of eligibility). He’s also a bigger RB and has the ball skills to be a receiving option. Good, not great speed. Style-wise, I think he’s similar to Tennessee’s Jalen Hurd.

RB Ryan Williams: Lee’s Summit West product was one of the earliest commits in this class. He’s the only RB in this class who fits Mizzzou’s traditional small/quick RB template. Doesn’t have great top end speed, but is quick and makes good, one-read cuts.


DLINE ZOU

This is the team's bread and butter on D. I think this is the best group Missouri has recruited in a single class. Counting Beckner, Missouri signed 5 DL who ALL have the potential to be high-round NFL picks.

DE Marcell Frazier: JUCO DE who also has 3 to play 3. They made him a priority when Ray going to the NFL early became obvious. Has a blend of size and speed at 6-4, 265. Should jump right into the rotation at DE and could challenge for a starting spot.

DE Nate Howard: Destined for a redshirt and will probably be physically transformed by the time we see him as a redshirt freshmen. Like Kony Ealy, Marcus Loud and Aldon Smith, he’s a tall, lean athlete with a lot of room for good weight and strength addition. Huge upside.

DE Josh Moore: Apparently, there’s still a chance he qualifies, but I bet he redshirts regardless. They’re going to start him at DE, but Kul is raving about his athleticism. Says he could play just about anywhere on D (DE, DT, LB, even S).

DT Tyrell Jacobs: Listed as a DE but will play DT in college. Former Oklahoma commitment, will redshirt, work on adding good weight, and likely be a factor as a redshirt freshman. Really like his quickness and burst.



LBs
Just two in this class, but I really like the size, athleticism and blend of readiness and long-term upside here.

LB Terez Hall: Apparently, Georgia made a late push. Hall is an athletic kid who chose Mizzou over Nebraska, Georgia, and Wisconsin. He could play right away as a special teams contributor and has legit NFL potential.

OLB Franklin Agbasimere is a tremendous story. Nigerian kid who has been in the states two years and is incredibly raw. He’s a freak athlete, though. Just dripping with NFL potential. I think he needs a redshirt, but the sky is the limit with good coaching (he has the physical skills to be Missouri’s best LB since Sean Weatherspoon).



OL
Helping make sure Taylor Chappell is not the best option at LT in 2015. They took two JUCO Ts in this class, which means they're looking for some immediate help next year.

OT Malik Cuellar: Will have an opportunity to start right away at LT. Good size and athleticism on this JUCO, who also has three years of eligibility left. Enrolled in Dec. and will participate in Spring practice.

OT Tyler Howell: Another JUCO, Howell is massive (6-9). Needs to improve his flexibility and knee bend, but he has the potential to be a mauler. I could see them lining him up on the right side in Year 1 and letting him team with McGovern and Boehm to make that a very strong run side for Mizzou in 2015.

OG AJ Harris: Might skip the redshirt and get into the two deep at G right away. Harris is strong and really holds up well in the phone booth. Nice insurance if existing options don’t progress as needed/wanted.

OT Tanner Owen: Owen is already enrolled and is kind of a wild card. He has the look of those small-town Missouri OL, who spend 2-3 years in the program before being really strong as juniors and seniors. Also enrolled early.


The Athletes (can help in multiple areas)

ATH Cam Hilton. St. Louis kid who will play defense, from the way it sounds. Good athlete with the size to play S or CB. Probably a safety

ATH TJ Warren. Warren is going to play corner, from the way it sounds right now. I think he’s got an excellent shot to be the next CB who forces his way into the rotation as a freshman. Really dynamic athlete.



A few surprised even you!

[Pitt Gorilla]

Yeah, don't forget Jacobs, who also has shed the redshirt.

Lot of talent in the 14 and 15 classes, and a lot of it already in the two deep.

That's why they're being so aggressive with Lock. Received word today that the coaches' plan is for open competition between Lock and Mauk for QB1 in spring camp next year, though it would take a lot for Lock to take the spot before the season is over (Mauk injury, or getting eliminated from the SEC East race early, for example).

I suspected that was the case, but it was nice to get some confirmation on that.I'll never understand why some folks were intent on ****ting on the 14 and 15 classes.

Also, any info on the Mauk transfer rumor? I'll hang up and listen.

[duncan_idaho]

A few surprised even you!

Biggest surprises are the DL guys I thought would redshirt for sure (Howard, Jacobs, Moore) playing right away. Think the injuries/defections factored in there (Marcus Loud and Brantley).

Cam Hilton is also a huge surprise. He was an early commit, as I recall, and didn't get much buzz. But busting into a two deep at safety that includes several experienced guys (Simon, Sherrils) and high upside guys with more experience (Tavon Ross, Thomas Wilson) is impressive.

[GloryDayz]

Let me guess, the Mizzou away game won't be shown on TV in the KC area? I can't find it on Time Warner's listings.

[KChiefs1]

Let me guess, the Mizzou away game won't be shown on TV in the KC area? I can't find it on Time Warner's listings.


Only on ESPN3.

http://www.ehow.com/how_8427950_watch-espn-internet.html

[GloryDayz]

Only on ESPN3.

http://www.ehow.com/how_8427950_watch-espn-internet.html

Thanks. Now that you got me thinking, I'm also able to get it on the Amazon Fire Stick via the ESPN App they have. So it'll be on the TV (without me having to use the 'ol long HDMI cable...).

Woot. Rep to you fine Sir..

[GloryDayz]

OK, got ESPN3 setup on the Fire Stick, and the guide doesn't show the Mizzou game at 6:00. At least not yet.. If they don't carry this game in KC, I'm going to be pissed off!

[GloryDayz]

Only on ESPN3.

http://www.ehow.com/how_8427950_watch-espn-internet.html

Oddly, this is how I had to do it. The motherfucking ESPN App on the Fire Stick, that has ESPN3 stuff on it (I had like 10 ESPN3 games to pick from at 6:00pm), but none of them was the MIZZOU game.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????

[kepp]

I'm watching using watchespn on a roku using slingtv as my provider. On a side note...Tennessee is looking pretty good.
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[dlphg9]

Mary Mauk just isn't a very good qb

[Saul Good]

Great catch. Too bad we couldn't catch the TD pass that hit us in the hands.

[petegz28]

Maulk gonna Maulk

[kepp]

I just don't see us being able to score on real defenses that we're going to be playing in conference play.
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[kepp]

Arkansas loses to Toledo...
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[petegz28]

we'll be lucky to make the Toilet Bowl this season...

[KChiefs1]

Arkansas loses to Toledo...
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Damn

[|Zach|]

we'll be lucky to make the Toilet Bowl this season...

Pete raises the white flag on September 12th.

Don't ever change! ROFL

[KChiefs1]

we'll be lucky to make the Toilet Bowl this season...


Is that a New Year's Day bowl?

[petegz28]

Pete raises the white flag on September 12th.

Don't ever change! ROFL

Dude we have nothing to speak of at QB and 1 good RB....just not sure we have the talent this year....

[kepp]

Was he not face guarding? Thats automatic PI, no?
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[|Zach|]

Dude we have nothing to speak of at QB and 1 good RB....just not sure we have the talent this year....

Chicken little.

[kepp]

Our D is atrocious.
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[petegz28]

that's a catch

[GloryDayz]

Can Lock play D?