***Official Car and Gearhead Thread***

[19now11]

my hunting truck is an 85 4runner. it took me 5 months but i managed to replace the 22re th a 3.4 v6 out of a tacoma. thing will go anywhere.http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/ToR-Redneck/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_175741_zpsf40f3dcb.jpg (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/ToR-Redneck/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_175741_zpsf40f3dcb.jpg.html)

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/ToR-Redneck/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_200442_zps3528cdc6.jpg (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/ToR-Redneck/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_200442_zps3528cdc6.jpg.html)

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/ToR-Redneck/20150219_175932_zpsyad0h3gh.jpg (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/ToR-Redneck/media/20150219_175932_zpsyad0h3gh.jpg.html)

[KCUnited]

This has been parked out front of my building for 4 days now.

Save some pussy for the rest of us, hoss.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b539/KCUnited1/ecbada3f-82fa-4026-8348-6c304b158457_zps13b2ase6.jpg

[Dayze]

This has been parked out front of my building for 4 days now.

Save some pussy for the rest of us, hoss.



LMAO

[MIAdragon]

my hunting truck is an 85 4runner. it took me 5 months but i managed to replace the 22re th a 3.4 v6 out of a tacoma. thing will go anywhere.http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/ToR-Redneck/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_175741_zpsf40f3dcb.jpg (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/ToR-Redneck/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_175741_zpsf40f3dcb.jpg.html)

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/ToR-Redneck/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_200442_zps3528cdc6.jpg (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/ToR-Redneck/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141007_200442_zps3528cdc6.jpg.html)

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv222/ToR-Redneck/20150219_175932_zpsyad0h3gh.jpg (http://s686.photobucket.com/user/ToR-Redneck/media/20150219_175932_zpsyad0h3gh.jpg.html)


Looks good

[Baby Lee]

Looks good

Redneck landaulet?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9DctW21RfSA/WJjTUEV89dI/AAAAAAAAwWU/0dyXJqkiTgwlmqTsHnbfcvpwxDhXwZRHgCLcB/s1600/open.jpg

[DJ's left nut]

Clay getting worked up about his shitty car choice.

This is a great day for CP.

I've got no problem with Jeeps. But the Jeep Liberty is a total turd. Were you attempting to purchase one of the most unreliable vehicles you could?

Eh, at least is isn't a Compass or a Patriot.

The Liberty was a mediocre vehicle but next to nothing competes with the Compass or the Patriot. That was Jeep's answer to the Neon. Take an awful idea and then execute it poorly and you end up with the Jeep Compass.

[Hammock Parties]

good thing I never saw one of these, because I'd love to own a car that looks like a Goomba

http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/267404/jeep-compass-photo-200243-s-450x274.jpg

[Indian Chief]

Eh, at least is isn't a Compass or a Patriot.

The Liberty was a mediocre vehicle but next to nothing competes with the Compass or the Patriot. That was Jeep's answer to the Neon. Take an awful idea and then execute it poorly and you end up with the Jeep Compass.

Are you sure about that? Didn't they already make the Neon? (As in Dodge/Chrysler.) I'm just genuinely curious if that's the case; you may be right.

[DJ's left nut]

Are you sure about that? Didn't they already make the Neon? (As in Dodge/Chrysler.) I'm just genuinely curious if that's the case; you may be right.

I don't mean literally speaking.

The Neon was an attempt by Chrysler to get into the compact car market and compete with actual decent vehicles like the Civic. They did it with cut-rate parts and poor engineering.

Chrysler (via Jeep) was attempting to get into the small crossover segment with the Compass and took the same route - cut-rate parts and a shitty design to yield an absolutely awful vehicle.

The new compass might not be a piece of shit; early returns are promising. But that first gen was just hot garbage. The back end would actually come off the ground under heavy braking, it was just that bad.

[Chiefs316]

I just finished putting one tons under it and a set of beadlock wheels. Got a couple things left to complete the axle install. Mounting hydraulic assist steering and rear shock mounts. Mounting a winch. Removing the hard top and making a soft roof. Planning on being ready for a Memorial weekend wheeling trip.

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[SAUTO]

Now that is bad ass

[lewdog]

Getting back to questions that are "as gay as Clay."


Is there still a recommendation on changing engine oil based on length of time passed. My wife's Civic goes 5-6k before the oil life reading dips below 30%, which is when we change it. This happens about twice per year as she drives about 12k miles. If I start driving her car and only put about 6k miles on it for the year (shorter commute), can I go a full year without changing the oil or should I still do it every 6 months?


Also, looking at purchasing a Mazda CX-9. The 2.5 L, 4 cylinder turbo has quite a bit more getup than I expected from a full size SUV. Much more so than the V6 offered on prior year models and obviously the V6's have worse gas mileage as well. I figured there would be quite a turbo lag but it sure doesn't feel like it to me. I read that Mazda does the following to combat turbo lag.

To combat turbo lag, the engine has what Mazda calls the Dynamic Pressure Turbo System that combines the advantages of variable-vane and twin-scroll turbocharger technologies in one small part. There are three butterfly valves positioned in the exhaust manifold at the entrance to the turbocharger. Below 1620 rpm, these valves are closed, forcing exhaust gases through restricted paths, thereby raising the pulsation energy of the exhaust impacting the turbine wheel (like a thumb over a water hose). At 1620 rpm, when the exhaust volume is large enough, the valves open, and the turbo operates normally.

[SAUTO]

Sounds like something that's gonna break. But I haven't done much reading on it.

[lewdog]

Sounds like something that's gonna break. But I haven't Dunne much reading on it.

ROFL

I knew you'd say that. Looks like the 7 year warranty covers most things like that. Mazda reliability has been pretty good recently. Never know though.

[lewdog]

Sauto, you missed my first question. Thank you sir.

Is there still a recommendation on changing engine oil based on length of time passed. My wife's Civic goes 5-6k before the oil life reading dips below 30%, which is when we change it. This happens about twice per year as she drives about 12k miles. If I start driving her car and only put about 6k miles on it for the year (shorter commute), can I go a full year without changing the oil or should I still do it every 6 months?

[SAUTO]

Sauto, you missed my first question. Thank you sir.

Is there still a recommendation on changing engine oil based on length of time passed. My wife's Civic goes 5-6k before the oil life reading dips below 30%, which is when we change it. This happens about twice per year as she drives about 12k miles. If I start driving her car and only put about 6k miles on it for the year (shorter commute), can I go a full year without changing the oil or should I still do it every 6 months?
Personally I would do it every six months, I would worry about some condensation build up if nothing else.

[lewdog]

Personally I would do it every six months, I would worry about some condensation build up if nothing else.

Even in AZ and with me still driving it 5x per week, not it sitting? What if I use full synthetic?

[SAUTO]

And sorry I missed it the first time lew.

And on the Mazda I would be worried about the extra pressure on the exhaust causing burnt valves, burnt butterfly valves, burnt pistons. Time will tell though. That's one I wouldn't wanna get in on the ground floor with, let them iron out the kinks on someone else's dime.

[SAUTO]

Even in AZ and with me still driving it 5x per week, not it sitting?

The motor heating and cooling will naturally cause condensation, many oil caps are covered with it on engines that are changed more often than that.

[lewdog]

And sorry I missed it the first time lew.

And on the Mazda I would be worried and the extra pressure on the exhaust causing burnt valves, burnt butterfly valves, burnt pistons. Time will tell though. That's one I wouldn't wanna get in on the ground floor with, let them iron out the kinks on someone else's dime.

Only caveat is that it's a certified used and offers a 7 year/100k mile power train warranty. Not sure what exactly the "powertrain" covers? I'm always leery of warranties and never had any on the cars I've owned.

This is what it says. "7-Year/100,000-Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty†
Flywheel to freeze plug, thermostat to turbocharger, cylinder block to constant velocity joints, our 7-Year/100,000-Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty has you covered.

Zero Deductible on Covered Repairs
In the rare event that a covered part needs to be repaired or replaced, your total out-of-pocket cost
will be zero at Mazda Dealers throughout the United States."

[SAUTO]

Only caveat is that it's a certified used and offers a 7 year/100k mile power train warranty. Not sure what exactly the "powertrain" covers?

This is what it says. "7-Year/100,000-Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty†
Flywheel to freeze plug, thermostat to turbocharger, cylinder block to constant velocity joints, our 7-Year/100,000-Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty has you covered.

Zero Deductible on Covered Repairs
In the rare event that a covered part needs to be repaired or replaced, your total out-of-pocket cost
will be zero at Mazda Dealers throughout the United States." that's it's only saving grace, but make sure if it breaks they are giving you a car to drive.

[SAUTO]

I would also like to see what that cross means

[lewdog]

that's it's only saving grace, but make sure if it breaks they are giving you a car to drive.

I'll be sure to ask that question. To me, this powertrain warranty sounds like it covers the main components of the engine and what you would be concerned about right? I've heard Mazda has one of the best warranties in the business, which is why we are buying used as opposed to new, as the warranty of a used car is actually better.

I would also like to see what that cross means

†Coverage begins from the original retail sales date
and covers 7 years/100,000 miles, whichever comes first.

[SAUTO]

I'll be sure to ask that question. To me, this powertrain warranty sounds like it covers the main components of the engine and what you would be concerned about right? I've heard Mazda has one of the best warranties in the business, which is why we are buying used as opposed to new, as the warranty of a used car is actually better.



†Coverage begins from the original retail sales date
and covers 7 years/100,000 miles, whichever comes first.
Looks like you should be good, make sure they give you a loaner though.

[lewdog]

Looks like you should be good, make sure they give you a loaner though.

Sounds good.

Wife is pretty set on this car as long as everything checks out tomorrow when we drive and see it.

Thanks for your help.

[SAUTO]

Only other thought is potential loss of resale money if they end up being shit.



:D

[SAUTO]

I would also ask to look at all the records, warranty issues included, on the vehicle since its service date.

[lewdog]

Only other thought is potential loss of resale money if they end up being shit.



:D

ROFL

Yes thanks. Good thing there's a sucker born every minute that I could sell a lemon to! :D

But I hope it's not. Both our cars are 10+ years old right now. We buy and drive. We plan to keep this for a solid 10 years barring it being total shit.

[lewdog]

I would also ask to look at all the records, warranty issues included, on the vehicle since its service date.

Found this.

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DFI_0&vin=JM3TCACY4G0102575&source=BUP

[SAUTO]

I didn't understand what happened on the 30, 30 then the 31st.


Someone bought it and backed out? It was sold to the dealership?

[lewdog]

I didn't understand what happened on the 30, 30 then the 31st.


Someone bought it and backed out? It was sold to the dealership?

That confused me too. I was hoping you'd know. I think the dealer bought it, personally. These seems to be hard to find used.

[Marcellus]

Goddamn I hate cars sometimes.

Just finished installing new radiator and wiring the new fans with a 60amp mega fuse and 2 30 amp relays.

Went to test it and fans dont come on, start checking and double checking shit and making sure its wired right and nothing. You can hear the relays click on but fans dont move.

I break out the meter and guess what, the damn fans are getting power and NEITHER of them work. What the hell are the odds of that?

I didn't test fire the fans prior to installing assuming there couldn't be an issue. Damn I am irritated right now. I hope the company I bought the set up from will exchange them.

[SAUTO]

Surely you double checked the ground?

[Marcellus]

Surely you double checked the ground?

Oh yea, I even ran some direct wires and got jack shit. Very very odd.

[SAUTO]

Oh yea, I even ran some direct wires and got jack shit. Very very odd.

When you hook up just a power do you get 12v on the ground or is it just dead still?

[SAUTO]

Not questioning or doubting you Marcellus just thinking of things that's happened to me before lol

[hometeam]

I didn't understand what happened on the 30, 30 then the 31st.


Someone bought it and backed out? It was sold to the dealership?

Yea, some sort of paperwork screw up

[BryanBusby]

Getting back to questions that are "as gay as Clay."


Is there still a recommendation on changing engine oil based on length of time passed. My wife's Civic goes 5-6k before the oil life reading dips below 30%, which is when we change it. This happens about twice per year as she drives about 12k miles. If I start driving her car and only put about 6k miles on it for the year (shorter commute), can I go a full year without changing the oil or should I still do it every 6 months?


Also, looking at purchasing a Mazda CX-9. The 2.5 L, 4 cylinder turbo has quite a bit more getup than I expected from a full size SUV. Much more so than the V6 offered on prior year models and obviously the V6's have worse gas mileage as well. I figured there would be quite a turbo lag but it sure doesn't feel like it to me. I read that Mazda does the following to combat turbo lag.
There's still a turbo lag, depending on the situation. I have a 2016 CX-5.

[bigjosh]

Finally had the weather break long enough to start throwing some parts on this thing. Next up is a catless downpipe, coilovers, new endlinks, and polyurethane motor mounts.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/708556fb500beabf18d6ff54f5268a49.jpg

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

[hometeam]

Finally had the weather break long enough to start throwing some parts on this thing. Next up is a catless downpipe, coilovers, new endlinks, and polyurethane motor mounts.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/708556fb500beabf18d6ff54f5268a49.jpg

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

I had pretty nasty subie 6 years ago or so, I may have even posted about it in this thread.

Really liked that car, wish I still had it plus the TA.

[lewdog]

Going to order a battery charger for the Mustang since it will be sitting quite a bit more than it used to. Anything I need to know about these things? I would say at most the car will sit 1-2 months at a time. I just know how killer the Phoenix heat is on car batteries regardless of sitting or being used.

Was looking at going with something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006G14FK8/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A291WW88PVI43Q

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Here's the one I've always used https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000CITK8S/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491778923&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=battery+tender
Works great.

[lewdog]

Here's the one I've always used https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000CITK8S/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491778923&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=battery+tender
Works great.

Cheaper than the one I was looking at! No problems with it?

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Cheaper than the one I was looking at! No problems with it?

No issues. I've used it on all my performance cars that stay parked in the garage during our Iowa winters.

[Baby Lee]

Going to order a battery charger for the Mustang since it will be sitting quite a bit more than it used to. Anything I need to know about these things? I would say at most the car will sit 1-2 months at a time. I just know how killer the Phoenix heat is on car batteries regardless of sitting or being used.

Was looking at going with something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006G14FK8/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A291WW88PVI43Q

This is an area where cheap won't hurt none. Every family member I know has one in the glove compartment or on their lawn mower, and no one's had any problem using it when the need arose.

http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float-charger-42292.html

It's stone simple tech, to maintain a modicum of charge in a bulletproof receptacle. We're not talking about resurrecting a dead battery here.

To insist on fancier [or simply more expensive] is like insisting on a pair of salad tongs from Williams Sonoma.

[lewdog]

To insist on fancier [or simply more expensive] is like insisting on a pair of salad tongs from Williams Sonoma.

FMB loves those salad tongs you dick!!!

[2112]

1972 chevelle ss convertible with cowl induction. The hood moves when you rev this fucker up. Not mine, just keeping it in my garage temporarily for a friend. Got to blast it around the neighborhood yesterday though.

[2112]

1972 chevelle ss convertible with cowl induction. The hood moves when you rev this ****er up. Not mine, just keeping it in my garage temporarily for a friend. Got to blast it around the neighborhood yesterday though.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2qusv4g.jpg

[bigjosh]

I had pretty nasty subie 6 years ago or so, I may have even posted about it in this thread.

Really liked that car, wish I still had it plus the TA.
Yeah man. I love this car. I got a ton of miles on it already. I have to get the monte carlo going soon so i can start saving some miles on the subaru.

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[Marcellus]

http://i67.tinypic.com/2qusv4g.jpg

That's a 71' not a 72' or else it has the wrong turn signal lights in it. :D

Sweet car.

[Marcellus]

When you hook up just a power do you get 12v on the ground or is it just dead still?

Figured it out, I had 12V coming from the power source I was using but basically not enough amperage to get them to start.

When I ran a direct jumper I used the same power source (bypassing relays and fuse etc...) which is a junction block between my alternator and starter post. Basically the only direct power source in the front of my car.

Haven't figured out why yet but something about being connected to the alternator on the one end of the wire was robbing the amperage from that line. I am not an electrician so I cant figure that one out.

I had to run a new wire from my battery (in the trunk) for the power supply. Having the battery in the trunk has been a serious pain in the ass at times.

It likely would have worked with the alternator running but obviously I want to be able to run the fans sometimes when the car isn't running.

Anyway fan issue resolved. Holy bajeesus.

[SAUTO]

Figured it out, I had 12V coming from the power source I was using but basically not enough amperage to get them to start.

When I ran a direct jumper I used the same power source (bypassing relays and fuse etc...) which is a junction block between my alternator and starter post. Basically the only direct power source in the front of my car.

Haven't figured out why yet but something about being connected to the alternator on the one end of the wire was robbing the amperage from that line. I am not an electrician so I cant figure that one out.

I had to run a new wire from my battery (in the trunk) for the power supply. Having the battery in the trunk has been a serious pain in the ass at times.

It likely would have worked with the alternator running but obviously I want to be able to run the fans sometimes when the car isn't running.

Anyway fan issue resolved. Holy bajeesus.
cars suck sometimes

[Marcellus]

http://www.speedsociety.com/the-2018-dodge-demon-has-been-revealed-the-stats-are-unreal/

Good God almighty read the official specs on the Demon. 9.6sec quarter mile out of the box. 0-60 in 2.3seconds, pulls the front wheels.




Via Dodge:

Fastest quarter-mile car in the world; banned by the NHRA

840 horsepower and 770 pounds-feet of torque from supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI® Demon V-8 engine makes Dodge Challenger SRT Demon the most-powerful muscle car ever
Highest horsepower V-8 production car engine ever produced
First-ever front-wheel lift in production car (2.92 feet) as certified by Guinness World Records
World’s fastest quarter-mile production car with an elapsed time (ET) of 9.65 seconds and 140 miles per hour (mph) as certified by National Hot Rod Association (NHRA)
Challenger SRT Demon is too fast for the drag strip – officially banned by NHRA
World’s fastest 0-60 production car: 2.3 seconds
0-30 miles per hour: 1.0 second
Highest g-force acceleration of any production car: 1.8 g
Air-Grabber™ induction system includes the largest functional hood scoop (45.2 square inches) of any production car
Significant upgrades to create the Demon engine include:
Larger 2.7-liter per rev supercharger; increased boost pressure to 14.5 psi
Higher rpm limit of 6,500
First-ever factory-production car with innovative SRT Power Chiller™ liquid-to-air intercooler chiller system
First factory-production car with After-Run Chiller that keeps cooling the supercharger/charge air cooler after the engine is shut off
First-ever, factory-production car designed to run on 100+ high-octane unleaded fuel or 91 octane on demand
First-ever, factory-production car with TransBrake for more powerful and quicker launches
First-ever, factory-production drag car with Torque Reserve, to deliver increased levels of power and torque at launch
First-ever, factory-production car with front passenger seat delete
Exclusive, serialized Demon Crate offers components that fully unleash the car’s potential at the drag strip
Challenger SRT Demon is covered by FCA US LLC factory warranty, including three-year/36,000-mile limited vehicle warranty and five-year/60,000-mile limited powertrain coverage
Production of limited-edition single model year (3,000 United States/300 Canada) Challenger SRT Demon begins later this summer; deliveries to Dodge//SRT dealers to begin this fall
All customers who buy the new 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon receive one full-day session at Bob Bondurant School of High-performance Driving
Dodge has named Hagerty as its official insurance provider of the Dodge Challenger SRT Demon


Live reveal in 26 minutes here.....

https://youtu.be/S904YbiCebs

[Marcellus]

cars suck sometimes

Drove the shit out of it last night with no issues. Damn thing never got over 182 degrees.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Yeah, the Demon is nuts!!

[Marcellus]

Yeah, the Demon is nuts!!

Whats crazy is you couldn't take it to the track and run it without putting a cage in it, that's why the NHRA is banning it.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Whats crazy is you couldn't take it to the track and run it without putting a cage in it, that's why the NHRA is banning it.

Oh, damn!

[Marcellus]

Oh, damn!

Heh, its more than just a cage required.

9.99 1/4-mile (6.39 1/8-mile)/ 135 mph or quicker:

-Roll cage is required on all vehicles at 9.99 and quicker or any vehicle running 135 mph or faster (regardless of e.t.). The roll cage must be constructed of minimum 1 5/8 o.d.x .118 mild steel tubing, or 1 5/8 x .083 chrome moly tubing. Roll cage must also be certified by NHRA every 3 years, and have a serialized sticker affixed prior to participation. The cage must be padded anywhere the driver's helmet may contact it while in the driving position. This style of cage is good til 8.50 1/4-mile times, then a funny car style cage is required.
See diagram below.

-Window net required (can be ribbon or mesh, no altering allowed unless done by manufacturer. No expiration date per 2008 NHRA rule book, but some have said 2 years on expiration/re-cert. Check with your local track or division).

-NHRA competition driver's license required, done by car designation (dragster, door car, etc). A physical, 2 NHRA licensed drivers to witness/sign your forms and minimum 6 runs are required.

-Flexplate SFI 29.1 and shield SFI 30.1 required (no expiration dates listed, but I believe the shield is 5 years)

-Protective Clothing (SFI jacket and pants with a 3.2A/5 rating, gloves and neck collar, no expiration date)

-Battery cutoff (regardless or whether battery is still up front or relocated to rear of vehicle)

-A full-face helmet is required with a minimum Snell K98 or M2000/SA2000 rating. Helmets last 12 years from their rating date (example a Snell 2005 would be good until 2017). Shield is permitted but not required. This rule posting is as it applies to cars like ours (closed body type). For open cars a different helmet ruling is required.

-A engine diaper is required at NHRA national and divisional races, local races vary, check with your division or track.

[hometeam]

Got the TA up and driving again at the end of last week. FINALLY converter is locking up, car is driving, everything good to go. Going to start the final NA tuning on it tonight and for the love of GOD I am going to pray nothing else breaks for a few months.

On the other hand, making some progress on the bobber~

http://i.imgur.com/1XQQS6Y.jpg

[Marcellus]

Got the TA up and driving again at the end of last week. FINALLY converter is locking up, car is driving, everything good to go. Going to start the final NA tuning on it tonight and for the love of GOD I am going to pray nothing else breaks for a few months.

On the other hand, making some progress on the bobber~

http://i.imgur.com/1XQQS6Y.jpg

Good news, just got mine rolling again as well.

That bobber is going to be very cool.

[lewdog]

Got new car insurance for the Mustang from Grundy under their "collector car" policy. $250 for the year with the car value at $18k. Couldn't believe how reasonable it was, not to mention how cheap my 2 year AZ registration was for a car now 13 years old.

[Buzz]

The wife drives a 2002 Chevy Blazer, it's developed a slow antifreeze leak coming from the intake manifold gasket, as best I can tell. I dumped a bottle of "Bar's Leaks" block seal in and ran it for 15 min as directed. Anyone have any luck using this stuff? Leaks about a half gallon every month but she doesn't drive much, maybe 20 miles a week.

[Baby Lee]

The wife drives a 2002 Chevy Blazer, it's developed a slow antifreeze leak coming from the intake manifold gasket, as best I can tell. I dumped a bottle of "Bar's Leaks" block seal in and ran it for 15 min as directed. Anyone have any luck using this stuff? Leaks about a half gallon every month but she doesn't drive much, maybe 20 miles a week.

You pose this question in the antifreeze capital of the world?

More seriously, stop leak products are best for pinhole leaks in things like the radiator fins. It's not going to end a gasket leak. The chemistry that bonds the stop leak to pinhole leaks isn't even compatible with the material that's failing in the gasket [like putting a band-aid on a broken bone. Band-aids fix skin abrasions]. You're gonna want to replace that.

[SAUTO]

The wife drives a 2002 Chevy Blazer, it's developed a slow antifreeze leak coming from the intake manifold gasket, as best I can tell. I dumped a bottle of "Bar's Leaks" block seal in and ran it for 15 min as directed. Anyone have any luck using this stuff? Leaks about a half gallon every month but she doesn't drive much, maybe 20 miles a week. no. Fix it. Seriously.
And use the problem solver gaskets.

If it's coming out on that motor it's also going in most likely. It will tank the bearings quickly.

[Buzz]

Will do, thanks.

[SAUTO]

Use fel pro problem solver aluminium/rubber gaskets also. Don't use plastic ones again.

I've probably done that job (between the 4.3 and 5.7) hundreds of times.

[Buzz]

Use fel pro problem solver aluminium/rubber gaskets also. Don't use plastic ones again.

I've probably done that job (between the 4.3 and 5.7) hundreds of times.



So I just checked the oil and it's not milky, should I try changing the oil and see what happens or bite the bullet?

[SAUTO]

So I just checked the oil and it's not milky, should I try changing the oil and see what happens or bite the bullet?

What color is the antifreeze?

[Buzz]

I'm pretty sure your going to say bite the bullet, not sure I want to tackle this project right now. Looks like the repair pal cost to take it somewhere is $400 to $650, what do you charge?

[Buzz]

What color is the antifreeze?


Greenish antifreeze color.

[SAUTO]

Greenish antifreeze color.

It doesn't take much to ruin some bearings.

I'm around 450. With the expensive gaskets.

[SAUTO]

I would just get it changed.

[lewdog]

A difference insurance question here and Sauto price estimate if you can. What's the rough cost to replace a car window if it's shattered?

I just figured out that our car insurance policy has been charging us an $80 yearly glass coverage that waives our $1k deductible for glass only coverage on one of our cars. The reason we have a $1k deductible is because we would never have a problem paying out $1k for an unexpected car repair. This gets us lower yearly rates and in the past 7 years, we've never had even one insurance claim anyway. He stated the new car would be $120 for this glass policy for the year, meaning we'd be paying $200 a year in "glass coverage" for both cars, something that we would maybe rarely use (haven't yet), when the cost to replace a car window probably isn't even that much anyway. I'm thinking about discontinuing this glass coverage on both car policies.

[Marcellus]

Not a big deal to most of you but I got my B/U lights working yesterday. Took about 2 hours to get the wiring lined out but I think its pretty cool. I used LED bulbs so they are bright as hell.

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/DF17A10A-2595-4F1B-8D69-72C72E1AAD14_zpswev3mov2.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/DF17A10A-2595-4F1B-8D69-72C72E1AAD14_zpswev3mov2.jpg.html)

[lewdog]

Not a big deal to most of you but I got my B/U lights working yesterday. Took about 2 hours to get the wiring lined out but I think its pretty cool. I used LED bulbs so they are bright as hell.

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/DF17A10A-2595-4F1B-8D69-72C72E1AAD14_zpswev3mov2.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/DF17A10A-2595-4F1B-8D69-72C72E1AAD14_zpswev3mov2.jpg.html)

Anything you post about that car is awesome.

Looks nice and bright.

[Miles]

A difference insurance question here and Sauto price estimate if you can. What's the rough cost to replace a car window if it's shattered?

I just figured out that our car insurance policy has been charging us an $80 yearly glass coverage that waives our $1k deductible for glass only coverage on one of our cars. The reason we have a $1k deductible is because we would never have a problem paying out $1k for an unexpected car repair. This gets us lower yearly rates and in the past 7 years, we've never had even one insurance claim anyway. He stated the new car would be $120 for this glass policy for the year, meaning we'd be paying $200 a year in "glass coverage" for both cars, something that we would maybe rarely use (haven't yet), when the cost to replace a car window probably isn't even that much anyway. I'm thinking about discontinuing this glass coverage on both car policies.

Sauto is the one that could tell you better and glass can be cheaper in some markets. Last time I had to deal with glass it was under $300 for my windshield for name brand stuff.

[DJ's left nut]

Wheel ideas to replace these:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1595

Thoughts? Lots of chrome so I think I'd want to stay with the chrome wheels just to continue the theme (not my general preference but probably works best on this particular car).

5-spokes are just too common. I'm partial to the kind of pro-touring style wheels; forgeline makes some really pretty ones but that's why I'm calling all comers here. Anything you've seen recently that stands out?

[ModSocks]

Wheel ideas to replace these:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1595

Thoughts? Lots of chrome so I think I'd want to stay with the chrome wheels just to continue the theme (not my general preference but probably works best on this particular car).

5-spokes are just too common. I'm partial to the kind of pro-touring style wheels; forgeline makes some really pretty ones but that's why I'm calling all comers here. Anything you've seen recently that stands out?

MHT offers a pretty wide selection.

Wheel Pros (american racing) and Raceline also come to mind. Honestly, there's sooo many freakin' wheel manufactures out there....

Budnik wheels are pretty dope too.

I've seen so many that it's all kind of a blur. After awhile you realize everyone is just ripping off everyone else's design and everyone is kinda making slightly varied versions of the same freakin' wheel.

Personally im a fan of 3-piece wheels, but they're the most expensive. At the very least you should opt for a 2-piece so you can control the backspacing to get that maximum "deep-dish" look.

[ModSocks]

Also, check out concave style wheels. Im not sure about Camaros, but if you're limited in space and need a more positive offset, but want that deep dish look, the concave style is a real nice solution to that.

We have a car in our shop that uses that damn Roadster Shop MII front end w/ the 'vette spindles and it's too wide for the car, forcing us to use a wheel with more positive offset than normal. The customer wants that dished look so we custom ordered a set similar to these and they are really, really nice.

http://www.mhtwheels.com/circuit-w-1669.htm

Check out the red and black wheel. The contrast in the picture makes it easier to see the depth it creates while maintaining a positive offset.

[DJ's left nut]

MHT offers a pretty wide selection.

Wheel Pros (american racing) and Raceline also come to mind. Honestly, there's sooo many freakin' wheel manufactures out there....

Budnik wheels are pretty dope too.

I've seen so many that it's all kind of a blur. After awhile you realize everyone is just ripping off everyone else's design and everyone is kinda making slightly varied versions of the same freakin' wheel.

Personally im a fan of 3-piece wheels, but they're the most expensive. At the very least you should opt for a 2-piece so you can control the backspacing to get that maximum "deep-dish" look.

Love the 3 piece wheels but at $1,500/pop (on the low side) when I'm also trying to convince the wife to let me put EFI in and finally fix the damn AC (compressor's shot; it's 'zinging' the timing belt whenever I rev it at idle so there are clearly some valve issues in there).

The extent of my leverage is "you want me to get an SUV, if you let me turn the camaro into more of a daily driver, I'll get the damn regular SUV instead of insisting on some 500 HP monster like the Trackhawk or an M4 convertible or the new ZL1 or some other crazy shit"....

That is...uh...not excellent leverage. And I can't even say I'll hold off on buying the new SUV because she wants me to get on it now so I can get that paid off and she can turn around and trade-in her truck. I have dick for an argument here other than selling my motorcycle and that's the trump card that I need to fuck my secretary or something. That can get me whatever the hell I want so I'm not using it on wheels.

I'm going to desperately try to do this for $2k in wheels/tires but I suspect that's a losing bet. The tires absolutely have to be replaced - they're old and the chemical composition is spent. But the 8 inchers in the front are too wide and I get fender rub so now's the time to just move them to 7 inchers so I can take the rubbers out of the springs and get that raked look back.

But the issue is, as you said, there are so damn many manufacturers and choices out there that I just sit there and stare until my eyes glaze over and I decide to do actual work, which is somehow a more attractive option than wheel shopping.

[DJ's left nut]

Also, check out concave style wheels. Im not sure about Camaros, but if you're limited in space and need a more positive offset, but want that deep dish look, the concave style is a real nice solution to that.

We have a car in our shop that uses that damn Roadster Shop MII front end w/ the 'vette spindles and it's too wide for the car, forcing us to use a wheel with more positive offset than normal. The customer wants that dished look so we custom ordered a set similar to these and they are really, really nice.

http://www.mhtwheels.com/circuit-w-1669.htm

Check out the red and black wheel. The contrast in the picture makes it easier to see the depth it creates while maintaining a positive offset.

Those do look nice.

So the concave wheels would help with the shoulder rub? I'm terrified that I'm going to split a sidewall in a turn one of these days and I hate having passengers because every dip/turn is an adventure with the extra 130+ lbs in the front.

[DJ's left nut]

Thoughts?

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Niche---Live-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Niche-Forged-Zurich-Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72262098_418828142.png

That configurator thing is slick as hell.

[ModSocks]

Those do look nice.

So the concave wheels would help with the shoulder rub? I'm terrified that I'm going to split a sidewall in a turn one of these days and I hate having passengers because every dip/turn is an adventure with the extra 130+ lbs in the front.

Not really, but they'll help give the impression of a wider wheel w/ a more negative backspace, when you don't REALLY have the room.

Your rubbing issue is exactly why i suggested a 2 piece wheel. Often time w/ a 1-piece cast wheel, they just use generic offsets that "should" fit your car.

Now, i don't know about Camaros, but with Mustangs, no two 67's are ever the same. What may fit on one car, may not fit on another. So for our in shop builds, we never take for granted the wheel backspacing and always measure. For our retail wheels that we sell online, we always go with what we KNOW will fit for sure, over what may actually end up looking the best, because we're not there to measure for the customer.

The difference may only be 1/8th", but that 1/8" could be the difference between peeling rubber off your sidewall or not.

I would recommend dropping down to 7" as well for these older cars. Most guys say that they can fit 17x8's, and that may be true for some guys, but for others, they'll rub. 8" wide is almost always the maximum and for most older cars in the front, it's really pushing it.

We always recommend 7" wide because then we KNOW that there won't be rubbing.

However, if you want to maximize the width as well as the depth for that dished look, then you must go with a custom measured, 2- piece design

[ModSocks]

Thoughts?

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Niche---Live-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Niche-Forged-Zurich-Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72262098_418828142.png

That configurator thing is slick as hell.

Not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

[DJ's left nut]

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Rambler---U425--Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72263791_418833931.png

[ModSocks]

I'm going to desperately try to do this for $2k in wheels/tires but I suspect that's a losing bet. The tires absolutely have to be replaced - they're old and the chemical composition is spent. But the 8 inchers in the front are too wide and I get fender rub so now's the time to just move them to 7 inchers so I can take the rubbers out of the springs and get that raked look back.

.

You could beat your 2K budget with 1-piece designs, generally. 2-piece are generally a bit more, but nowhere near the cost of 3-piece wheels.

I'd call Wheel Pros (american racing) if i were you. They offer a lot of their wheels in both 1-piece cast as well as 2-piece "custom shop".

Also, i'd call around and ask these companies what their default Backspacing is for a '67 Camaro.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if it varies from manufacture to manufacture. And if it does...you got some research to do.

[Perineum Ripper]

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/wheels/med/US%20MAgs_Santa%20Cruz_A1-3001.png

[ModSocks]

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Rambler---U425--Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72263791_418833931.png

Those look a lot better than your first pic imo

[DJ's left nut]

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/wheels/med/US%20MAgs_Santa%20Cruz_A1-3001.png

not bad at all...

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Santa-Cruz---U436-Polished_72264717_418836548.png

US Mags has some nice lookin' wheels. Hadn't heard of them.

[DJ's left nut]

Those look a lot better than your first pic imo

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree; much simpler, cleaner look.

Mac's looked a lot better as well.

[Perineum Ripper]

not bad at all...

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Santa-Cruz---U436-Polished_72264717_418836548.png

US Mags has some nice lookin' wheels. Hadn't heard of them.

Seeing them on the car makes me like those more

But I also like all the wheels you picked so far..similar taste I guess

[DJ's left nut]

Seeing them on the car makes me like those more

But I also like all the wheels you picked so far..similar taste I guess

The issue I'll run into cosmetically is that I don't have those big, sexy Brembo discs or anything. I'm running a pretty basic disc setup in the front and rear drums, so I need to have a fair amount of wheel in there to keep what are otherwise pretty ordinary looking hubs from being overexposed.

I think both those Santa Cruz models you showed me and the ramblers do an okay job with that. Not perfect, but not so much that the first thing you'll notice are the ugly old brakes.

[Perineum Ripper]

The issue I'll run into cosmetically is that I don't have those big, sexy Brembo discs or anything. I'm running a pretty basic disc setup in the front and rear drums, so I need to have a fair amount of wheel in there to keep what are otherwise pretty ordinary looking hubs from being overexposed.

I think both those Santa Cruz models you showed me and the ramblers do an okay job with that. Not perfect, but not so much that the first thing you'll notice are the ugly old brakes.

You can always upgrade your front disks and calipers later on to give it that extra cosmetic look..if that is something you are into..I don't think it is that expensive but could be wrong..I am different and don't think rear drums are that bad looking..they never really make me think damn that's ugly

Yeah having big disks and the bright red Brembo or Wilwood calipers is cool looking but it isn't really a deal breaker for me if I see a car that doesn't have them

If any of that makes sense

[Marcellus]

Seeing them on the car makes me like those more

But I also like all the wheels you picked so far..similar taste I guess

Much better IMO.

[Marcellus]

Im in love with these right now for my car but with probably a satin black center.

http://billetwheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/1-DSC_4453.jpg

[Perineum Ripper]

Im in love with these right now for my car but with probably a satin black center.

http://billetwheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/1-DSC_4453.jpg

Those look good

You going to have the car up and going in time for the Power Tour this year

[Marcellus]

Those look good

You going to have the car up and going in time for the Power Tour this year

Its up and rocking now. (Finally)

I may try to hit up the start since its in KC but the route this year kind of sucks and just heads farther out so I may try to do 1 leg of it.

[Perineum Ripper]

Its up and rocking now. (Finally)

I may try to hit up the start since its in KC but the route this year kind of sucks and just heads farther out so I may try to do 1 leg of it.

Glad to hear it's going

I would love to go and just check out the cars and talk to people about them..wouldn't mind riding my bike along with them but don't know if that is a thing I could do or not

[Marcellus]

Glad to hear it's going

I would love to go and just check out the cars and talk to people about them..wouldn't mind riding my bike along with them but don't know if that is a thing I could do or not

I am sure you could, its pretty cool its starting at Arrowhead.

[SAUTO]

Thoughts?

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Niche---Live-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Niche-Forged-Zurich-Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72262098_418828142.png

That configurator thing is slick as hell.

i dont like them

[Marcellus]

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Rambler---U425--Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72263791_418833931.png

These look the best so far.

I think you should consider an updated 5 spoke look like the Foose Nitrous.

http://images.mhtwheels.com/images/wheels/xlarge/Foose_Nitrous5_Chrome_1000.jpg

http://www.mhtwheels.com/foose-b-639.htm

Definitely would be good on the budget.

[ModSocks]

These look the best so far.

I think you should consider an updated 5 spoke look like the Foose Nitrous.

http://images.mhtwheels.com/images/wheels/xlarge/Foose_Nitrous5_Chrome_1000.jpg

http://www.mhtwheels.com/foose-b-639.htm

Meh. It's just a more expensive Torq Thrust II imo.

[DJ's left nut]

These look the best so far.

I think you should consider an updated 5 spoke look like the Foose Nitrous.

Definitely would be good on the budget.

Not a fan; they look pretty similar to the ones I have.

Not looking for the 5-spoke and don't like those 'flourished' edges and stuff.

Though I think I'm definitely leaning towards the one you quoted; that's the US Mags Rambler. The more I look at them on the car, the more I like the way all of that works together. Nothing obnoxious but nothing too boring or run of the mill either. They make a black set that I'd consider because it might go well with all the black on the RS front and the tires, but man I don't think I could risk that without seeing them on the car first.

[ModSocks]

Not a fan; they look pretty similar to the ones I have.

Have you checked out Budnik wheels yet?

[DJ's left nut]

MHT offers a pretty wide selection.


Got the oil changed over lunch today and asked the guy at the desk if they had a catalogue. He said they did but that he used to be a rep for a company when he was in Las Vegas and worked extensively with a company that he could get wholesale on.

Wrote the name on a card....sure enough, MHT. Right where I'd been dinking around in the morning. He says he's done some custom wheels and such. My mechanic is a shade-tree mechanic that does great work (slowly) and has re-build a shitload of classics so I love the guy, but he's also an "I know a guy" kind of dude that wants me to talk to his buddy about wheels because he's a wheel dealer or something. I think I'll just stick with Plaza Tire and their guy because if he can get me that price from MHT, I know they'll back things if they don't fit, etc...

[DJ's left nut]

A completely different direction:

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Cobra---U419--Black-Machined-with-Chrome-Lip_72266611_418935630.png

Not much wheel at all; not sure if I could ever talk myself into it but there's something intriguing about those black accents. I'd pretty much have to swap out rotors/calipers if I went that route.

[DJ's left nut]

Have you checked out Budnik wheels yet?

Nosir; have it in a tab but haven't made my way through them yet.

[MIAdragon]

What's your wheel budget? Maximum size?

[MIAdragon]

https://goo.gl/images/UjlJeg

[DJ's left nut]

What's your wheel budget? Maximum size?

Probably 19s in the back, 18s in the front.

I'd like to stay under $1,000 on wheels presuming another $1,000 in tires though I'm realistic enough to know that I'll probably end up around $1,500 for a decent set. A $500 difference is pretty irrelevant when you're talking something that has a theoretically indefinite shelf life.

[SAUTO]

A completely different direction:

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Cobra---U419--Black-Machined-with-Chrome-Lip_72266611_418935630.png

Not much wheel at all; not sure if I could ever talk myself into it but there's something intriguing about those black accents. I'd pretty much have to swap out rotors/calipers if I went that route.

Those are my favorite so far

[ModSocks]

Got the oil changed over lunch today and asked the guy at the desk if they had a catalogue. He said they did but that he used to be a rep for a company when he was in Las Vegas and worked extensively with a company that he could get wholesale on.

Wrote the name on a card....sure enough, MHT. Right where I'd been dinking around in the morning. He says he's done some custom wheels and such. My mechanic is a shade-tree mechanic that does great work (slowly) and has re-build a shitload of classics so I love the guy, but he's also an "I know a guy" kind of dude that wants me to talk to his buddy about wheels because he's a wheel dealer or something. I think I'll just stick with Plaza Tire and their guy because if he can get me that price from MHT, I know they'll back things if they don't fit, etc...

Nice, im also an MHT dealer (among other wheel companies), so if you're ever curious about a price etc holla at me.

[DJ's left nut]

Nice, im also an MHT dealer (among other wheel companies), so if you're ever curious about a price etc holla at me.

Will do. I tend to try to work local when possible but Plaza ain't exactly a mom and pop. I'll probably give these guys a first run at it but what's really important is that they're willing to do the kind of stuff it sounds like you're willing to do - get down in there, measure shit and know what fits, not just base stuff off a spec sheet.

If I feel like they're half-assing things, you'll be the first to know.

[hometeam]

Thoughts?

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Niche---Live-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Niche-Forged-Zurich-Brushed-Face-Hi-Luster-Windows_72262098_418828142.png

That configurator thing is slick as hell.

Looks like more of a Euro style wheel.

[lewdog]

Chrome wheels are ugly as hell.

/MIA Dragon. :D

[MIAdragon]

Chrome wheels are ugly as hell.

/MIA Dragon. :D

😘

[DJ's left nut]

Looks like more of a Euro style wheel.

Yeah, that was what I was going for on that particular option; it doesn't really fit the car. The ones I've seen that use those well are the ones that were built with the flush-mount windows and things of that nature; essentially a modern 'fusion' on a classic car.

Mind doesn't do any of that - it's just a straight up American muscle car that looks mostly stock. They just don't fit the rest of the car terribly well.

I like that kind of wheel in theory, but on the car it just doesn't look right.

[Marcellus]

I really really really love these wheels but at $1300 each I dont know if I can pull the trigger. I may have to. Satin black center with a gloss black lip.

http://www.forgeline.com/product_images/product_photo-xlarge_image-379.jpg

[DJ's left nut]

Here's a few that are completely different from the other 2 that I've really liked. I'm intrigued but they're risky.

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Discounted-Wheel-Warehouse-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Rotiform-BLQ-T-Candy-Black-w-Polished-Lip_72356573_419174622.png

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Discounted-Wheel-Warehouse-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Rotiform-SNA-Gloss-Grey_72356573_419173255.png

Not sure that dished look works for this car; too modern. Would look fantastic on an M3 but just doesn't play well with an old chevy.

[DJ's left nut]

I really really really love these wheels but at $1300 each I dont know if I can pull the trigger. I may have to. Satin black center with a gloss black lip.


Isn't yours kindof a matte black car? That polished lip is a neat flourish on the satin center.

[Marcellus]

Isn't yours kindof a matte black car? That polished lip is a neat flourish on the satin center.

My car is actually very high gloss black but the engine compartment is satin black and there are a bunch of satin black accessories on the motor.

[DJ's left nut]

Okay, last pair and I should eventually stop bugging you guys:

Here's the most classic look I've seen yet that doesn't have too much of the boring, conventional 5-spoke look to it:

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Mad-Max---U431-High-Luster-Polished-Windows-Brushed-Face_72372396_419226313.png

I actually wonder if that goes too far towards that classic, conservative styling.

And a darker set that I think looks nice but may not pop enough around everything else. Then again, that may be a good thing.

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Rotiform-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Rotiform-SPF-Brushed-DDT-Matte-Clear_72372726_419227521.png

What intrigues me a bit about that matte grey is that I have those silver/grey racing stripes rather than the white nose stripe on that car. They're superman silver when the sun blasts them but those wheels will pop in the sun, too. Meanwhile, in slightly overcast or shade, they look mostly like a crisp gray that might look damn nice with those.

[ModSocks]

I really really really love these wheels but at $1300 each I dont know if I can pull the trigger. I may have to. Satin black center with a gloss black lip.

http://www.forgeline.com/product_images/product_photo-xlarge_image-379.jpg

Those are dope. They'd look good on your car imo.

[ModSocks]

Here's a few that are completely different from the other 2 that I've really liked. I'm intrigued but they're risky.

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Discounted-Wheel-Warehouse-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Rotiform-BLQ-T-Candy-Black-w-Polished-Lip_72356573_419174622.png

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/Discounted-Wheel-Warehouse-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-Rotiform-SNA-Gloss-Grey_72356573_419173255.png

Not sure that dished look works for this car; too modern. Would look fantastic on an M3 but just doesn't play well with an old chevy.

Hell no to the first one, man. Looks like the kind of shit you;d see on one of those 90's Hondas from Tijuana.

And I completely disagree with you on the dished look for a classic. It's easily one of the most sought after looks on a classic, and one of the hardest looks to achieve because unlike newer cars, it's hard to maximize the backspacing to achieve it (depending on the car of course).

[DJ's left nut]

Lots of exposed lugs these days. Seems like it wasn't too terribly long ago that nobody was making that kind of wheel anymore. Interesting to see folks going back to them.

[DJ's left nut]

And I completely disagree with you on the dished look for a classic. It's easily one of the most sought after looks on a classic, and one of the hardest looks to achieve because unlike newer cars, it's hard to maximize the backspacing to achieve it (depending on the car of course).

It may be something where I'd appreciate it more in person. You get a damn aggressive look out of those and may the real world look is a lot better than the look in photos.

Where I'd probably run into an issues is, as noted, my car's a bit of a bitch in the front so I'd probably have to roll the hell out of the fenders to make 'em fit. Now we're just more $$ into the job.

[ModSocks]

It may be something where I'd appreciate it more in person. You get a damn aggressive look out of those and may the real world look is a lot better than the look in photos.

Where I'd probably run into an issues is, as noted, my car's a bit of a bitch in the front so I'd probably have to roll the hell out of the fenders to make 'em fit. Now we're just more $$ into the job.

I was going to mention that as well, it's kind of hard to tell how deep the dish would actually be on your car, since the photo generator won't really account for the backspacing specific to your car.

[ModSocks]

Shameless plug incoming:

Im good friends with the guys over at Motoroso.

Motoroso is a start up company based out of San Diego that aims to fuse enthusiasts with fabrication shops and re-sellers. I can go on and on about what they offer, but I'll spare you.

Instead, use their search function for inspiration. It's a fantastic library and a great way to view a collection of vehicles all in one place.

For you, DJ, it's a great way to see different style wheels on 1st gen Camaros.

Check it out!

https://www.motoroso.com/?query=%2767+Camaro

[Marcellus]

Shameless plug incoming:

Im good friends with the guys over at Motoroso.

Motoroso is a start up company based out of San Diego that aims to fuse enthusiasts with fabrication shops and re-sellers. I can go on and on about what they offer, but I'll spare you.

Instead, use their search function for inspiration. It's a fantastic library and a great way to view a collection of vehicles all in one place.

For you, DJ, it's a great way to see different style wheels on 1st gen Camaros.

Check it out!

https://www.motoroso.com/?query=subType:%22Modern+Muscle%22%20||%20%2767%20Camaro

You may have just killed my productivity for the rest of the day.

[ModSocks]

You may have just killed my productivity for the rest of the day.

What's neat about it is that, depending on the car, the image is interactive. Some images will contain videos that showcase the products seen on the car, some may just have hyperlinks for the product that reverts to their site.

[ModSocks]

Look at this pro-touring 2nd gen Camaro....fap fap fap fap fap fap

https://www.motoroso.com/forgeline/Garage/544fe64980a16/Chevrolet-Camaros/585da2a0631ee/Roadster-Shops-Rampage-70-Camaro-on-Forgeline-GA3R-Wheels?ajax

[DJ's left nut]

I'll have to play around with that. Given the amount of time I've pissed away on this adventure over the last day, I will probably need to try to actually work this afternoon but then again, that might not happen anyway.

[Marcellus]

Look at this pro-touring 2nd gen Camaro....fap fap fap fap fap fap

https://www.motoroso.com/forgeline/Garage/544fe64980a16/Chevrolet-Camaros/585da2a0631ee/Roadster-Shops-Rampage-70-Camaro-on-Forgeline-GA3R-Wheels?ajax

I saw that car as SEMA in 2015. Its ridiculous.

[Marcellus]

http://www.forgeline.com/product_images/customer_vehicle-large_image-1170.jpg

I almost JIMP

[Marcellus]

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/65%20Chevy%20II/1D8B200E-7AF0-42E5-BA1F-0D3FCC4C0871_zpsgqopmiqw.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/65%20Chevy%20II/1D8B200E-7AF0-42E5-BA1F-0D3FCC4C0871_zpsgqopmiqw.jpg.html)

I was trying to find a recent pic of my car from the side to work on some wheel mock up stuff and came across this one. Not good for what I need but I do dig the shit out of it for some reason.

This is for you Lewdog.

[Perineum Ripper]

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/65%20Chevy%20II/1D8B200E-7AF0-42E5-BA1F-0D3FCC4C0871_zpsgqopmiqw.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/65%20Chevy%20II/1D8B200E-7AF0-42E5-BA1F-0D3FCC4C0871_zpsgqopmiqw.jpg.html)

I was trying to find a recent pic of my car from the side to work on some wheel mock up stuff and came across this one. Not good for what I need but I do dig the shit out of it for some reason.

This is for you Lewdog.

Looking at that picture made me all tingly inside..haven't felt emotions that deep since the priest touched me when I was 9

[MIAdragon]

Those are dope. They'd look good on your car imo.

love me some forgeline

http://i.imgur.com/atrgEaH.jpg

[MIAdragon]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e5/c5/4f/e5c54fc7464b28b117c27cea4e3588ab.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VkdSSyE.jpg

Fikse

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t422/WheelWerkes/CamaroFikse13.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ee/0f/14/ee0f141c6960375791a1892b27a87b59.jpg

[hometeam]

Love the top two in the previous post

[lewdog]

Okay, last pair and I should eventually stop bugging you guys:

Here's the most classic look I've seen yet that doesn't have too much of the boring, conventional 5-spoke look to it:

http://images.iconfigurators.com/images/saved-images/US-MAG-Red-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-RS-1967-US-Mags-Mad-Max---U431-High-Luster-Polished-Windows-Brushed-Face_72372396_419226313.png



These are my favorite from the ones you've posted.

[Baby Lee]

Shameless plug incoming:

Im good friends with the guys over at Motoroso.

Motoroso is a start up company based out of San Diego that aims to fuse enthusiasts with fabrication shops and re-sellers. I can go on and on about what they offer, but I'll spare you.

Instead, use their search function for inspiration. It's a fantastic library and a great way to view a collection of vehicles all in one place.

For you, DJ, it's a great way to see different style wheels on 1st gen Camaros.

Check it out!

https://www.motoroso.com/?query=%2767+Camaro

They ever get into trademark beef with Moroso?

[Baby Lee]

love me some forgeline



[4 more pics]

No offense DJLN, but any/all of those five are better fits [for their respective applications] than your solutions. Don't know if it's being wed to bright red and gloss chrome [bordering on platinum] or what, but there has to be a more integrated solution.

The red with 5 wide at bottom was what I initially had in mind when you said you were in the market for new wheels. I think your body/paint needs either wide spokes or muted finish.

[lewdog]

I might only drive my Mustang 200 or so miles in the next 4-5 months. Should I add a can of Seafoam to the tank to stabilize the fuel I have in there since the gas will be sitting quite a bit, or do I risk having issues with doing this? Or will it not matter if the same tank of gas is used for 4 months, just sitting in a hot Arizona garage?

[SAUTO]

I might only drive my Mustang 200 or so miles in the next 4-5 months. Should I add a can of Seafoam to the tank to stabilize the fuel I have in there since the gas will be sitting quite a bit, or do I risk having issues with doing this? Or will it not matter if the same tank of gas is used for 4 months, just sitting in a hot Arizona garage?

Sta-bil storage is what I use if something is gonna sit much. It's probably overkill for just a couple months but gas sours much more quickly these days.

[lewdog]

Sta-bil storage is what I use if something is gonna sit much. It's probably overkill for just a couple months but gas sours much more quickly these days.

Sounds good. I see 8oz of Sta-bil called "storage" is $4 on Amazon. Looks like the Sta-bil "protection" is slightly more. Both cheaper than Seafoam!

[DJ's left nut]

No offense DJLN, but any/all of those five are better fits [for their respective applications] than your solutions. Don't know if it's being wed to bright red and gloss chrome [bordering on platinum] or what, but there has to be a more integrated solution.

The red with 5 wide at bottom was what I initially had in mind when you said you were in the market for new wheels. I think your body/paint needs either wide spokes or muted finish.

Not offended (dissent is the point of the exercise), but admittedly a bit puzzled.

I'm 'wed' to bright red and chrome because that first picture is my car. It's not a mockup of what I'm trying to accomplish - it's the actual vehicle parked in my garage. Which is, needless to say, extremely bright red with quite a bit of chrome. I have to keep that in mind when trying to marry it all.

As for the 5 spokes - just absolutely hate 'em. They look cheap and boring and done 100 times over. I'd keep my shit rims over them and I can't stand my rims at all. A 'lot of wheel' look is what I have and what I'm trying to get away from. Don't want the wide spokes.

And really, the first grey Camaro in MIA's 4-car set has what sure look like Forgeline ZX3S's on them, which are exactly what my buddy put on his. Compare those to the first US Mags I posted and they're virtually identical with the exception of the lugs around the outside of the rim. When I sent a bunch of options to him to look at, those US Mag ramblers were what he picked because of the same reason; he thought they looked just like his. The 3rd and 4th wheels (including the 5 spokes) are polished chrome in their own right. The 2nd is gold and I'm not putting that on a red car; it would make my eyes bleed.

So I guess I'm just a bit puzzled as to the massive distinction you see here. They're actual photographs as opposed to animations so that's going to make them look better. Moreover, those cars are just nicer than mine. Those are $100K rides, at least (well the 2nd and 4th may not be; hard to tell based on just the cosmetics). And with those forgeline rims, you're going to approach $6K on the low side. I'm just not going that route.

That said, I am moving away from the chrome a bit because I think I can incorporate the more satin/brushed look just fine into my silver SS stripes. Those stripes only really pop silver when the sun blasts them and pulls out the metallic in the paint. Otherwise they'll play very nicely with the darker rims and with the RS grill/lights bringing plenty of black to the party as well, I can get away with a little darker rims.

I think the best option is unfortunately going to be the most expensive and it's a 2 or 3 piece rim with a polished chrome lip and a black or gray matte/satin. I can't do anything like Marcellus is doing - that's just too dark and doesn't fit this car at all, IMO. But with a darker middle and polished lip, etc... That will bring all that stuff together really well (it's what the hockey stripe and first from the 4-set have done). I'll have to kick around to see what the 2-piece guys run and see if I can still do it in budget while not cutting corners on the tires.

[Perineum Ripper]

http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/600/608/608-u111.jpg

[DJ's left nut]

http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/600/608/608-u111.jpg

Yup, something a lot like that.

I'm really coming around on the Rotiform SNA's and think I could make some adjustments to the finish and get a good look there.

Edit: Wait a damn minute...that's that rambler and looks like a 1-piece rim. That could be right in my wheelhouse. Edit again: Nah, pretty sure that's a 2-piece but probably still pretty doable.

[DJ's left nut]

Okay custom guys - I'm running into an issue with 18s.

Looks like many manufacturers don't make an 18x7 rim. They do 18x8 but to get to 7s I need to go down to a 17.

I can get away with going with 18s in the back and 17s in the front, right? That size difference shouldn't create any odd visual cues.

I just really want to be able to put the 7s on front (probably stick with 8s in the back for depth/dimension). That will let me get those wheels back up in the fender wells a bit and improve the look.

[ModSocks]

No offense DJLN, but any/all of those five are better fits [for their respective applications] than your solutions. Don't know if it's being wed to bright red and gloss chrome [bordering on platinum] or what, but there has to be a more integrated solution.

The red with 5 wide at bottom was what I initially had in mind when you said you were in the market for new wheels. I think your body/paint needs either wide spokes or muted finish.

Thing is, those cars are all Resto-Mods. I'm willing to bet they have shortened rear-ends, coil over suspensions and rolled quarters.

DJ is working with, iirc, Leaf Springs, drum brakes, a standard rear end and standard quarters.

So those wheels wouldn't necessarily look the same on his car because the depth wouldn't be the same.

[Perineum Ripper]

Yup, something a lot like that.

I'm really coming around on the Rotiform SNA's and think I could make some adjustments to the finish and get a good look there.

Edit: Wait a damn minute...that's that rambler and looks like a 1-piece rim. That could be right in my wheelhouse. Edit again: Nah, pretty sure that's a 2-piece but probably still pretty doable.

According to Jegs website it is a 1 piece

[DJ's left nut]

Pretty damn close to what I'd have...

https://www.azproperformance.com/images/D/us-mags-rambler-3.jpg

[ModSocks]

They ever get into trademark beef with Moroso?

Don't think so. Wouldn't imagine they would.

[ModSocks]

Okay custom guys - I'm running into an issue with 18s.

Looks like many manufacturers don't make an 18x7 rim. They do 18x8 but to get to 7s I need to go down to a 17.

I can get away with going with 18s in the back and 17s in the front, right? That size difference shouldn't create any odd visual cues.

I just really want to be able to put the 7s on front (probably stick with 8s in the back for depth/dimension). That will let me get those wheels back up in the fender wells a bit and improve the look.

I'm personally a fan of the staggered look. And yeah, i can't recall ever seeing an 18x7. An 18x7 would look kind of funky imo.

[ModSocks]

Yup, something a lot like that.

I'm really coming around on the Rotiform SNA's and think I could make some adjustments to the finish and get a good look there.

Edit: Wait a damn minute...that's that rambler and looks like a 1-piece rim. That could be right in my wheelhouse. Edit again: Nah, pretty sure that's a 2-piece but probably still pretty doable.

Not sure why'd you even want a 1-piece outside of saving some $$$.

[DJ's left nut]

According to Jegs website it is a 1 piece

Yeah, looks like I can find them for about $230 for the back and $170 for the front. Well within budget.

And really, the Rotiform's were cheaper than I expected as well but they don't appear to make a 7'' rim so !@#$ 'em.

As Detox noted; a lot of those custom wheel manufacturers are making stuff for the auto-cross and hardcore custom crowd and that's just a price range I ain't gonna be working in. Even when the wheels aren't that expensive, they don't make them in the right sizes for a car that hasn't been tubbed or some shit like that.

[DJ's left nut]

Not sure why'd you even want a 1-piece outside of saving some $$$.

Is your concerns cosmetics or fit?

Is there a reason these ramblers wouldn't do what I'm looking for here? I guess I just don't understand the distinction between the 1 and 2 piece rims well enough to see what you're working towards. I know you've discussed the 2-piece being able to handle the offset better but there are enough options with this wheel that a good shop should be able to measure and know what I need.

Please expound, sir.

[DJ's left nut]

According to Jegs website it is a 1 piece

Figured it out - that wheel comes in both.

It's about $550 more per wheel for the 2-piece. I really don't think I can justify that at all. And there is just enough of a cosmetic difference that I don't think I could get away with putting 1-piece rims on the back and the 2-piece rims on the front to keep some costs down.

For a $2,200 price difference (that would more than cover parts/install for my EFI), I think I'd have to just make due with the 1-piece. If it's a 2-piece rim and no EFI or the 1-piece rim and EFI (and probably still enough left after that to fix my AC and upgrade calipers in the front), it seems like a bit of a no-brainer.

[ModSocks]

Is your concerns cosmetics or fit?

Is there a reason these ramblers wouldn't do what I'm looking for here? I guess I just don't understand the distinction between the 1 and 2 piece rims well enough to see what you're working towards. I know you've discussed the 2-piece being able to handle the offset better but there are enough options with this wheel that a good shop should be able to measure and know what I need.

Please expound, sir.

Both.

With a 2 piece you can maximize your backspacing specific to your car. You may be able to get a little more "lip" on the rim barrel in the rear, and you can assure yourself proper fitment in the front. Im assuming you want the wheels to be tucked under the fender/quarters, right? Nothing worse then getting some wheels and they freakin' stick out.

Like i mentioned in a post before, call these wheel manufactures and ask them what the back spacing is on their 1 piece for a 1st gen Camaro. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you called 3 different companies and got 3 different answers. Maybe they all give you the same answer and you can hav a bit more confidence with a 1 piece. But i'd call around and check for sure.

I distribute for several different wheel manufactures, and several of them list different backspacing for the early Mustang. It can range from 4.25" to 5". 3/4" may not seem like much, but an 18" wheel IS an oversized wheel for these cars, therefore 3/4" could be the difference between shredding your side wall on an embankment or not.

Also, like in the pictures MIA posted, those cars are all running staggered fitment. The backspacing in the front is obviously not the same as what's used in the rear. The rear has a much deeper dish.

If you go custom 2-piece, you can achieve that staggered depth, rather than having the same wheel on all 4 corners.

Consider this:

One wheel manufacture builds their Camaro specific offset based on a car with Drums in the front.....The other may build it off a car with Discs in the front....another may base their measurment off a car that had Aftermarket Discs up front....because the surface of the hat changes in all 3 examples, each manufacture may have 3 different measurements.

Sure, the difference may only be an 1/8" to 1/4", but that difference can be the difference between your tires rubbing or not.

I can't speak on Camaros, but i know for a FACT that no two Mustangs are the same. What may fit on one '67, may rub on another.

[ModSocks]

Here's a story:

I had a customer from several years ago with a '66 Mustang. He had all stock suspension and he came to us looking for wheels.

He said he had read online that you could fit 17x8's on all four corners. I explained to him what i explained to you DJ.

He didn't listen.

He ordered up 4 wheels from someone else, we installed them, and when the car was on the lift....they fit perfectly. In the air, with no weight on them, they cleared just fine.

We sat the car down the ground....it was tight...couldn't even get a finger between the wheel and the fender.....but they fit.

As soon as the customer drove the car out of the shop and onto our sloped driveway...he left a coil of rubber on the ground...completely shaved off the sidewall against the fender. There weren't even letters on the tires up front anymore.

[ModSocks]

Like i mentioned before, if a customer calls me up looking for wheels, I'm going to sell him what i know is "safe" for his car. What is safe may not be what looks the best, as the goal is to make sure the wheel clears, not maximize the space in his quarters/fenders.

If you want what's safe AND what looks best, you may have to go with a custom measured 2-piece.

Oh, and you better be sure the guy who's measuring knows wtf he's doing...

[Marcellus]

Yea there is a metric shit ton than can effect wheel fitment especially if you are trying to maximize.

The way my car is set up I will have 4.5 to 5" Back space on an 8" wheel up front and 3.5" of backspace on an 8.5" or 9" wheel in the back.

With my suspension set up I have more room to the inside wheel well and hub in the front and on the outside of the hub in the rear.

Which will give you the flush looking wheel in the front and a deep dish wheel in the back.

I am also going staggered 17's and 18's.

Even if I used 8" wheels on all 4 corners the dish would be quite different. This is next to impossible to do with stock suspension.

[Marcellus]

https://assets.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2014/08/G-Comp-Nova1.jpg

Now imagine this car shiny black with a cowl hood.

[DJ's left nut]

My buddy's car:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1835

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1834

His is on par with those super restorations above. Obviously a full frame off rotisserie restore. That's why he can't ever drive it and I can drive mine to work and softball. He had a whole bunch of combat pay and nothing to spend it on so when he got back, he just kept throwing money at this thing and 5 years later had the monster that it is today.

The funny thing is that as nice as that car is and as well built as it is, there are still as many gremlins in that as there are in mine. He had a problem with his rear brakes for the longest time (couldn't get them to unlock right) and for some weird ass reason, his tail/brake light on the left side just wouldn't turn on/off correctly.

He has some pretty exotic shit in there, though. It's been awhile but he ended up with some sort of strange block design (I think from Jegs) that mounts to the 350 engine mounts but makes like 550 HP. I've never actually driven his; just a little skittish with that much car that required that much $$ and if you wrecked it you'd never really have it exactly right again.

[Perineum Ripper]

My buddy's car:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1835

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/picture.php?albumid=106&pictureid=1834

His is on par with those super restorations above. Obviously a full frame off rotisserie restore. That's why he can't ever drive it and I can drive mine to work and softball. He had a whole bunch of combat pay and nothing to spend it on so when he got back, he just kept throwing money at this thing and 5 years later had the monster that it is today.

The funny thing is that as nice as that car is and as well built as it is, there are still as many gremlins in that as there are in mine. He had a problem with his rear brakes for the longest time (couldn't get them to unlock right) and for some weird ass reason, his tail/brake light on the left side just wouldn't turn on/off correctly.

He has some pretty exotic shit in there, though. It's been awhile but he ended up with some sort of strange block design (I think from Jegs) that mounts to the 350 engine mounts but makes like 550 HP. I've never actually driven his; just a little skittish with that much car that required that much $$ and if you wrecked it you'd never really have it exactly right again.



When and where do you play softball at..I play Thursday nights up at Cosmo Park

[Dayze]

looks a little odd with what looks like, to me anyway, Dodge hash marks.

dont' get me wrong, that thing is sweet. but it would drive me nuts . I'd have to re-paint it. there's no rationale for it...I just would lol.

[DJ's left nut]

When and where do you play softball at..I play Thursday nights up at Cosmo Park

Tuesday and Wednesday; mens and co-ed respectively.

[DJ's left nut]

looks a little odd with what looks like, to me anyway, Dodge hash marks.

dont' get me wrong, that thing is sweet. but it would drive me nuts . I'd have to re-paint it. there's no rationale for it...I just would lol.

I told him the same thing - I agree, they're a Dodge thing.

But he wanted 'em so whatev. He didn't want the same hockey/SS/nose stripes everyone else had and figured if he took them up to the fender/wheel well, it wouldn't be exactly like an RT ripoff. Not my preference but it is interesting looking.

[Perineum Ripper]

Tuesday and Wednesday; mens and co-ed respectively.

I play co-ed on Thursday..if you take your car up there one night let me know so I can come check it out..if you don't mind

[hometeam]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18034007_10208473520026504_2103835589425433170_n.jpg?oh=6a1d8515b7af474c56cc5df824538fb2&oe=594EA765

[SAUTO]

I was in Versailles today

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

2017 Z06, drove it home today!

[SAUTO]

Yeah...That's bad ass

[DJ's left nut]

Sweet ride, man. Love this generation of vette.

[hometeam]

I was in Versailles today

Be there may 20.

Also put in my notice that Ill be taking off work for Magic Dragon May 5th and 6th at LOZ.

Gotta be CPers in attendance at both of these things~

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Sweet ride, man. Love this generation of vette.

The C3 and C7 are the only ones I've loved. My plates say BAC7.

[Buehler445]

2017 Z06, drove it home today!

Nice! That's amazing.

[DJ's left nut]

Be there may 20.

Also put in my notice that Ill be taking off work for Magic Dragon May 5th and 6th at LOZ.

Gotta be CPers in attendance at both of these things~

If I get this wheel thing figured out by then, I'll do my best.

A carrot, so to speak.

[Marcellus]

2017 Z06, drove it home today!

Fucking A.

[Marcellus]

Be there may 20.

Also put in my notice that Ill be taking off work for Magic Dragon May 5th and 6th at LOZ.

Gotta be CPers in attendance at both of these things~

You know the Power Tour kicks from Arrowhead this year right?

[TimeForWasp]

I guess this would be a place to post this.

I'm parting out a 2006 Hyundai Sonata GLS if anyone needs parts.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

A picture of my new car on my new property.

[hometeam]

ALRIGHT BOYS. MAGIC DRAGON AND SHELBYFEST ARE IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THIS WEEKEND.

WHO COMIN?

Lets get down! I will see how much oil I can burn through before we replace the block in my car. Yes... yes.. the saga of the fuckin POS trans am continues. Burning oil a ta high rate, almost rollin coal. Have done every test possible, leakdown and compression is fine, rings where gapped for NOS etc, AFRs are perfect... nothing should be wrong.. bu still eating oil.

SO, this weekend im gonna light the tires up before it goes under the knife again~

But for real.. is ANYONE coming down? Im taking saturday off, and will prob go down to magic dragon Fri night and saturday during the day. Of course its easy for me to go to Shelbyfest as I am only a few miles out of town. Get with me and we can do racecar shit and eat food.

[SAUTO]

ALRIGHT BOYS. MAGIC DRAGON AND SHELBYFEST ARE IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THIS WEEKEND.

WHO COMIN?

Lets get down! I will see how much oil I can burn through before we replace the block in my car. Yes... yes.. the saga of the fuckin POS trans am continues. Burning oil a ta high rate, almost rollin coal. Have done every test possible, leakdown and compression is fine, rings where gapped for NOS etc, AFRs are perfect... nothing should be wrong.. bu still eating oil.

SO, this weekend im gonna light the tires up before it goes under the knife again~

But for real.. is ANYONE coming down? Im taking saturday off, and will prob go down to magic dragon Fri night and saturday during the day. Of course its easy for me to go to Shelbyfest as I am only a few miles out of town. Get with me and we can do racecar shit and eat food.
Well fuck. I'm headed to, magic dragon right now, I typed up a post on it right after you posted this but I guess I didn't hit the submit button.

[hometeam]

Well ****. I'm headed to, magic dragon right now, I typed up a post on it right after you posted this but I guess I didn't hit the submit button.

Weak!

Versailles show is this weekend.. replacing the bottom end of the TA since we could never get it right we are just going to start over with a new block/rings etc

Bike is in COMO getting its custom exhaust work done but I told him I needed it by Saturday, if not im just gonna take the daily down.

Versailles show is bangin and always a good time.

Anyone else planning on it?

[DJ's left nut]

Weak!

Versailles show is this weekend.. replacing the bottom end of the TA since we could never get it right we are just going to start over with a new block/rings etc

Bike is in COMO getting its custom exhaust work done but I told him I needed it by Saturday, if not im just gonna take the daily down.

Versailles show is bangin and always a good time.

Anyone else planning on it?

Where do you get your bike worked on in CoMo? I need a new back tire and figure any tire shop could do it but I wouldn't mind getting the whole thing looked over and tuned up. The place I used to go to closed a few years back so I mostly just change the oil myself and hope nothing breaks now.

[hometeam]

Where do you get your bike worked on in CoMo? I need a new back tire and figure any tire shop could do it but I wouldn't mind getting the whole thing looked over and tuned up. The place I used to go to closed a few years back so I mostly just change the oil myself and hope nothing breaks now.

There is a bonafide legend that has a shop in como..

http://midmomc.com/


Mid MO MC is owned and operated by Norm Wilding, who grew up just outside London England, and learnt his wrenching skills on Triumph, Norton, BSA, Matchless and AJS etc.. From a very early age he was building "hot rod" motorcycles, taking Triumph engines and making them fit into the Norton featherbed frames, and building what is today known as the original "cafe racer". In 1979 Norm built a Harley Davidson 45 trike that took Best Engineering, Best Trike, and Best of Show at "The Kent Bike Show", which was then (and still is) the most prestigious custom motorcycle show in Europe.

His work has been featured in many of the best custom magazines in Europe.

In his 35 years of being "in the business", Norm has built many "show quality" motorcycles, trikes, and hot rod cars. so if it's custom paintwork or custom fabrication you need, then give him a call at (573)445-8827, or email him at norm@midmomc.com .

Mid MO MC is located behind Chapman heating & air on I-70 Drive NW in Columbia Missouri. It's a "one stop" shop for the bike & trike rider.

Check him out! he does lots of custom work but he does maintenance etc also. I have built my bobber through 'stage 1' all on my own, but i cant weld, so he is going to do a one-off exhaust for me, and I just dont trust myself with the carbs so he is going to go ahead and do the stealth air kit install (I could do that but it needs to be done as same time as pipes and jet) and jet kit so the bike runs properly.

I posted a while back in here some of my first wrenching on the bike, and its come a long way, and I havent even begun on the cosmetics part.

Currently:

http://i.imgur.com/0P1JZEb.jpg

[DJ's left nut]

There is a bonafide legend that has a shop in como..

http://midmomc.com/



Check him out! he does lots of custom work but he does maintenance etc also. I have built my bobber through 'stage 1' all on my own, but i cant weld, so he is going to do a one-off exhaust for me, and I just dont trust myself with the carbs so he is going to go ahead and do the stealth air kit install (I could do that but it needs to be done as same time as pipes and jet) and jet kit so the bike runs properly.

I posted a while back in here some of my first wrenching on the bike, and its come a long way, and I havent even begun on the cosmetics part.

Currently:

http://i.imgur.com/0P1JZEb.jpg

Seems like he'll be less excited about changing a tire and tightening a chain on my Vulcan, then...

(Edit: N/M - looks like he does a lot of work on metrics and the like; figured a custom builder would be fine telling me and my extremely forgettable bagger to take a number and he'll get to it when he gets to it)

Good lookin' scoot.

[hometeam]

Seems like he'll be less excited about changing a tire and tightening a chain on my Vulcan, then...

(Edit: N/M - looks like he does a lot of work on metrics and the like; figured a custom builder would be fine telling me and my extremely forgettable bagger to take a number and he'll get to it when he gets to it)

Good lookin' scoot.

He definitely does maintenance. I had to wait to get in for the custom work because of all the tires he was changing and valves he was adjusting~ I mean of course it is 'that time' of the year so he was trying to get some easier projects out of the way first.

I'm actually pretty excited as I gave him some creative license to do the exhaust for me, I just want it short and loud, and let him work out the body lines~

[DJ's left nut]

He definitely does maintenance. I had to wait to get in for the custom work because of all the tires he was changing and valves he was adjusting~ I mean of course it is 'that time' of the year so he was trying to get some easier projects out of the way first.

I'm actually pretty excited as I gave him some creative license to do the exhaust for me, I just want it short and loud, and let him work out the body lines~

I just drilled holes in my baffles.

I suspect yours sounds better...

[Dayze]

I bet LAF pipes would be a good style to mimic on that bike.

[hometeam]

I just drilled holes in my baffles.

I suspect yours sounds better...

I had mine drilled already.. and it still sucked ass.

I dont know on mine yet, wont have it back until next week, but it will be one-off pipes, no more shitty airbox, and carbs jetted to high heaven.

You bet its gonna sound right~

[hometeam]

I bet LAF pipes would be a good style to mimic on that bike.

I gave him some ideas including similar styles to that.

[SAUTO]

I got to align an old Packard the other day, 54 I think, convertible. Full resto. They had around 150 in it. My buddy built it. He's pretty fucking good.

I got a couple pics. I'll post them shortly.

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/HbDczsR.jpg

[SAUTO]

And he formed and made all the metal from halfway down. It had huge rust holes in it.

2 full years work.

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/qflA4rG.jpg

[SAUTO]

The hood wasn't latched all the way in that last pic. I didn't want to slam it down so I let him do it

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/H0a2X6u.jpg

[SAUTO]

So a couple of weeks ago I take off a little early and go to the old man bar, you know the one where all the retired guys go during the day and then roll out at 5 like they are clocking out. Well except when I show up, then they all stay till 7.

So this old guy asks me if I would be willing to drive 15 miles to his place and look at this old car that has been sitting in his little building. I say yes. A week or so later I go out there and this little old building is brand fucking new and had a 15 vette with 308 miles, a 15 escalade with 990, a really nice 91 dodge short bed, a 38 Ford i think, a 41 Ford with an ls2, a54 chev pu, a 54 Ford convertible, a 67 gto, a 28 5 window ford

I might be forgetting something. But they were all bad ass cars.

He tried to talk us into cleaning a couple up and taking them to magic Dragon but it was the next day lol.

I'll post some pics later

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/oY1PDdh.jpg

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/bpUxiUW.jpg

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/AxmK2RS.jpg

[SAUTO]

http://imgur.com/9ubERtU
http://imgur.com/BmpUqZR
http://imgur.com/vnQw1fA
http://imgur.com/WpYeH9O

[lewdog]

Nice cars.

Your picture taking skills have not improved, however.

[SAUTO]

Nice cars.

Your picture taking skills have not improved, however.

I try not to get too much. No plates for sure.

Plus they were all lined up, it's tough to get a good side view, and on the packard it was crazy bright outside.

But yeah it's not one of my skills

[lewdog]

I try not to get too much. No plates for sure.

Plus they were all lined up, it's tough to get a good side view, and on the packard it was crazy bright outside.

But yeah it's not one of my skills

Just pitching you shit.

So you didn't know this guy at all? I thought you lived in a pretty small town. Pretty awesome he had all those in his garage.

[SAUTO]

Just pitching you shit.

So you didn't know this guy at all? I thought you lived in a pretty small town. Pretty awesome he had all those in his garage.

I just knew him in passing from there. We all sit there and shoot the shit. Come to find out he owns a company in kck not far from where I grew up. We've gotten to be buddies. He stops by the shop on his way to "work" most days lol

Town has 2700 some odd people, but there's probably 20k in the surrounding lake resorts. Some are dumps and some have multi million dollar homes.

[Marcellus]

http://imgur.com/9ubERtU
http://imgur.com/BmpUqZR
http://imgur.com/vnQw1fA
http://imgur.com/WpYeH9O

Sweet.

[Perineum Ripper]

Shit Jason I'm going to have to ride the bike down and just start hanging out with you so I can see all these cool cars

[DJ's left nut]

I just knew him in passing from there. We all sit there and shoot the shit. Come to find out he owns a company in kck not far from where I grew up. We've gotten to be buddies. He stops by the shop on his way to "work" most days lol

Town has 2700 some odd people, but there's probably 20k in the surrounding lake resorts. Some are dumps and some have multi million dollar homes.

There's a place in Braymer, Mo like that (or at least there used to be).

The guy bought an old general store or something like that on the corner and used the loading docks to put a dozen nice old cars in there. He was an out of towner so he was never even there. Nobody ever saw the cars out and nobody really ever saw anyone go in. It was just this old building in the middle of an old-school town square with a bunch of nice cars in it that sat there collecting dust.

Weird stories like that abound. If every classic car that people had squirreled away hit the market at once, you could probably get one of them for the price of a used corolla. There are a shitload more of these high-end classics sitting around than we realize.

[SAUTO]

There's a place in Braymer, Mo like that (or at least there used to be).

The guy bought an old general store or something like that on the corner and used the loading docks to put a dozen nice old cars in there. He was an out of towner so he was never even there. Nobody ever saw the cars out and nobody really ever saw anyone go in. It was just this old building in the middle of an old-school town square with a bunch of nice cars in it that sat there collecting dust.

Weird stories like that abound. If every classic car that people had squirreled away hit the market at once, you could probably get one of them for the price of a used corolla. There are a shitload more of these high-end classics sitting around than we realize.

a couple of them still had the sales slips hanging from the rearview mirrors. they had only been moved from the hauler to the building.

he just left here and told me again to come out and drive them any time i want. even gave me keys to the building and a money bag with keys to all the cars in it.:eek:

[DJ's left nut]

a couple of them still had the sales slips hanging from the rearview mirrors. they had only been moved from the hauler to the building.

he just left here and told me again to come out and drive them any time i want. even gave me keys to the building and a money bag with keys to all the cars in it.:eek:

You sucked his dick, didn't you?

Because it's okay if you did. Nobody would judge you.

[SAUTO]

You sucked his dick, didn't you?

Because it's okay if you did. Nobody would judge you.
No. I'm just a likeable guy.

[Buehler445]

You sucked his dick, didn't you?

Because it's okay if you did. Nobody would judge you.

ROFL

[Dayze]

No. I'm just a likeable guy.

likely story.

NTTAWWT.

[SAUTO]

likely story.

NTTAWWT.

all he would have had to do was ask. he didnt. my gain

[SAUTO]

ROFL

This didn't look right. Is it?http://i.imgur.com/r0vtnIY.jpg

[Buehler445]

This didn't look right. Is it?http://i.imgur.com/r0vtnIY.jpg

For what? That's an old ass terragator.

[SAUTO]

For what? That's an old ass terragator.

That front tire is backwards isn't it?

[SAUTO]

Home made avalanche http://i.imgur.com/xGnnWoX.jpg

[Buehler445]

That front tire is backwards isn't it?

It's not a drive wheel. Doesn't matter much. Some guys (mistakenly) think it kicks up less dust. It could be intentional but someone is likely an idiot.

Last year I bought 2 new tires on my sprayer and they put one of them on backwards. I wasn't a cock about it but I made them fix it. All 4 turn on my rig.

[Buehler445]

Home made avalanche http://i.imgur.com/xGnnWoX.jpg

Some one here did that to a OJ type bronco. Then rattle canned it purple.

[SAUTO]

It's not a drive wheel. Doesn't matter much. Some guys (mistakenly) think it kicks up less dust. It could be intentional but someone is likely an idiot.

Last year I bought 2 new tires on my sprayer and they put one of them on backwards. I wasn't a cock about it but I made them fix it. All 4 turn on my rig.

He looked like an idiot.

[Buehler445]

He looked like an idiot.

I'd say that's your answer. ROFL

[SAUTO]

I'd say that's your answer. ROFL

I mean, he drove that thing through the town we were in and to the gas station to get a soda...

[Coach]

Need some thoughts.

I am wanting to make my 2013 Charger RT a little more, how do I say this, angry?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, how can I get a little more deep rumbling sound, yet not excessive loud? Everything on the car I have is originally factory, so other than tinting the windows, there has been no modifications done.

Does it need a cold air intake and/or a improved muffler/exhaust system?

Thanks in advance.

[Buehler445]

I mean, he drove that thing through the town we were in and to the gas station to get a soda...

Well played douche. That soda is mission critical!!!

[Baby Lee]

Need some thoughts.

I am wanting to make my 2013 Charger RT a little more, how do I say this, angry?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, how can I get a little more deep rumbling sound, yet not excessive loud? Everything on the car I have is originally factory, so other than tinting the windows, there has been no modifications done.

Does it need a cold air intake and/or a improved muffler/exhaust system?

Thanks in advance.

Unless you also want Turbo whine, the sound is going to come exclusively from your exhaust components and configuration. [that's why it's known as exhaust note]

CAI won't affect exhaust note. Some report a slight uptick in engine bay airflow noise, but that doesn't sound like what you're looking for.

The google term you're looking for is 'catback' which denotes the exhaust components from your catalytic converter [which must remain by law] to the back of your vehicle [pipes, mufflers and tips]. Use that with your make and model and you should get some youtube hits to listen to.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bA7PTeDgxVM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Not cheap though.

[bigjosh]

Need some thoughts.

I am wanting to make my 2013 Charger RT a little more, how do I say this, angry?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, how can I get a little more deep rumbling sound, yet not excessive loud? Everything on the car I have is originally factory, so other than tinting the windows, there has been no modifications done.

Does it need a cold air intake and/or a improved muffler/exhaust system?

Thanks in advance.
Look for an axleback exhaust. Catback will be louder and have better flow, but an axleback is better if you are just looking for a little more rumble. If you want a tiny bit of performance benefits, and dont mind it being loud go with a full cat back.

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[tmax63]

He looked like an idiot.

I have seen it done where a drive tire was put backwards on an ag vehicle with the idea that you get stuck a little quicker but you have enough more traction in reverse to back out. Can't say I ever saw proof that it worked either way but there was a "method to his madness"

[SAUTO]

On another note the wife has been wanting a new car.

I've been looking at the 2017 chevrolet ss. The last of the line, 6.2 6 speed rwd 415 hp.

Going to drive an automatic tomorrow because it's closer but we are leaning manual

[SAUTO]

http://i.imgur.com/0fvtlyd.jpg

[Bearcat]

On another note the wife has been wanting a new car.

I've been looking at the 2017 chevrolet ss. The last of the line, 6.2 6 speed rwd 415 hp.

Going to drive an automatic tomorrow because it's closer but we are leaning manual

Might as well go German for that price.

[SAUTO]

Might as well go German for that price.

Lol, I just don't know if I have it in me...

[SAUTO]

And right now i can buy a brand new one with everything for under 40k...

[Bearcat]

Lol, I just don't know if I have it in me...

I drove a Monte Carlo SS for 10 years, so I considered the SS... it's just a weird price point for Chevy. The Monte was under $30k, as is a Camaro of course.... and I personally didn't want the 2 extra doors.

And right now i can buy a brand new one with everything for under 40k...

Nice... well, in that case it would probably be naturally aspirated vs a 4 cylinder turbo. I test drove a 328i and the turbo lag was too much... floor the gas at 50mph, take a drink, wait for shit to kick in.

[SAUTO]

Yeah we need the extra doors, and I'm a v8 guy lol. I think I can buy the exact car I pictured for 38,900. Seems they have been dealing on then since they were discontinued. Last one was made last month.

[Marcellus]

http://i.imgur.com/0fvtlyd.jpg

Now thats a nice fucking grocery getter.

[Bearcat]

Yeah we need the extra doors, and I'm a v8 guy lol. I think I can buy the exact car I pictured for 38,900. Seems they have been dealing on then since they were discontinued. Last one was made last month.

I have an inline 6, which gets about 28mpg on the highway and can still kick your ass. :D

I do miss the rumble of a v8 though.

Looks like a good deal... there's something nice about driving an unassuming car with 450hp under the hood.

[SAUTO]

The wheels would have to go soon.

[SAUTO]

I wish she had said something 6 weeks ago, they were 20 percent off...

[Buehler445]

That looks hot Jason.

I always wanted a G8 or a new style GTO. This loooks like the next iteration. Get it done.

[hometeam]

Might as well go German for that price.

German isnt LS.

LS is really all that matters. Those SSes are awesome though I like the way g8s look a little better.

[Buehler445]

The wheels would have to go soon.

They're better than the ones your pickup came with :D

[SAUTO]

I have an inline 6, which gets about 28mpg on the highway and can still kick your ass. :D

I do miss the rumble of a v8 though.

Looks like a good deal... there's something nice about driving an unassuming car with 450hp under the hood.

Yeah, it's not something everyone would recognize. And I'm sure a tune will REALLY open her up.

[SAUTO]

That looks hot Jason.

I always wanted a G8 or a new style GTO. This loooks like the next iteration. Get it done.

This is it. The last of the line. Discontinued the model.

[SAUTO]

They're better than the ones your pickup came with :D

They are, she's already on the look out for something else and we haven't even bought it.

[Marcellus]

They are, she's already on the look out for something else and we haven't even bought it.

Sounds like you have. :D

[SAUTO]

Sounds like you have. :D

I found a demo that has 1220 miles on it for under 34k. But it's almost 700 miles away.

It's exactly what I want though so I left one of their sales men a message. I.would expect to hear from them first thing in the morning.

I'm still going to drive the automatic tomorrow though lol