***** 2017 Chiefs Training Camp Megathread *****

[O.city]

It would be absolutely ****ing stupid for the Chiefs trade Smith this season.

Not only has Rothlisberger been injured and on the verge of retiring, Brady is 40 years old. Brady missed 4 games last year. He didn't play 19, he played 15.

That's HUGE.

They won't trade Smith

But if the phins offered up like a 1st or something crazy, they eoild

[DaneMcCloud]

Hi Carl!

Carl never signed or drafted a QB that had even close to a 43-21 record

[DaneMcCloud]

They won't trade Smith

But if the phins offered up like a 1st or something crazy, they eoild

Nah.

He's not expendable to make room for a guy like Wentz, who I loved, BTW, let alone, Mahomes.

Mahomes ceiling is higher than Wentz but his floor is WAY lower.

That's not the move.

[Reerun_KC]

Carl never signed or drafted a QB that had even close to a 43-21 record

In Hard knocks he always sId he wanted the QB that "gave them the best chance to win now"...

Wanted Down field BigGame over Brokie....

[Chiefshrink]

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Dolphins fear Ryan Tannehill will need season-ending knee surgery, but no decision on it has been made, sources tell @JeffDarlington and me.

Hey there is no structural damage ! What gives ? Oh his knee !!:D

Maybe NFL Dr. McCloud can fill us in on all things NFL knee injuries. Paging Dr. McCloud ! Paging Dr. McCloud !!!:rolleyes:

[O.city]

Nah.

He's not expendable to make room for a guy like Wentz, who I loved, BTW.

Mahomes ceiling is higher than Wentz but his floor is WAY lower.

That's not the move.

If you could recoop the pick you gave up for Mahomes, you'd have to do it.

There's no chance in hell the dolphins would do that with smiths price tag contractually I doubt

Mahomes isn't ready but andy could hide him for a while til he was. But in the end it doesn't matter so we're kind of blowing smoke here

[Chiefshrink]

He's not expendable to make room for a guy like Wentz, who I loved, BTW.


Of course you did !!:rolleyes:

[Reerun_KC]

If you could recoop the pick you gave up for Mahomes, you'd have to do it.

There's no chance in hell the dolphins would do that with smiths price tag contractually I doubt

Probably not. But it's fun to wish. U loading Smith Nd recouping that 1st round pick for next year. Dream scenario...

[KChiefs1]

Yeah



Plus as much as we don't like it, it won't hurt Mahomes to watch smith for a year. He's not ready


True...that's why even if the Dolphins offered a 1st I'd have to really think about it.

[DaneMcCloud]

If you could recoop the pick you gave up for Mahomes, you'd have to do it.

There's no chance in hell the dolphins would do that with smiths price tag contractually I doubt

Nope.

This team, as it stands, is built for the AFC Championship Game.

There is no way Clark approves that move.

None.

[O.city]

True...that's why even if the Dolphins offered a 1st I'd have to really think about it.

For a first round pick I wouldn't think about it for a second. It'd be done

[Reerun_KC]

Nope.

This team, as it stands, is built for the AFC Championship Game.

There is no way Clark approves that move.

None.

So afccg huh? :hmmm:.

[DaneMcCloud]

True...that's why even if the Dolphins offered a 1st I'd have to really think about it.

Why?

For an unknown college player?

You're going to risk the playoffs and an AFC Championship for that guy?

Which guy, again?

[O.city]

Nope.

This team, as it stands, is built for the AFC Championship Game.

There is no way Clark approves that move.

None.

If they really felt that way, I don't think they'd have traded up for the future qb. They'd have gone for the win now ILB or something I'd think.

I would think they feel they're a good team but for a first round pick, they'd do it

[DaneMcCloud]

For a first round pick I wouldn't think about it for a second. It'd be done

Dumb as fuck.

[DaneMcCloud]

If they really felt that way, I don't think they'd have traded up for the future qb. They'd have gone for the win now ILB or something I'd think.

I would think they feel they're a good team but for a first round pick, they'd do it

Helium must be a powerful drug

[O.city]

Helium must be a powerful drug

It's good for blowing up balloons I suppose

[Why Not?]

1st round pick and Matt Moore, sure. Mahomes should not play this year with the exception of wrap up or mop up

And no way the Chiefs would think about trading Alex this late in the year.

[Red Dawg]

Trade Smith during camp for damn draft picks? Good lord that would be stupid.

[Chiefshrink]

There is no way Clark approves that move.

None.

How do you know ? Oh I forgot you are in Clark's inner circle. How could I forget !!:rolleyes:

[crazycoffey]

I'm trying to get my videos as one video on YouTube to share; they're mostly PMII. But a big note from camp - I saw Conley stepping up his leadership role. Talking to other WRs after they dropped a pass, or apparently didn't run the route "right". He even stayed after with PMII, the 4th QB and another young WR. He was coaching up the other WR while the linemen were doing autographs. I really hope he has a good year.

Other than that, more of what Bosschief was saying, DJ was noticeable, Houston and ford were strong on some line drills. Hill is impressive, etc

[DaneMcCloud]

How do you know ? Oh I forgot you are in Clark's inner circle. How could I forget !!:rolleyes:
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[Chiefshrink]

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Look in the mirror "Barney Fife" !! Your narcissism is just outrageous !!:shrug:

[Reerun_KC]

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Dude!! Duck season is just a few months away!!!

[Hammock Parties]

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Where did you get this photo of an Alex Smith deep ball?

[Why Not?]

Where did you get this photo of an Alex Smith deep ball?

Bahahhaha. I don't care who you are, that's funny.

[Reerun_KC]

Where did you get this photo of an Alex Smith deep ball?

I disagree here. He can throw a nice deep ball and is fairly accurate as well.

If he stops playing scared and plays like a man that has a pair of nuts, he can take this team far.

Let's just hope this two non concussios are s thing of the past. This is his last shot, legit shot to be a championship qB...

[penbrook]

I disagree here. He can throw a nice deep ball and is fairly accurate as well.

If he stops playing scared and plays like a man that has a pair of nuts, he can take this team far.

Let's just hope this two non concussios are s thing of the past. This is his last shot, legit shot to be a championship qB...

This. It's time for him to man up or be the next QB of the Jags

[stumppy]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WrUSwe-xJWQ/maxresdefault.jpg

Is that duck trying to say something ?

[Reerun_KC]

Is that duck trying to say something ?

Don't shoot me and grill me Reerun!

[stumppy]

Don't shoot me and grill me Reerun!

ROFL

Damn duck hunters.

[Reerun_KC]

ROFL

Damn duck hunters.

:D

Have some great recipes for those tasty little bastards!

[BlackOp]

If they really felt that way, I don't think they'd have traded up for the future qb. They'd have gone for the win now ILB or something I'd think.

I would think they feel they're a good team but for a first round pick, they'd do it

You really think KC would trade Smith, a week into camp, for a 1st round pick? Then start a rookie QB that knows about 1/10th of the playbook? Have him play his first ever game on the road against the Patriots...on National TV.

Dude...that has less than a zero chance of ever happening. Wow...

[pugsnotdrugs19]

The entire reason why people were saying we were the perfect fit for Mahomes was because we could provide the environment and set-up that he needs. No need to mess with that.

As Louis Riddick and Jon Gruden said, give the kid one year to focus on learning the ins and outs of this league. Let him go out there in 2018 with full confidence in his knowledge of the playbook and his checks/progressions. Let Mahomes go out there with the confidence to just play ball.

Trading Alex would let all of that burn up into smoke. There is no way Reid or Veach are considering that.

[BlackOp]

There is no way Reid or Veach are considering that.

That is an understatement...there is a strong chance Smith is here next year too. Depends on how the season plays out...and where Mahomes is.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

That is an understatement...there is a strong chance Smith is here next year too. Depends on how the season plays out...and where Mahomes is.

Well, let's not get carried away here... the odds of Smith being here past 2017 are quite slim. But Mahomes does need developmental time, and that is what 2017 should be, ideally.

[penbrook]

That is an understatement...there is a strong chance Smith is here next year too. Depends on how the season plays out...and where Mahomes is.

Smith wins a super bowl with the Chiefs he will be here for however long he wants. People want Mahomes to play because he gives you that deep threat. I guarantee if Smith somehow grows a pair this year and throws deep everyone will want him here for awhile

[Coach]

That is an understatement...there is a strong chance Smith is here next year too. Depends on how the season plays out...and where Mahomes is.

I can't see that happening, especially with the Chiefs currently have very little cap space, and they don't have to deal with dead money by keeping Smith next year, freeing up a pretty good chunk of change.

Economics will most likely win out here.

[BigCatDaddy]

That is an understatement...there is a strong chance Smith is here next year too. Depends on how the season plays out...and where Mahomes is.

Strong? LMAO

[penbrook]

Strong? LMAO

If Smitty wins a super bowl he's coming back

[rico]

If Smitty wins a super bowl he's coming back

So.... strong??!?!?

ROFL

[BlackOp]

So.... strong??!?!?

ROFL

Yeah, history is against KC..no doubt..but to act like they are the Browns with no shot isn't accurate either. They seem to beat the SB representative every year...both in 2014. Broncos in 2015 and Falcons last year.

NFL just gave KC 6 national games...that means, for what ever reason, they want them seen.

Chiefs have always been one or two plays away...refs have played a big part in that.

[BigCatDaddy]

If Smitty wins a super bowl he's coming back

If.he wins a SB it will be from the sidelines.

[penbrook]

I guarantee Mahomes won't have the record whenever he starts through his first 4 seasons that Smith has. Smitty is a proven winner. He's won in San Fran and has won in KC. He was a Kyle Williams fumble away from a super bowl. He forced that game into overtime. I don't care if you hate Smitty or not but he always plays his best in the playoffs. It's not his fault Bell ran for 178 yards on the Chiefs last playoff game.

[Hammock Parties]

I guarantee Mahomes won't have the record whenever he starts through his first 4 seasons that Smith has.

Alex Smith was 11-19 his first four seasons.

Nice try.

[BlackOp]

Alex Smith was 11-19 his first four seasons.

Nice try.

That's a disingenuous response.

He was speaking in relation to the Chiefs..not careers. Its a legitimate point...

KC has a new GM...if this season, KC gets to the AFCC game...do you cut the QB? That's a hard sell...

[ChiefGator]

...do you cut the QB? That's a hard sell...

Hard sell to whom exactly?

If Mahomes is looking better than Smith, it will be obvious to the entire team. And teams are used to change each year anyway.

[Nickhead]

Alex Smith was 11-19 his first four seasons.

Nice try.

aaron rodgers first completion was for zero yards :D

[Rasputin]

Good morning wood

[RealSNR]

That's a disingenuous response.

He was speaking in relation to the Chiefs..not careers. Its a legitimate point...

KC has a new GM...if this season, KC gets to the AFCC game...do you cut the QB? That's a hard sell...

http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/BS-sp-super-bowl-2.jpg

[rico]

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[Rasputin]

This is cool as fuck. Glad to be here.

[Rasputin]

Tyreek practice fielding punts

[ptlyon]

I can't see that happening, especially with the Chiefs currently have very little cap space, and they don't have to deal with dead money by keeping Smith next year, freeing up a pretty good chunk of change.

Economics will most likely win out here.

Zactly

[Rasputin]

Tackling 🍩 drill was Awesomeness

[Coogs]

We gave up two 2nd rounders to have Alex for 4 years.

Now it probably is not going to happen, but IF Miami offers up a 1st, would Veach pass it up? Could be Veaches biggest decision of his entire career right out of the gate.

Two 2nds AND a 1st for 5 years of Alex.

[ptlyon]

We gave up two 2nd rounders to have Alex for 4 years.

Now it probably is not going to happen, but IF Miami offers up a 1st, would Veach pass it up? Could be Veaches biggest decision of his entire career right out of the gate.

Two 2nds AND a 1st for 5 years of Alex.

Are you referring to this year or next year? Assuming next.

[Titty Meat]

It would be absolutely ****ing stupid for the Chiefs trade Smith this season.

Not only has Rothlisberger been injured and on the verge of retiring, Brady is 40 years old. Brady missed 4 games last year. He didn't play 19, he played 15.

That's HUGE.

I think you and I view this team differently. I don't see them as a contender maybe a playoff team. I get why they won'trade Smith with what they currently have they'd risk going 6-10 and they all have jobs to keep unlike everyone on here they would get fired making huge risky decisions that backfire.

[Coogs]

Are you referring to this year or next year? Assuming next.

Sorry, not trying to derail the thread. Just got in late to last nights discussion. Guys were discussing Miami maybe offering a 1st in next years draft for Smith.

[BossChief]

Look who's working on sideline...

[ptlyon]

Sorry, not trying to derail the thread. Just got in late to last nights discussion. Guys were discussing Miami maybe offering a 1st in next years draft for Smith.

Don't want to derail the thread either, but that will never happen. Everyone knows our cap hit, so offering so much would be a stretch at best.

"They'll never go for it! Then again they might, little red devils."

[Coogs]

Don't want to derail the thread either, but that will never happen. Everyone knows our cap hit, so offering so much would be a stretch at best.

"They'll never go for it! Then again they might, little red devils."

I thought I read a few days ago that a trade... now... of Alex would free up nearly 10 million right away. 7 million in dead money, 10 million in cap space.

[ptlyon]

I thought I read a few days ago that a trade... now... of Alex would free up nearly 10 million right away. 7 million in dead money, 10 million in cap space.

Oh ok, you did mean this year, as in "pack your shit and get ready for the beach".

Was thinking you meant after the season was over. Sorry.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I guarantee Mahomes won't have the record whenever he starts through his first 4 seasons that Smith has. Smitty is a proven winner. He's won in San Fran and has won in KC. He was a Kyle Williams fumble away from a super bowl. He forced that game into overtime. I don't care if you hate Smitty or not but he always plays his best in the playoffs. It's not his fault Bell ran for 178 yards on the Chiefs last playoff game.

I don't care if we win only 9 or 10 games and make the playoffs, I want a QB who makes me feel like we actually have a chance to make a playoff run. Not a game manager who needs everything around him to go perfectly for 3-4 straight games against good teams.

Plain and simple.

[BossChief]

Mahomes is on the money today

[Coogs]

Oh ok, you did mean this year, as in "pack your shit and get ready for the beach".

Was thinking you meant after the season was over. Sorry.

Sorry I wasn't clear. Tannyhill went down yesterday. Guys here last night were discussing if Miami would do like Minnesota did last year when they got Bradford right around this point in training camp.

[O.city]

West hurt again

[penbrook]

Justin McLuckie @m_c_luckie
Seantavius Jones beats Marcus Peters deep while losing a shoe in 1 on 1s. Got a nice reaction from the crowd. #ChiefsCamp

[penbrook]

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
#Chiefs safety Eric Murray undercuts a crosser in 1-on-1's and picks off the Patrick Mahomes' pass.

[O.city]

Kelce not practicing?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
#Chiefs safety Eric Murray undercuts a crosser in 1-on-1's and picks off the Patrick Mahomes' pass.

If you aren't going to post everything, don't post anything. Trying to force an agenda.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smith misses badly on a deep post to DeMarcus Robinson, then underthrows Seantavius Jones. Rough series. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/893474973947482113">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Smith INT in 7 on 7. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/893470625926459392">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[penbrook]

Pete Sweeney @pgsween
This (eventual) front five of Bailey-Logan-Jones-Houston-Ford will rival any team's in the league. Book it.

[penbrook]

If you aren't going to post everything, don't post anything. Trying to force an agenda.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smith misses badly on a deep post to DeMarcus Robinson, then underthrows Seantavius Jones. Rough series. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/893474973947482113">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Smith INT in 7 on 7. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/893470625926459392">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is someone upset that there boy Mahomes threw a pick?

[Coogs]

If you aren't going to post everything, don't post anything. Trying to force an agenda.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smith misses badly on a deep post to DeMarcus Robinson, then underthrows Seantavius Jones. Rough series. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/893474973947482113">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Smith INT in 7 on 7. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/893470625926459392">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Alex had a rough day yesterday too. I'm guessing we are getting close to Alex being Alex. Check it down, high completion percent, low INT's.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Is someone upset that there boy Mahomes threw a pick?

No, you dumbass. I don't like that you casually post the tweet about Mahomes throwing a pick (in 1-on-1s :rolleyes:), and completely ignore the tweets about Alex's subpar day.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Escobar. Dart. TD. Crowd loved that one.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/893480757188079617">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shovel pass from Smith to Demetrius Harris for the TD in Redzone work.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/893481969086083072">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Buckweath]

No, you dumbass. I don't like that you casually post the tweet about Mahomes throwing a pick (in 1-on-1s :rolleyes:), and completely ignore the tweets about Alex's subpar day.

? We already know what we have with Alex Smith. We are discovering Mahomes.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes scrambles around in the pocket. Till he finds a window. Orson Charles flashes and Mahomes hits him with a good throw for TD</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/893482894886412288">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BossChief]

Mahomes scored on every opportunity in the red zone.

I got a nice vid of one of them right in front of us.

[bigjosh]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/RadioWyatt">@RadioWyatt</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HeadtoHeadRadio">@HeadtoHeadRadio</a> <br>Matt you&#39;ll like this one, nice. <a href="https://t.co/wdM7lfxHqL">pic.twitter.com/wdM7lfxHqL</a></p>&mdash; Level 4 Sports (@andrehardiman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrehardiman1/status/893480993805533184">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Red zone. Alex Smith to Tyreek Hill. TD. Split Peters/Berry.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/893484643772715009">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[The Franchise]

I guarantee Mahomes won't have the record whenever he starts through his first 4 seasons that Smith has. Smitty is a proven winner. He's won in San Fran and has won in KC. He was a Kyle Williams fumble away from a super bowl. He forced that game into overtime. I don't care if you hate Smitty or not but he always plays his best in the playoffs. It's not his fault Bell ran for 178 yards on the Chiefs last playoff game.

Exhibit #1 of why people hate Alex Smith fanbois.

All he does is win! Unless he doesn't win....and then it's not his fault.

It's either a team victory and loss.....or it's all on one person. If you give the win to Smith for the Chargers game in Week 1.....then he takes the loss for the Bucs game because of his INT.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/HeadtoHeadRadio">@HeadtoHeadRadio</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RadioWyatt">@RadioWyatt</a> <br>I think Chiefs fans will like this look as well, red zone, Mahomes shined. <a href="https://t.co/1D3qDfun5q">pic.twitter.com/1D3qDfun5q</a></p>&mdash; Level 4 Sports (@andrehardiman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrehardiman1/status/893483489106046977">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes scrambling around to find someone. Spots Jehu Chessonin the back corner for a TD. All alone.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/893489884698099712">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes' scrambling seems to be opening a lot windows in the RZ.

[bigjosh]

i cant wait to see mahomes next friday.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smith connects with Ty Hill on a deep post route in 9 on 7. Hill can really track it and Smith trusts him</p>&mdash; TerezA. Paylor(@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/893490353956831233">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Rasputin]

Alex with deep ball to tyreek. It was nice to see

[Halfcan]

Terez A. Paylor ✔ @TerezPaylor
Josh Mauga is walking off the field. Looks like he's headed back to the locker room.

Mauga was actually running full speed- it just looked like he was walking.

I will be surprised if he makes the team.

[Robm]

Should the Chiefs see if the Dolphins are desperate enough to trade a good off for Smith and move forward with Mahomes if KC likes the offer?

[The Franchise]

Should the Chiefs see if the Dolphins are desperate enough to trade a good off for Smith and move forward with Mahomes if KC likes the offer?

It's not happening.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s another rep from Mahomes. <a href="https://t.co/iYYiE2YGRX">pic.twitter.com/iYYiE2YGRX</a></p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/893492989405822977">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Titty Meat]

Kelce not practicing?

AP said he hasn't practiced all camp. Dunno if that's true.

[Rasputin]

I haven't seen Kelce out here that's disappointing

[pugsnotdrugs19]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Mahomes has one weakness right now, it&#39;s identifying zone coverages. Lot of his PBU &amp; picks come from LB/S he doesn&#39;t pick up yet.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/893493251826757632">August 4, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Rasputin]

Good coverage Mahomes rolls out and improvised side arm but was just short of receiver but it was cool

[prhom]

AP said he hasn't practiced all camp. Dunno if that's true.

I'm pretty certain I've seen his name mentioned making a few plays, but maybe that's wishful thinking. I thought he had been practicing before today.

[Rasputin]

Tyreek such a weapon when he is in the line up the defense butt cheeks pucker

[Rasputin]

Patrick with a miss but the velocity was incredible. He then completed two in a row

[ModSocks]

AP said he hasn't practiced all camp. Dunno if that's true.

That's not true. There was a play (and picture) earlier this camp of Berry breaking up a pass to Kelce. So he's been out there. Maybe not a lot, but he's been out there at some point.

[Rasputin]

Alex not so good on couple plays

[Rasputin]

MVP with coffin corner punt. Indevidual drill

[Shag]

I guarantee Mahomes won't have the record whenever he starts through his first 4 seasons that Smith has. Smitty is a proven winner. He's won in San Fran and has won in KC. He was a Kyle Williams fumble away from a super bowl. He forced that game into overtime. I don't care if you hate Smitty or not but he always plays his best in the playoffs. It's not his fault Bell ran for 178 yards on the Chiefs last playoff game.

ROFL Is it also not his fault the Chiefs only scored 16 points? And that they lost to a team in the playoffs that didn't score a TD? Or that he only threw for 172yds? Or this?

https://i.redd.it/m1nxd4dxd6ay.gif

[Rasputin]

#4 muffed punt. MVP is is looking midseason form

[Rasputin]

#4 caught that one.

[RunKC]

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This is one of the hardest parts about being QB. Identifying blitzes and coverages from the defense can be very difficult.

It's the reason why Carr has sucked against us. We always confuse him.

[penbrook]

Smith actually trusts Hill with the deep ball. Great sign. Also Harris hasn't dropped a pass yet this camp. He wants to make the team

Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor
Demetrius Harris is quietly having a great camp. Haven't seen him drop a pass. It's like he turned off the "drops open passes" Madden trait.
8:19 AM · Aug 4, 2017

[penbrook]

Seantavious Jones will make the team. When you're making plays against Peters you are doing something right

[saphojunkie]

I'm pretty certain I've seen his name mentioned making a few plays, but maybe that's wishful thinking. I thought he had been practicing before today.

Kelce has 100% practiced, as I saw him catch a long pass down the right sideline from Alex.

[NJChiefsFan]

Smith actually trusts Hill with the deep ball. Great sign. Also Harris hasn't dropped a pass yet this camp. He wants to make the team

Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor
Demetrius Harris is quietly having a great camp. Haven't seen him drop a pass. It's like he turned off the "drops open passes" Madden trait.
8:19 AM · Aug 4, 2017

In one of the most important Chiefs games of the last 25 years last year that simply was not true. I'm gonna need game evidence before I believe a drop of that.

[prhom]

Seantavious Jones will make the team. When you're making plays against Peters you are doing something right

Could this mean the end of Albert Wilson as a Chief?!

[saphojunkie]

The Chiefs trading Alex Smith in training camp this year might be the greatest thing I'd ever seen.

[Rasputin]

Could this mean the end of Albert Wilson as a Chief?!

Albert Wilson made a great catch with tight coverage. I thought he made nice plays today. Not bad at all.

[Rasputin]

This was definitely fun and worth the trip going do this every year.

Afraid it's going rain tomorrow and go indoors. So I may just go to KC for some BBQ and then probably go home.

[prhom]

Albert Wilson made a great catch with tight coverage. I thought he made nice plays today. Not bad at all.

He's made some nice plays for us during his time here but we should have been able to find someone who has better hands and determination by now.

[Hammock Parties]

65 degree weather for practice tomorrow. Can't wait.

[LoneWolf]

65 degree weather for practice tomorrow. Can't wait.

Bring a rain coat.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This is one of the hardest parts about being QB. Identifying blitzes and coverages from the defense can be very difficult.

It's the reason why Carr has sucked against us. We always confuse him.

As is to be expected when jumping from college to the NFL. It's the exact reason why Mahomes needs to sit right now and learn. We'll let the kid see more and more each day on the scout team against a top 5 defense.

[Hammock Parties]

Bring a rain coat.

The forecast looks like the rain won't start until 10 so I think it should be OK.

[Rasputin]

65 degree weather for practice tomorrow. Can't wait.

Is it going rain?

[LoneWolf]

The forecast looks like the rain won't start until 10 so I think it should be OK.

I hope you're right. Can you give us an update on how Mahomes is looking? I haven't seen many reports on his play so far. :)

[RunKC]

Charc West being in the tent injured does not bode well for him. Spiller is having a great camp

[Rasputin]

I hope you're right. Can you give us an update on how Mahomes is looking? I haven't seen many reports on his play so far. :)

His velocity on throws are impressive.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Charc West being in the tent injured does not bode well for him. Spiller is having a great camp

I'd keep all 4 if Spiller looks good.

[raybec 4]

Montori Hughes got cut today, our D line is doomed.

[ptlyon]

In one of the most important Chiefs games of the last 25 years last year that simply was not true. I'm gonna need game evidence before I believe a drop of that.

I think what penbrook meant was that Smith trusts Hill to go balls deep. Right penbrook?

[Rasputin]

I'd nickname Tyreek The Flash. He will make Super Hero plays.

[Marcellus]

If Smitty wins a super bowl he's coming back

LMAO

No shit? Who is going to be pissed if they keep Smith for another year if KC wins the SB?

:facepalm:

Capt Obvious.

[RunKC]

I'd keep all 4 if Spiller looks good.

I agree. Would love to see Tyreek and Spiller in the backfield in specialized plays. Maybe run some pistol.

2 sub 4.3 guys

[SAUTO]

It would be absolutely fucking stupid for the Chiefs trade Smith this season.

Not only has Rothlisberger been injured and on the verge of retiring, Brady is 40 years old. Brady missed 4 games last year. He didn't play 19, he played 15.

That's HUGE.
He was suspended i thought. I wouldn't count on that happening again

[penbrook]

LMAO

No shit? Who is going to be pissed if they keep Smith for another year if KC wins the SB?

:facepalm:

Capt Obvious.

Most of CP wants Smitty gone regardless if he wins the super bowl or not

[Marcellus]

Most of CP wants Smitty gone regardless if he wins the super bowl or not

Well the thing is, we will never have to worry about having that debate.

[RealSNR]

Well the thing is, we will never have to worry about having that debate.

You don't think Smith's ass is gone next year if Mahomes is ready? Regardless of the outcome of the season?

[RealSNR]

Look who's working on sideline...

New game:

Spot the hilarious red penis in the photo

[ptlyon]

You don't think Smith's ass is gone next year if Mahomes is ready? Regardless of the outcome of the season?

Smith winning the SB was his point

[NJChiefsFan]

Most of CP wants Smitty gone regardless if he wins the super bowl or not

In that hypothetical world I'm all for giving him a sendoff season in 2018.

Speaking of hypothetical situations I don't think the Chiefs trading Smith right now is good short-term for Mahmoes or KC. I would love that 1st round pick back right away but I think making Mahomes earn it is the right thing for the franchise and for him. Less pressure if he earns it vs. being handed it.

Now in a hypothetical world I think there certainly is a point where I trade Smith right now, but I don't think it's realistic that we would get an offer that good. A 1st wouldn't do it in my mind. Now next year that would certainly be enough. Dane pointed out that we could have an even better market for Smith next year.

A little food for thought for the guys that want Smith to fail. It's best for the franchise that Smith stays as is. Gives the roster a chance to play in important games this year while keeping his trade value up. If the FO is as smart as we think and Mahomes progresses, we shouldn't need to see a Smith failure to make a change in 2018.

[Sassy Squatch]

So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

[ptlyon]

So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

Cooler talk. Here, have a beer. Don't cost nuttin.

[penbrook]

So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

It's coder talk. No one outside of CP is saying anything about trading Alex Smith

[Buckweath]

So is there actually talk of us trading Smith for a 1st rounder or is that just cooler talk?

Fans love rumors but let's be real here, there is absolutely no chance that Smith gets traded and I'd say so even if Mahomes looks like Russell Wilson out there in preseason.

[penbrook]

Looks like it may be Cutler to the Dolphins

Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
New. Miami Dolphins have already reached out to Jay Cutler

[BossChief]

It's coder talk. No one outside of CP is saying anything about trading Alex Smith

Wrong

[JakeF]

Is someone upset that there boy Mahomes threw a pick?
I guess it's a board rule if you post anything negative about Mahomes you have to post 2 negative things about Smith.

[penbrook]

This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

[JakeF]

This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down
It's triple fold: Hatred of Smith, excitement about the first 1st rd QB since '83 and passion about the upside about Mahomes' natural ability.

[RunKC]

This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

Until Alex beats a franchise QB in January as a Chief, Alex fans need to shut the hell up about making a SB with him.

[Dayze]

It's triple fold: Hatred of Smith, excitement about the first QB we drafted in the first round since '83 and passion about the upside about Mahomes' nature ability.

https://www.familyeducation.com/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow_image_802x451_/public/collection-item/Little_Boy_Bug_Hunting_H.jpg?itok=4a7t_x8d

[RealSNR]

https://www.familyeducation.com/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow_image_802x451_/public/collection-item/Little_Boy_Bug_Hunting_H.jpg?itok=4a7t_x8d

I picture Alex Smith as the Man Vs. Wild guy, except it isn't more than 5 minutes into the adventure and he goes, "Welp, I need water to survive! Time to start drinking my own urine!" as there's a loud rushing mountain stream like 20 feet away in plain sight

[RunKC]

If Mahomes looks awesome in preseason and the Dolphins offer a first, you take it. We aren't winning a SB with Alex and the 1st would be more valuable.

[Dayze]

I picture Alex Smith as the Man Vs. Wild guy, except it isn't more than 5 minutes into the adventure and he goes, "Welp, I need water to survive! Time to start drinking my own urine!" as there's a loud rushing mountain stream like 20 feet away in plain sight

LMAO LMAO LMAO

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This obsession over Mahomes is ridiculous. Yes he has potential but wait till he plays a game first before people say he's better than Len Dawson. Right now he is the #3 QB. Smith is by far the best QB on the roster and honestly it's not even close. People need to calm down

Who said he was better than Len Dawson? Throwing shit at the wall again? Ah I see.

[penbrook]

Wrong

Please show me where they're saying rumors of smith getting traded. Only CP is saying that

[JakeF]

No obvious errors for Patrick Mahomes II in latest Chiefs practice
2:00 PM CT Adam Teicher ESPN Staff Writer

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- Kansas City Chiefs rookie quarterback Patrick Mahomes II bounced back Friday. A day after throwing an interception in his first competitive practice, Mahomes had no such obvious errors as he completed 10 of 14 passes in full team drills and 8 of 11 in 7-on-7 drills.

Wow moment: Mahomes didn’t have one, though he did fire a touchdown pass to tight end Gavin Escobar. He also was less inclined to force the ball into coverage, as he had been doing at times earlier in camp.

Whoa moment: Mahomes again underestimated the playmaking ability of linebacker Reshard Cliett. Cliett covered a lot of ground to break up a pass during a 7-on-7 drill. Cliett did the same thing against Mahomes in offseason practice and that play resulted in an interception.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Please show me where they're saying rumors of smith getting traded. Only CP is saying that

It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

[ottawa_chiefs_fan]

Well the thing is, we will never have to worry about having that debate.

why do you even watch if you give up before the first pre-season game? Being a fan like that just totally escapes me....why even bother?

[DaneMcCloud]

It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

That was a poll by a local reporter asking if the Chiefs should trade Smith IF Miami offered a 2nd and a 5th.

It's not an actual thing.

Furthermore, Gase and Smith don't seem like a good match.

[sedated]

That was a poll by a local reporter asking if the Chiefs should trade Smith IF Miami offered a 2nd and a 5th.

It's not an actual thing.

I skimmed something on twitter so it must be fact.

[Bewbies]

I skimmed something on twitter so it must be fact.

When you search 'Alex Smith' the first result is 'Alex Smith Dolphins' :D

Now please excuse me. I don't want to rush Mahomes, but the thought of trading Smith has given me wood.

[Reerun_KC]

When you search 'Alex Smith' the first result is 'Alex Smith Dolphins' :D

Now please excuse me. I don't want to rush Mahomes, but the thought of trading Smith has given me wood.

You should consult a Dr if wood becomes long term woodage.

[Red Dawg]

Mahomes will grow to be a bad ass.

[DaneMcCloud]

Smith is a bad fit for Gase's offense.

Osweiler to Miami makes much more sense than Alex Smith.

[JakeF]

Mahomes will grow to be a bad ass.
Good chance, as long as we don't screw it up.

[RealSNR]

It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

No deal. They can pay 2 2nds just like we had to fucking do.

[Discuss Thrower]

No deal. They can pay 2 2nds just like we had to fucking do.

Sam Bradford trade tho..

[Bewbies]

You should consult a Dr if wood becomes long term woodage.

I'll be in the 4 hour range when the rumors become more official. :eek:

[penbrook]

It was up there in the tweets that Miami has offered a 2018 2nd and a conditional for Smith,

No it wasn't!! It was a poll. I didn't know polls were facts now. Was this the same pol that said Hillary Clinton would be president?

[Bewbies]

No it wasn't!! It was a poll. I didn't know polls were facts now. Was this the same pol that said Hillary Clinton would be president?

triggered.

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[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

Best election ever.

[penbrook]

triggered.

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ROFL

[Coogs]

It's coder talk. No one outside of CP is saying anything about trading Alex Smith
I heard a discussion on 610 about this topic a couple of hours ago, so it is not just here.

[Marcellus]

why do you even watch if you give up before the first pre-season game? Being a fan like that just totally escapes me....why even bother?

I spent $400+ and drove 3 hours in freezing rain to watch Smith shit his pants against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Kiss my ass.

[Hammock Parties]

I spent $400+ and drove 3 hours in freezing rain to watch Smith shit his pants against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Kiss my ass.

Nothing like a Chiefs fan scorned.

It warms the cockles of my black heart.

[Pablo]

I spent $400+ and drove 3 hours in freezing rain to watch Smith shit his pants against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Kiss my ass.

Poor bastard. That was not a nice day trip up to KC. I do remember feeling sorry for all the fuckers out there in the stands watching six field goals beat us. Just another day in the life of a Chiefs fan.

[penbrook]

Poor bastard. That was not a nice day trip up to KC. I do remember feeling sorry for all the ****ers out there in the stands watching six field goals beat us. Just another day in the life of a Chiefs fan.

If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

If only we had a QB who could throw to wide open WRs, several times. You can't seriously be this f**king stupid?

[penbrook]

If only we had a QB who could throw to wide open WRs, several times. You can't seriously be this f**king stupid?

You can't put all the blame of Smitty

[pugsnotdrugs19]

You can't put all the blame of Smitty

You can't put all the blame on the run defense when they didn't even allow a touchdown. NOT A DAMN TOUCHDOWN.

[penbrook]

You can't put all the blame on the run defense when they didn't even allow a touchdown. NOT A DAMN TOUCHDOWN.

I'm not putting all the blame on the run D or Smitty. But you can't tell me that the Run D wasn't one of the reasons why we lost

[Coogs]

If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

If only the punt returner hadn't fumbled twice, the 49ers would have beat the G-men. I used to believe that too!

I now understand what the 1 for 13 on third down side of the arguement was saying. It is who Alex is.

[BigCatDaddy]

Sounds like a Flynn/Wilson situation coming up.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I'm not putting all the blame on the run D or Smitty. But you can't tell me that the Run D wasn't one of the reasons why we lost

Exact quote from your post just minutes ago:

If only we had a run D and didn't allow Bell to have 178 yards rushing things would be different.

Not a single mention of Alex missing multiple wide open receivers throughout that game, even though that is what all of the analysts point to as the primary reason for the loss (Chris Simms, Baldinger, etc.)

[penbrook]

Sounds like a Flynn/Wilson situation coming up.

Not even close! Flynn played 2 good games and got offered a contract. Smith is a proven winner and has been to the playoffs. Mahomes has yet to take a single snap in any meaningful game

[penbrook]

If only the punt returner hadn't fumbled twice, the 49ers would have beat the G-men. I used to believe that too!

I now understand what the 1 for 13 on third down side of the arguement was saying. It is who Alex is.

He also drove his team down the field and hit Vernon Davis for a td with about 10 seconds left when it was fourth down. The biggest pair of balls I have seen from Smith

[penbrook]

Exact quote from your post just minutes ago:



Not a single mention of Alex missing multiple wide open receivers throughout that game, even though that is what all of the analysts point to as the primary reason for the loss (Chris Simms, Baldinger, etc.)

You could also point to Fishers crucial hold on the two point try on why we loss. It was a bundle of things that happened

[pugsnotdrugs19]

He also drove his team down the field and hit Vernon Davis for a td with about 10 seconds left when it was fourth down. The biggest pair of balls I have seen from Smith

You've went full Tiger. Never go full Tiger.

[Reerun_KC]

Bout time for the barrage of Smith gifs from the playoff gaffe...

[BigCatDaddy]

Not even close! Flynn played 2 good games and got offered a contract. Smith is a proven winner and has been to the playoffs. Mahomes has yet to take a single snap in any meaningful game

So you dont want to win a SB?

[Coogs]

He also drove his team down the field and hit Vernon Davis for a td with about 10 seconds left when it was fourth down. The biggest pair of balls I have seen from Smith
Don't think so.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201201220sfo.htm

[penbrook]

So you dont want to win a SB?

Who even says Mahomes will win a super bowl?

[BigCatDaddy]

Who even says Mahomes will win a super bowl?

All reports from camp say he is the most talented QB there.

[penbrook]

All reports from camp say he is the most talented QB there.

Really because Terez, Sweeney and BJ say otherwise.

[Coogs]

Who even says Mahomes will win a super bowl?
He may not. But his odds are much better as of right now. Alex is on his last shot. Mahomes could have 15 or so chances ahead of him.

[BigCatDaddy]

Really because Terez, Sweeney and BJ say otherwise.

Link?

[Discuss Thrower]

If only the punt returner hadn't fumbled twice, the 49ers would have beat the G-men. I used to believe that too!

I now understand what the 1 for 13 on third down side of the arguement was saying. It is who Alex is.

40% of 49er drives ending after three plays and a punt.

Nope. Totally Kyle Williams' fault.

[The Franchise]

Don't think so.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201201220sfo.htm

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[penbrook]

The one thing Smith does well is he able to read defenses and make pre snap adjustments. Mahomes so far who knows but he needs work.

[The Franchise]

The one thing Smith does well is he able to read defenses and make pre snap adjustments. Mahomes so far who knows but he needs work.

ROFL

[RunKC]

This is the most disappointing year ever for the AFC. It's almost a foregone conclusion that the Patriots make the SB again unless Brady gets hurt.

Tannehill is done and the rest of the division dusks so that's 6 wins alone. Brady never losses at home so that's 6 games. They have their best offense ever IMO.

Think about this. Brady has made the SB in 46% of his years starting healthy for the Pats. There's a better chance that Tom Brady makes the SB than Steph Curry has making a 3 point shot.

[Reerun_KC]

Don't think so.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201201220sfo.htm

But it's true!!! Best chance ever!

[Reerun_KC]

The one thing Smith does well is he able to read defenses and make pre snap adjustments. Mahomes so far who knows but he needs work.

ROFL

[ModSocks]

Really because Terez, Sweeney and BJ say otherwise.

No they didn't. They said Alex is having the best camp. Which is to be expected considering the inexperience of the other 3 QB's on the roster.

[DaneMcCloud]

40% of 49er drives ending after three plays and a punt.

Nope. Totally Kyle Williams' fault.

Against the best defense in the NFL.

The 49ers scored as many points as the New England Patriots did in the Super Bowl vs. the Giants.

Williams fumbled twice, the final time in Giants territory, so yeah.

[penbrook]

This is the most disappointing year ever for the AFC. It's almost a foregone conclusion that the Patriots make the SB again unless Brady gets hurt.

Tannehill is done and the rest of the division dusks so that's 6 wins alone. Brady never losses at home so that's 6 games. They have their best offense ever IMO.

Think about this. Brady has made the SB in 46% of his years starting healthy for the Pats. There's a better chance that Tom Brady makes the SB than Steph Curry has making a 3 point shot.

All Russell Westbrook FG % is 43%. So just think Brady has a higher chance of making the super bowl than Westbrook does making a shot period

[DaneMcCloud]

No they didn't. They said Alex is having the best camp. Which is to be expected considering the inexperience of the other 3 QB's on the roster.

Terez was visibly pissed off when someone asked if the Chiefs trade Smith to the Dolphins in their Facebook Live chat yesterday.

He was so steamed that he said to Vahe and Blair "One of you fellas take this question".

It's stupid. The Chiefs aren't trading Alex Smith this preaseason.

[Reerun_KC]

Terez was visibly pissed off when someone asked if the Chiefs trade Smith to the Dolphins in their Facebook Live chat yesterday.

He was so steamed that he said to Vahe and Blair "One of you fellas take this question".

It's stupid. The Chiefs aren't trading Alex Smith this preaseason.

I doubt they trade him eaither. But its funny as shit to watch the Alex homers menstruation cycles go off the charts at the possibility....

[penbrook]

I doubt they trade him eaither. But its funny as shit to watch the Alex homers menstruation cycles go off the charts at the possibility....

It's not even a slight of possibility

[DaneMcCloud]

I doubt they trade him eaither. But its funny as shit to watch the Alex homers menstruation cycles go off the charts at the possibility....

The Dolphins aren't an Alex Smith away from the Super Bowl, so there's no reason to think they'd give up 1st and 2nd rounders for him, especially since he's under contract for only 2 more seasons and will be 34 next year.

If Cutler doesn't unretire (and I'm better he won't), Osweiler, McCarron or someone else's backup makes more sense than Smith, because he doesn't fit the Gase offense.

Hell, Mike Glennon would be a better and more logical trade target.

[Coogs]

I doubt they trade him either. But if the Dolphins call and offer a 1st... :shrug:

[ModSocks]

I doubt they trade him either. But if the Dolphins call and offer a 1st... :shrug:

Keep dreaming. They're not paying a 1st for a 1 year rental.

[penbrook]

I doubt they trade him either. But if the Dolphins call and offer a 1st... :shrug:

Dolphins have already called Cutler and Jeff Darlington said on NFL Live that he believes Cutler would be a perfect fit because he has worked with Gase before

[penbrook]

Keep dreaming. They're not paying a 1st for a 1 year rental.

He's signed for 2 years

[eDave]

Keep dreaming.

[Coogs]

Keep dreaming. They're not paying a 1st for a 1 year rental.

They were talking about it on the radio,610, just like we are here. This is just not a CP thing.

No one thinks it will happen. Just hypothetical.

[penbrook]

They were talking about it on the radio,610, just like we are here. This is just not a CP thing.

No one thinks it will happen. Just hypothetical.

It's just hypothetical until Nick Athan says otherwise.

[Discuss Thrower]

Against the best defense in the NFL.

The 49ers scored as many points as the New England Patriots did in the Super Bowl vs. the Giants.

Williams fumbled twice, the final time in Giants territory, so yeah.

25th in points allowed, 19th in rushing defense, 29th in pass defense and 8th in takeaways. (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/opp.htm)

12th/16th in DVOA and late-season weighted DVOA respectively. (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2012/final-2011-dvoa-ratings)

I get the argument for saying it's an above average defense at worst, but to say they were the best by most objective measures doesn't follow.

[PAChiefsGuy]

This is the most disappointing year ever for the AFC. It's almost a foregone conclusion that the Patriots make the SB again unless Brady gets hurt.

Tannehill is done and the rest of the division dusks so that's 6 wins alone. Brady never losses at home so that's 6 games. They have their best offense ever IMO.

Think about this. Brady has made the SB in 46% of his years starting healthy for the Pats. There's a better chance that Tom Brady makes the SB than Steph Curry has making a 3 point shot.

He was a great game manager who was clutch for his first three SBs (2001,2003,2004). Look at his stats.

2001 - 63.9 comp %, 2,814 yds, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 86.5 Rate
2003 - 60.9 compl %, 3620 yds, 23 TDs, 12 INTs, 85.9 Rate
2004 - 60.8 compl %, 3692 yds, 28 TDs, 14 INTs, 92.6 Rate

Nothing spectacular there. They won mostly because of their D back then. Now they win mostly because of their O but their D is still very good (#8 in total yds, #1 in league ppg last year giving up just 15.6 ppg).

Pats are more than just Tom Brady. Obviously he is the main reason but there is a lot of reasons for the Pats success. It isn't just him. They went 11-5 with Matt Cassell as their QB not that long ago.

Team game. So it is not a forgone conclusion that they will win. There's a lot that can happen. Maybe their D or Oline sucks this year and if that is the case they won't win again. So you never know.

25th in points allowed, 19th in rushing defense, 29th in pass defense and 8th in takeaways. (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/opp.htm)

12th/16th in DVOA and late-season weigthed DVOA respectively/ (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2012/final-2011-dvoa-ratings)

I get the argument for saying it's an above average defense at worst, but to say they were the best by most objective measures doesn't follow.

Their D, particularly their Dline, was never healthy until the playoffs. Once they were they shut down everyone including offenses led by Matt Ryan, Rodgers and Brady.

[BigCatDaddy]

All Russell Westbrook FG % is 43%. So just think Brady has a higher chance of making the super bowl than Westbrook does making a shot period

I think you stole that tweet from Stephen a Smith. Wrong sport bro

[penbrook]

I think you stole that tweet from Stephen a Smith. Wrong sport bro

I'm comparing the two

[Hammock Parties]

2003 - 60.9 compl %, 3620 yds, 23 TDs, 12 INTs, 85.9 Rate
2004 - 60.8 compl %, 3692 yds, 28 TDs, 14 INTs, 92.6 Rate

Nothing spectacular there.

This is incorrect.

In 2003 Brady was 6th in the league in passing, 10th in TDs and had SEVEN game-winning drives.

In 2004 he was 10th in the league in passing, 6th in TDs, 9th in yards per attempt and 5th in yards per completion.

Those aren't game manager numbers. Those are top ten passing numbers.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

This is incorrect.

In 2003 Brady was 6th in the league in passing, 10th in TDs and had SEVEN game-winning drives.

In 2004 he was 10th in the league in passing, 6th in TDs, 9th in yards per attempt and 5th in yards per completion.

Those aren't game manager numbers. Those are top ten passing numbers.

60% completion and a 2:1 TD ratio is absolute shit compared to what he put up 5 years later.

Move along.

[BigCatDaddy]

Not sure why so many people have a vested interest in a mediocre QB been the best guy on the field

[ModSocks]

He's signed for 2 years

Missed my point.

Tannehill has a $96 Million contract that pays him through 2020.

Like i said, Smith would be a 1 year rental.

[ModSocks]

They were talking about it on the radio,610, just like we are here. This is just not a CP thing.

No one thinks it will happen. Just hypothetical.

It doesn't make a lick of sense for the Dolphins, and he's too valuable for the Chiefs to let him go for any less than a 2nd this season.

Fun to think about? Sure. But not grounded in reality.

[bigjosh]

60% completion and a 2:1 TD ratio is absolute shit compared to what he put up 5 years later.

Move along.

The NFL has changed a lot in the last 15 years buddy.

5000 yards in a season was unheard of just a few years ago. Now there is someone doing it every season. cant compare stats from when they allowed defense to play to stats in 2017.

[Hammock Parties]

60% completion and a 2:1 TD ratio is absolute shit compared to what he put up 5 years later.

Move along.

TOP TEN passing numbers.

Facts, not fiction.

Brady's prolific passing was a huge part of those championship teams in 2003 and 2004.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

TOP TEN passing numbers.

Facts, not fiction.

Brady's prolific passing was a huge part of those championship teams in 2003 and 2004.

Prolific passing? 226 yards a game is prolific??? ROFL

Shut the hell up , Geno.

[Coogs]

It doesn't make a lick of sense for the Dolphins, and he's too valuable for the Chiefs to let him go for any less than a 2nd this season.

Fun to think about? Sure. But not grounded in reality.

I was just listening.

[Hammock Parties]

Prolific passing? 226 yards a game is prolific??? ROFL

Shut the hell up , Geno.

In 2003 and 2004, those were top ten passing numbers.

You apparently have no clue about the rules changes to the passing game that made everything explode in the last 10 years.

[RunKC]

He was a great game manager who was clutch for his first three SBs (2001,2003,2004). Look at his stats.

2001 - 63.9 comp %, 2,814 yds, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 86.5 Rate
2003 - 60.9 compl %, 3620 yds, 23 TDs, 12 INTs, 85.9 Rate
2004 - 60.8 compl %, 3692 yds, 28 TDs, 14 INTs, 92.6 Rate

Nothing spectacular there. They won mostly because of their D back then. Now they win mostly because of their O but their D is still very good (#8 in total yds, #1 in league ppg last year giving up just 15.6 ppg).

Pats are more than just Tom Brady. Obviously he is the main reason but there is a lot of reasons for the Pats success. It isn't just him. They went 11-5 with Matt Cassell as their QB not that long ago.

Team game. So it is not a forgone conclusion that they will win. There's a lot that can happen. Maybe their D or Oline sucks this year and if that is the case they won't win again. So you never know.



Their D, particularly their Dline, was never healthy until the playoffs. Once they were they shut down everyone including offenses led by Matt Ryan, Rodgers and Brady.

Brady from years ago isn't playing today and if he was playing against his older self on a loaded team this year, he'd lose.

[The Franchise]

He was a great game manager who was clutch for his first three SBs (2001,2003,2004). Look at his stats.

2001 - 63.9 comp %, 2,814 yds, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, 86.5 Rate
2003 - 60.9 compl %, 3620 yds, 23 TDs, 12 INTs, 85.9 Rate
2004 - 60.8 compl %, 3692 yds, 28 TDs, 14 INTs, 92.6 Rate

Nothing spectacular there. They won mostly because of their D back then. Now they win mostly because of their O but their D is still very good (#8 in total yds, #1 in league ppg last year giving up just 15.6 ppg).

Pats are more than just Tom Brady. Obviously he is the main reason but there is a lot of reasons for the Pats success. It isn't just him. They went 11-5 with Matt Cassell as their QB not that long ago.

Team game. So it is not a forgone conclusion that they will win. There's a lot that can happen. Maybe their D or Oline sucks this year and if that is the case they won't win again. So you never know.



Their D, particularly their Dline, was never healthy until the playoffs. Once they were they shut down everyone including offenses led by Matt Ryan, Rodgers and Brady.

Funny that Smith has never eclipsed 3600 yards....in his career......ever.

[Hammock Parties]

I mean Brady had to throw for 354 yards and 3 TD to beat the Panthers in the Super Bowl, and the next season he had to put up 24 points without much of a running game to beat Philly, but yeah, those teams were all defense.

[The Franchise]

Or 28 TDs. ROFL

[pugsnotdrugs19]

:facepalm:

The league has changed a ton in the past several years. Everyone's stats have inflated in terms of QB play. Why do you think the sport is as popular as ever?

If Brady was top 10 in those categories, he was clearly a really productive QB at the time.

[The Franchise]

:facepalm:

The league has changed a ton in the past several years. Everyone's stats have inflated in terms of QB play.



Alex Smith missed that memo.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

In 2003 and 2004, those were top ten passing numbers.

You apparently have no clue about the rules changes to the passing game that made everything explode in the last 10 years.

When there was absolute shit going around for quarterbacks in the league.

That's paltry. Look up steve young and see what he was doing the decade prior.

Move along, Geno.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Tom Brady was far better in the second half of his career. End of story.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Tom Brady was far better in the second half of his career. End of story.

Don't all QBs get a little better with age?... I mean if we look around the league, it holds true for almost all of them.

Yet Brady's stats from the early 2000s that you frown upon are still better than Smith at his best. :facepalm:

[Hammock Parties]

When there was absolute shit going around for quarterbacks in the league.
.

Are you brain dead?

Peyton Manning
Daunte Culpepper
Donovan McNabb
Brett Favre
Tom Brady
Trent Green
Drew Brees
Matt Hasselbeck
Ben Roethlisberger
Carson Palmer

There was a LOT of QB talent in the league back then. When former Super Bowl QBs like Drew Bledsoe were the mediocre QBs of the day you know it was more than fine.

You're just digging some idiotic hole deeper for god knows what reason.

Why tear down Brady's top ten passing seasons? What's the point?

[SAUTO]

I thought this was the fucking training camp thread.

[Hammock Parties]

I thought this was the fucking training camp thread.

You can blame PAChiefsGuy.

[eDave]

You can blame PAChiefsGuy.

You are all acting like god damned children. This thread has gone to shit and it all of ya'll's fault.

[Reerun_KC]

You are all acting like god damned children. This thread has gone to shit and it all of ya'll's fault.

Hurtful

[PAChiefsGuy]

Back on topic

Training camp is hard for me to get excited about because if one player looks good it means in a sense another one of our players is looking bad.

I am glad to hear Mahomes, DJ, Alex Smith and Tyreek Hill are all doing well. Hope they keep it up. I'd like to hear more about Beenie Logan but I understand it's probably hard for dlineman to show much in training camp.

Ahhhh when does regular season start again?

[New World Order]

Back on topic

Training camp is hard for me to get excited about because if one player looks good it means in a sense another one of our players is looking bad.

I am glad to hear Mahomes, DJ, Alex Smith and Tyreek Hill are all doing well. Hope they keep it up. I'd like to hear more about Beenie Logan but I understand it's probably hard for dlineman to show much in training camp.

Ahhhh when does regular season start again?


Everyone is anticipating preseason to see our future football savior, Mahomes.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Everyone is anticipating preseason to see Mahomes.

That's great but I'm excited to see everyone including Alex Smith and our defense. Not just Mahomes.

[eDave]

That's great but I'm excited to see everyone including Alex Smith and our defense. Not just Mahomes.


Well then watch that.

[mdchiefsfan]

Well then watch that.

LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

Well then watch that.

ROFL

[Reerun_KC]

Back on topic

Training camp is hard for me to get excited about because if one player looks good it means in a sense another one of our players is looking bad.

I am glad to hear Mahomes, DJ, Alex Smith and Tyreek Hill are all doing well. Hope they keep it up. I'd like to hear more about Beenie Logan but I understand it's probably hard for dlineman to show much in training camp.

Ahhhh when does regular season start again?

I'm looking forward to more training camp and pre season games.... Dreading the regular season and so ready for 2018.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Well then watch that.

I plan to. You got a problem with that?

[Reerun_KC]

I plan to. You got a problem with that?

I doubt many give a shit if you sit and watch paint dry to be honest...