Chiefs Herm Edwards - Page 3

**luv** · 12:15 AM

Herm Edwards was born to an African American father and a German mother on April 27, 1954. While I'm sure he had a glorious childhood, let's fast forward to his football career.

During college, he played for the Univerity of California, Monterey Peninsula Junior College, back to the University of California, and then San Diego State for his senior year.

During his years playing in the NFL, 1977-1986 to be precise, he had 33 career interceptions as a cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles, where he never missed a game. One of these interceptions happened on November 19, 1978 against the New York Giants. Instead of taking a knee, NYG quarterback, Joe Pisarcik, fumbled the ball when attempting to hand it off in the last seconds of the game. Herm scooped up the ball and returned it for a touchdown. The Eagles won the game, 19-17. Philadelphia refers to this as The Miracle at the Meadowlands, whereas New York refers to it as The Fumble.

Before announcing his retirement as a player, Herm playing briefly for the then Los Angeles Rams and Atlanta Falcons.

He began his career in coaching as the defensive assistant coach at San Jose State University from 1987 to 1989.

From 1990 to 1995, Herm served as an NFL scout and defensive backs coach for the Kansas City Chiefs before going on to work underneath Tony Dungy in Tampa Bay as the defensive backs coach and assistant head coach until 2000. This is when he decided to try his hand in being the head coach for the New York Jets.

During his tenure as head coach for the Jets, Herm had an overall record of 39-41, including a 2-3 playoff record and going 5-15 during his last 20 games. After a controversial move made in 2006, he went back to the Kansas City Chiefs.

This time in Kansas City, Herm is playing the role of head coach. In his first year, he led the team to a 9-7 season and a berth into the postseason, where they lost to the Indianapolis Colts in the Wild Card game. Last year, his team won a dismal 4 games. So far for this year, the Chiefs are off to an 0-2 start. The organization has not won a season opener under Herm Edwards. In fact, the last time the Chiefs did win a season opener, they did so against the New York Jets while Herm was still there.

Overall, Herm has a regular season winning percentage of .456 with a post season record of .333. How does this compare to his time back in Kansas City? In the last 35 games, including one postseason, the Chiefs have a winning percentage of .382 and .000.

Why would the Chiefs give up a fourth round draft pick for a coach who hasn't won half of his games? Maybe some of you expert fans can answer that one for me.

Having worked in production, if my productivity rate was under 50%, I would no longer have a job. Maybe he has good quality? In this business, your productivity rate is based highly upon your quality of work. In other words, under 50% as well. You're asking about customer service? Well, I don't think there's any room for doubt on that, either.

I had started to wonder how Herm was able to keep his job before deciding to dig up a few facts. Now, I'm wondering why he was hired to begin with. Perhaps Carl Peterson believes Herm can pull out another miracle 30 years later. After all, "you play to win the game", right?

CoMoChief · 09-18-2008, 05:53 PM

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**Rain Man** · 09-18-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Herm Edwards is the reason teams now do the kneel down at the end of games.

He's also the reason that our opponents do the kneel down at the end of games.

ChiefsCountry · 09-18-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1okie

ChiefsCountry,
Just saw your sig.... do you really think Bradford will make a quality NFL qb, or are you being fecetious? Or will he go the way of Huepel and White?

Bradford is the best QB prospect in the country. Way different than Huepel and White. He has the arm, talent, smarts to be a stud in the NFL. Also he is a redshirt sophomore which means he is eligable for the draft this year if he wants.

**luv** · 09-18-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

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chiefs1okie · 09-18-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bradford is the best QB prospect in the country. Way different than Huepel and White. He has the arm, talent, smarts to be a stud in the NFL. Also he is a redshirt sophomore which means he is eligable for the draft this year if he wants.

I forgot about that, you are right. He did redshirt.The whole Rhett Bomar fiasco is what gave Bradford the opportunity to start and he hasn't given anyone any chance to take his job. What I really like about watching him play is that he makes VERY FEW mental errors, and virtually no mistakes from trying to force something that isn't there. As you said he is a very smart quarterback, and I agree that he will be very successfull in the pros.

**Bearcat** · 09-18-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I figured I'd get come "constructive" criticism.

It reads like a Wikipedia article.... that's really not a criticism or compliment; I guess it depends on your intent. If your intent is to give a history and your two cents, then I'd say it's well done. If your intent is to let the world know how you feel and back it up with facts, I'd concentrate a little more on the opinion part.

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Originally Posted by luv

Overall, Herm has a regular season winning percentage of .456 with a post season record of .333.

Play to have a chance to win on the last possession -- 50/50 ball as I call it -- and end up with a regular season record around .500 and a much worse playoff record... How... expected.

Why do people think he can win more than a playoff game or two in a given season?

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-18-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson

If you were as big of an idiot as Carl Peterson with such a lousy rate of success who has been granted amnesty due to absentee upper management would you want to bring in someone better than you?

Carl specifically wanted Herm for the same reason millionaires don't socialize with factory workers or why super models don't go out with farmers. People tend to stick with their own kind.

In this case a bunch of never has beens and never will bees who feel comfortable in their own mediocrity gather at One Arrowhead Drive where an absent boss really doesn't care what happens.

The lunatics (mediocrity) are running the asylum (arrowhead).

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-18-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

Yes, I wrote this. Trying to get back into what I used to love doing most, which is writing. I figured this would be the best place to try this type of thing out. I figured I'd get come "constructive" criticism.

Good read. Thanks for sharing.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-18-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

Methinks tonight will be spent doing a little research on Mr Peterson.

Carl Peterson sucks the penis. What more needs to be said?

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-18-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1okie

ChiefsCountry,
Just saw your sig.... do you really think Bradford will make a quality NFL qb, or are you being fecetious? Or will he go the way of Huepel and White?

I think Bradford has all the tools. Have you seen him play? Great footwork. Flawless delivery. I'm not an OU fan, BTW.

**luv** · 09-18-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

It reads like a Wikipedia article.... that's really not a criticism or compliment; I guess it depends on your intent. If your intent is to give a history and your two cents, then I'd say it's well done. If your intent is to let the world know how you feel and back it up with facts, I'd concentrate a little more on the opinion part.

I think I went a little too far back on the history/bio. I should have just started with his coaching carrer, and then found a way to tie in the Miracle at the Meadowlands.

09-17-2008, 11:53 PM
luv You think you can get by this? Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $-1250000	Herm Edwards Herm Edwards was born to an African American father and a German mother on April 27, 1954. While I'm sure he had a glorious childhood, let's fast forward to his football career. During college, he played for the Univerity of California, Monterey Peninsula Junior College, back to the University of California, and then San Diego State for his senior year. During his years playing in the NFL, 1977-1986 to be precise, he had 33 career interceptions as a cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles, where he never missed a game. One of these interceptions happened on November 19, 1978 against the New York Giants. Instead of taking a knee, NYG quarterback, Joe Pisarcik, fumbled the ball when attempting to hand it off in the last seconds of the game. Herm scooped up the ball and returned it for a touchdown. The Eagles won the game, 19-17. Philadelphia refers to this as The Miracle at the Meadowlands, whereas New York refers to it as The Fumble. Before announcing his retirement as a player, Herm playing briefly for the then Los Angeles Rams and Atlanta Falcons. He began his career in coaching as the defensive assistant coach at San Jose State University from 1987 to 1989. From 1990 to 1995, Herm served as an NFL scout and defensive backs coach for the Kansas City Chiefs before going on to work underneath Tony Dungy in Tampa Bay as the defensive backs coach and assistant head coach until 2000. This is when he decided to try his hand in being the head coach for the New York Jets. During his tenure as head coach for the Jets, Herm had an overall record of 39-41, including a 2-3 playoff record and going 5-15 during his last 20 games. After a controversial move made in 2006, he went back to the Kansas City Chiefs. This time in Kansas City, Herm is playing the role of head coach. In his first year, he led the team to a 9-7 season and a berth into the postseason, where they lost to the Indianapolis Colts in the Wild Card game. Last year, his team won a dismal 4 games. So far for this year, the Chiefs are off to an 0-2 start. The organization has not won a season opener under Herm Edwards. In fact, the last time the Chiefs did win a season opener, they did so against the New York Jets while Herm was still there. Overall, Herm has a regular season winning percentage of .456 with a post season record of .333. How does this compare to his time back in Kansas City? In the last 35 games, including one postseason, the Chiefs have a winning percentage of .382 and .000. Why would the Chiefs give up a fourth round draft pick for a coach who hasn't won half of his games? Maybe some of you expert fans can answer that one for me. Having worked in production, if my productivity rate was under 50%, I would no longer have a job. Maybe he has good quality? In this business, your productivity rate is based highly upon your quality of work. In other words, under 50% as well. You're asking about customer service? Well, I don't think there's any room for doubt on that, either. I had started to wonder how Herm was able to keep his job before deciding to dig up a few facts. Now, I'm wondering why he was hired to begin with. Perhaps Carl Peterson believes Herm can pull out another miracle 30 years later. After all, "you play to win the game", right? Last edited by luv; 09-18-2008 at 12:15 AM.. Reason: spelling
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