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**Saulbadguy** · 11-10-2008, 11:08 PM

I read a headline today saying the KC Star had a bunch of layoffs - and was wondering how the industry may be changing. I realize this poll has been done before, but how many of you still receive the newspaper every day, or just Sunday?

**Iowanian** · 11-11-2008, 01:08 PM

I buy the local rag, but its only a weekly.

badgirl · 11-11-2008, 01:37 PM

I try to avoid all newspaper and the tv news, there are too much bad shit in the world. Its kinda like if you don't see it , its not happening.

Raiderhater58 · 11-11-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kc rush

They probably know each other. My dad has worked nights there for 40+ years. He works in the are where the paper comes off of the presses and is assembled and loaded on the trucks to go to the distribution areas for deliver.

I work for The Star as well I probably know your dad. Ive been there for 21 years.

**HemiEd** · 11-11-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

For me, no. But google really has a foothold on it.

We spend about $1300 a month with google.

11-11-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

The newspaper I work for is shutting down after Saturday's issue

I'm trying not to lose my mind.

Sounds like there might be an angel investor out there. I hope it plays out in your favor.

11-11-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

We spend about $1300 a month with google.

Which seems like a lot of money, right? I'll bet you're their 2,001,023rd most lucrative client.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-11-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by badgirl

I try to avoid all newspaper and the tv news, there are too much bad shit in the world. Its kinda like if you don't see it , its not happening.

But don't you work in a hospital and see bad shit every day? Like gruesome bad shit?

ChiefsCountry · 11-11-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Which seems like a lot of money, right?

Compare that to a bunch of newspaper or magazine ads.

**Nzoner** · 11-11-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gochasedude

St. Joseph's Newspress is like that. There is an online version of the paper but it's a pay basis. The Bradley's were pretty smart to get that started.

I noticed they had a flier last week for 1/2 price subscriptions,up to 24 months and only if paid in advance.

Personally I don't mind seeing daily papers hurting as I'm hoping it drives more advertising business my way since we still mail to every residential mailbox.

kc rush · 11-11-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Which seems like a lot of money, right? I'll bet you're their 2,001,023rd most lucrative client.

No kidding. I've worked with clients who have spent that in a day on Google and they aren't even big consumer clients.

Boyceofsummer · 11-11-2008, 08:21 PM

We lost our Kansas City Star circulation recently in Salina. Shortly thereafter they raised the price. I still work into the city and can get the Star. I want it and need it! I still pay for the local rag. After this thread I'm not bitching any more. Please support your local rag!

kc rush · 12-15-2008, 09:56 AM

Detroit will stop delivery for their newspapers most days of the week.

Wow.

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...jExMTIyWj.html

Detroit Media Partnership L.P., which operates the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, is expected to announce next week that it will cease home delivery of the papers' print editions on most days of the week, according to people familiar with the company's thinking.

Detroit Media has not made a final decision, these people said. But the leading scenario set to be unveiled Tuesday calls for the Free Press, the 20th largest U.S. newspaper by weekday circulation, and the News to end home delivery on all but the most lucrative days -- Thursday, Friday and Sunday. On the other days, the company would sell single copies of abbreviated print editions at newsstands and direct readers to the papers' expanded digital editions.

The Free Press, owned by Gannett Co., and the News, owned by MediaNews Group, are operated by Detroit Media under a so-called joint operating agreement.

The Free Press and the News would be the first dailies in a major metropolitan market to curtail home delivery and drastically scale back their print editions. Other newspapers are contemplating similar moves in response to the erosion of advertising and the rising costs of printing and delivery. In October the Christian Science Monitor said it will stop printing a daily newspaper in April and move instead to an online version with a weekly print product.

Newspaper groups have taken drastic steps lately to align costs with shrinking revenue, including massive staff cuts and efforts to consolidate functions through partnerships like the JOA in Detroit. As many of those measures have proved insufficient, publishers have taken a harder look at shifting away from print or abandoning it altogether to save on printing and distribution.

Even by industry standards, the Detroit papers have been hit particularly hard, a result of the troubled auto industry's impact on Michigan's economy. Dave Hunke, Detroit Media's chief executive, said in October, "It's time for us to look at some radical departures from our business model."

Weekday circulation has declined 15% at the Free Press and 22% at the News over the past five years, according to the Audit Bureau of Circulations. As of September, the Free Press had a weekday circulation of 298,243, including 200,110 home and mail subscribers. The comparable numbers at the News were 178,280 and 97,483.

To address the mounting problems, Detroit Media has been working with IDEO Inc., a design firm based in Palo Alto, Calif., for the past six months to help reinvent the papers. The results of their work are scheduled to be unveiled to employees on Tuesday.

The changes are likely to result in significant job cuts. Gannett, which owns 85 daily newspapers, recently said it was eliminating 2,000 positions as part of a 10% staff reduction. Two of its papers, USA Today and the Free Press, were not part of those reductions.

"The Detroit Media Partnership is looking at everything right now just like everyone else in the country," said Leland K. Bassett, a spokesman.

Because the Detroit papers will continue to publish daily electronic versions, the cuts are expected to come mostly, if not entirely, from outside the newsroom, according to people close to the situation.

Curtailing home delivery would bring the Detroit papers much needed savings, but would also carry considerable risk. At a time when newspapers are fighting to retain readers, steering those readers online instead of delivering their paper to the door could cause them to lose the habit of reading a paper daily.

Rumors about Detroit Media's plans have surfaced in recent days on the "Gannett Blog" run by former USA Today reporter Jim Hopkins.

Mark M · 12-15-2008, 10:17 AM

When newspapers failed to adapt to online classified ads, they were doomed.

That and the 24/7 television/online news cycle is making it hard for them to keep up, both in terms of coverage and income.

What may be able to save them is going hyper-local -- an idea I saw somewhere (can't remember where, sadly) that has saved a few smaller papers.

Basically, instead of trying to be the a mini version of the New York Times or USA Today (which I call "McPaper" since it does a lot of things, but few of them all that well), the local dailies need to just kick ass at covering their own area on every level.

If they do an amazing job of blanket coverage on the local level, they may manage to survive.

But if they try to keep things running the way they used to, there's no chance. They just can't keep up.

MM
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12-15-2008, 09:56 AM	#117
kc rush Blah Blah Blah Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In front of the computer. Casino cash: $1979559	Detroit will stop delivery for their newspapers most days of the week. Wow. http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...jExMTIyWj.html Detroit Media Partnership L.P., which operates the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, is expected to announce next week that it will cease home delivery of the papers' print editions on most days of the week, according to people familiar with the company's thinking. Detroit Media has not made a final decision, these people said. But the leading scenario set to be unveiled Tuesday calls for the Free Press, the 20th largest U.S. newspaper by weekday circulation, and the News to end home delivery on all but the most lucrative days -- Thursday, Friday and Sunday. On the other days, the company would sell single copies of abbreviated print editions at newsstands and direct readers to the papers' expanded digital editions. The Free Press, owned by Gannett Co., and the News, owned by MediaNews Group, are operated by Detroit Media under a so-called joint operating agreement. The Free Press and the News would be the first dailies in a major metropolitan market to curtail home delivery and drastically scale back their print editions. Other newspapers are contemplating similar moves in response to the erosion of advertising and the rising costs of printing and delivery. In October the Christian Science Monitor said it will stop printing a daily newspaper in April and move instead to an online version with a weekly print product. Newspaper groups have taken drastic steps lately to align costs with shrinking revenue, including massive staff cuts and efforts to consolidate functions through partnerships like the JOA in Detroit. As many of those measures have proved insufficient, publishers have taken a harder look at shifting away from print or abandoning it altogether to save on printing and distribution. Even by industry standards, the Detroit papers have been hit particularly hard, a result of the troubled auto industry's impact on Michigan's economy. Dave Hunke, Detroit Media's chief executive, said in October, "It's time for us to look at some radical departures from our business model." Weekday circulation has declined 15% at the Free Press and 22% at the News over the past five years, according to the Audit Bureau of Circulations. As of September, the Free Press had a weekday circulation of 298,243, including 200,110 home and mail subscribers. The comparable numbers at the News were 178,280 and 97,483. To address the mounting problems, Detroit Media has been working with IDEO Inc., a design firm based in Palo Alto, Calif., for the past six months to help reinvent the papers. The results of their work are scheduled to be unveiled to employees on Tuesday. The changes are likely to result in significant job cuts. Gannett, which owns 85 daily newspapers, recently said it was eliminating 2,000 positions as part of a 10% staff reduction. Two of its papers, USA Today and the Free Press, were not part of those reductions. "The Detroit Media Partnership is looking at everything right now just like everyone else in the country," said Leland K. Bassett, a spokesman. Because the Detroit papers will continue to publish daily electronic versions, the cuts are expected to come mostly, if not entirely, from outside the newsroom, according to people close to the situation. Curtailing home delivery would bring the Detroit papers much needed savings, but would also carry considerable risk. At a time when newspapers are fighting to retain readers, steering those readers online instead of delivering their paper to the door could cause them to lose the habit of reading a paper daily. Rumors about Detroit Media's plans have surfaced in recent days on the "Gannett Blog" run by former USA Today reporter Jim Hopkins.
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12-15-2008, 10:17 AM	#118
Mark M What time is it? Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: You tell me ... Casino cash: $9884900	Not sure if this has been posted yet, but ... When newspapers failed to adapt to online classified ads, they were doomed. That and the 24/7 television/online news cycle is making it hard for them to keep up, both in terms of coverage and income. What may be able to save them is going hyper-local -- an idea I saw somewhere (can't remember where, sadly) that has saved a few smaller papers. Basically, instead of trying to be the a mini version of the New York Times or USA Today (which I call "McPaper" since it does a lot of things, but few of them all that well), the local dailies need to just kick ass at covering their own area on every level. If they do an amazing job of blanket coverage on the local level, they may manage to survive. But if they try to keep things running the way they used to, there's no chance. They just can't keep up. MM ~~ __________________ ChiefsPlanet -- n. The place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
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